Schools closed until March/April? (part 4) **Mod warning in OP 22/01**

Bananaleaf

Str8outtaWuhan wrote: »

Which month?

I'm pretty sure he meant this month. Earlier in the interview he referenced talks that would be taking place this Monday and Tuesday

Ninthlife

alroley wrote: »

The kids will be delighted to lose their summer

If the DES and schools were innovative they cpuld mske the time alot more laid back and 'fun' during those weeks.

Im mot saying cancel all the summer break but reduce it to 4/5 weeks

Str8outtaWuhan

Ninthlife wrote: »

If schools close til after St Patricks Day Im hoping they extend the school year and lessen the summer holiday period.

The whole school calender being planned around harvesting times is so out of touch.

No need for 8/10 week break in the summer. Use this time to revamp how thr school year is organised and run

I lived for my summer holidays as a kid, wtf would you deny kids that? They will spend the majority of their lives working 9-5 for 5 weeks off a year, If they doesn't suit parents to have their kids off during the summer between the ages of 5-18 there is a simple solution, DON'T have kids!!!

alroley

Ninthlife wrote: »

If the DES and schools were innovative they cpuld mske the time alot more laid back and 'fun' during those weeks.

Im mot saying cancel all the summer break but reduce it to 4/5 weeks

State-run summer camp you're looking for.

Best of luck.

Ninthlife

political analyst wrote: »

And punish pupils and teachers for something that is beyond their control?! Good luck with that! :rolleyes:

How is it punishment?

jimmytwotimes 2013

Ninthlife wrote: »

If the DES and schools were innovative they cpuld mske the time alot more laid back and 'fun' during those weeks.

Im mot saying cancel all the summer break but reduce it to 4/5 weeks

Pay rises all round, not going to happen

Str8outtaWuhan

Bananaleaf wrote: »

I'm pretty sure he meant this month. Earlier in the interview he referenced talks that would be taking place this Monday and Tuesday

Expect a holding pattern statement, they won't commit to one course of action this early in the game.

alroley

Ninthlife wrote: »

How is it punishment?

I'm going to propose removing holidays from everyone that worked from home over the past year. How is that punishment?

political analyst

Ninthlife wrote: »

How is it punishment?

Going to school in July?! This isn't England!

joebloggs32

alroley wrote: »

The kids will be delighted to lose their summer

And the whole tourism industry would be delighted also to lose the summer as staycations dry up while kids are in school.

titan18

Str8outtaWuhan wrote: »

I'm assuming with only one company doing Mocks cheating will be rife, surely easier to just let students submit top 5 CAO choices, Do a simple matric similar to HPAT over the summer and they get a choice based on that. 3rd level have an infinite capacity to accept students now that they can go on line and 3rd level practicals can be staggered.

Not really, as no chance (I hope) that this lockdown stuff is lasting 3/4 years so colleges can't really do that infinite capacity for all those years.

Locotastic

Murple wrote: »

I’m hoping he said after March 17th as a ‘let’s scare them now and then get loads of praise when we get it done before then’.

Did he actually say schools won't be open until after 17th March?

Bananaleaf

khalessi wrote: »

Well to emphasise the seriousness of all this.



I am taking down the Christmas tree

The Weekend magazine in the Irish Times has jumped straight to advertising their 2022 city breaks.

I have literally no idea where my passport is right now and it doesn't even matter

brookers

political analyst wrote: »

And punish pupils and teachers for something that is beyond their control?! Good luck with that! :rolleyes:

Why would you cancel holidays, im worn out already and we have done just two weeks, im actually counting the days till 24th June to be free of school.

Ninthlife

alroley wrote: »

State-run summer camp you're looking for.

Best of luck.

No not looking for that either

You think kids are benefitting from the thrown together 'online teaching'

Its no ones fault schools are closed but alot of kids education is going to suffer as a result of all this and if reducing the time they spent off school was to offset some of this, is this not the right thing to do?

alroley

Locotastic wrote: »

Did he actually say schools won't be open until after 17th March?

No, he said won't fully open.

CapriciousOne

Locotastic wrote: »

Did he actually say schools won't be open until after 17th March?

Not ALL schools

https://www.rte.ie/news/education/2021/0123/1191602-coronavirus-schools/

St.Spodo

Ninthlife wrote: »

If the DES and schools were innovative they cpuld mske the time alot more laid back and 'fun' during those weeks.

Im mot saying cancel all the summer break but reduce it to 4/5 weeks

The kids can have laid back fun in their own time. God knows, they will need it.

Bananaleaf

Locotastic wrote: »

Did he actually say schools won't be open until after 17th March?

His exact phrase that the full million wouldn't be back by Paddy's Day. There'd be no "big bang" return is the phrase I believe he used

alroley

Ninthlife wrote: »

No not looking for that either

You think kids are benefitting from the thrown together 'online teaching'

Its no ones fault schools are closed but alot of kids education is going to suffer as a result of all this and if reducing the time they spent off school was to offset some of this, is this not the right thing to do?

No. It's not.

Kids can catch up.

I've taught a child that missed two entire years of school due to refusing to go. She is at the same level as her peers now.

brookers

Ninthlife wrote: »

No not looking for that either

You think kids are benefitting from the thrown together 'online teaching'

Its no ones fault schools are closed but alot of kids education is going to suffer as a result of all this and if reducing the time they spent off school was to offset some of this, is this not the right thing to do?

School not that important, once you know how to read you can do anything you want to do in life......and write too and be able to talk.

Ninthlife

alroley wrote: »

No. It's not.

Kids can catch up.

I've taught a child that missed two entire years of school due to refusing to go. She is at the same level as her peers now.

Some kids MAY catch up

C__MC

I would say 3rd and 6th years from 22nd then perhaps before gradually easing other years back in I'm guessing

alroley

C__MC wrote: »

I would say 3rd and 6th years from 22nd then perhaps before gradually easing other years back in I'm guessing

Not a chance is the junior cert happening :pac:

Highly doubt the leaving cert will either.

Ninthlife

brookers wrote: »

School not that important, once you know how to read you can do anything you want to do in life......and write too and be able to talk.

Are you a teacher?

C__MC

Given that its going to the 17th, alot of students will be burned out via online I'm guessing

Mrsmum

I think the problem is that they know with this new variant, you can open up grand when the numbers allow but straigh away the numbers will increase at speed again.

jimmytwotimes 2013

Mrsmum wrote: »

I think the problem is that they know with this new variant, you can open up grand when the numbers allow but straigh away the numbers will increase at speed again.

Think this is now the problem.

It'll run thro the place if it's as infectious as they believe

the kelt

Parent of kids with additional needs here����*♀️. I especially need people who aren't parents of kids with additional needs to please listen to what I have to say. .

So this month our family's (and others like ours) desperate need for additional help and services has been used as a tool to score political points by Norma Foley and her pals. Teachers are not to blame here. They are being asked to risk their health for our children to return to education when really what our children need is consistent occupational, physio and speech therapy and access to psychology services and respite.

We have come to rely on school to make up for the failure of our health service to provide therapy and respite to our children. That's not what school is and that's not the job of teachers and SNAs.
If we are at breaking point because our children can't go to school, well we need to take a moment and appreciate that teachers are filling more than just the role of educators in our children's lives.

This is a stress test. The HSE have always failed our children. Disability services have never been good enough. Respite has never been good enough.

Please don't let them shift blame to the teachers. We've been fighting for services in court for years. This isn't a new problem.

Saw this today on Facebook , thought it was interesting.

In my experience the majority of people realise the real issues such as above but what’s sadder is the nasty little element of society who couldn’t give a rats arse about kids education but will take this opportunity to have a go at teachers and unions and I include many politicians in that boat, in particular those that are meant to be resolving this issue. It says everything that the people in charge think the only thing kids need is schools gate open!

She and her parties have done nothing to help these kids over the years, they’ve done nothing to help all kids since the beginning of this pandemic only bank on schools staying open and numbers down, failing that try to bully and bluster schools into opening whilst shifting the blame everywhere else they can away from them.

jrosen

alroley wrote: »

No. It's not.

Kids can catch up.

I've taught a child that missed two entire years of school due to refusing to go. She is at the same level as her peers now.

I dont think its fair or right to say "kids can catch up" I think SOME kids can catch up but that takes the willingness of the teacher, the willingness of student and parents. The right supports from within the school and the home. Its not just as easy to say kids will catch up.