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People who tested positive, how are you feeling?

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,879 ✭✭✭signostic


    I tested positive on the 29th Dec, was feeling unwell for about 9 days, no symptoms now. Back to exercising since Thursday last,
    I have a dental appointment on Monday next (filling), should i go ahead with it or cancel?
    Edit* appt rescheduled.


  • Registered Users Posts: 576 ✭✭✭Mardyke


    signostic wrote: »
    I tested positive on the 29th Dec, was feeling unwell for about 9 days, no symptoms now. Back to exercising since Thursday last,
    I have a dental appointment on Monday next (filling), should i go ahead with it or cancel?
    Edit* appt rescheduled.

    Did you lose taste?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,204 ✭✭✭✭Goldengirl


    My husband and young daughter had it. Myself and our baby son never got it
    Daughter completely asymptotic and husband had a rash and upset stomach . Now since three months on , he’s beginning to feel like rubbish...with aura migraines and extreme fatigue .
    I’m not sure why I haven’t gotten it , the only thing is I was very ill with the flu and a desperate sinus infection in December 2019.... wondering if i had it back then

    I wonder about this as have heard so many people who have tested negative when their partners conversely test positive .
    Maybe asymptomatic infection beforehand and now immune?


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,781 ✭✭✭Motivator


    I’m not sure why I haven’t gotten it , the only thing is I was very ill with the flu and a desperate sinus infection in December 2019.... wondering if i had it back then

    I had the same thing in December ‘19. My wife was working in Asia for November and December and came home two weeks before Christmas. It’s possibly just coincidence but I do think otherwise now. I felt rotten Christmas week and just got worse and worse. I got so bad I was taken to hospital with suspected meningitis and was kept in for a day while they ran all the necessary tests. The rules out meningitis early enough but couldn’t figure out what was wrong with me. They eventually put it down to a bad strain of influenza. My cousin is a GP and reckons there’s a good chance I had it. My wife wasn’t sick at all and neither were any family members.

    It’s possible the virus was around Europe and Ireland well before Christmas and the first wave was mild and not as contagious but then what we saw in March and constantly since is the mutation and more serious and deadly strain or strains.

    I wasn’t fully back to myself until probably February of last year. Whatever I had, Covid or no Covid, absolutely floored me to the point where I couldn’t walk 50 yards without totally gassing out. It took a good 5/6 weeks for me to get back to myself. Thankfully I haven’t tested positive for Covid yet and I’ve had probably 5 tests since March all negative thank god.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,649 ✭✭✭✭fits


    If it had been around last December the hospitals would have been overrun. We all saw what happened this year in a matter of weeks *with* restrictions and precautions in place.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,762 ✭✭✭✭Inquitus


    ShineOn7 wrote: »

    Aye I bought one last March, came in very handy when 4 out of the 5 of us here got Covid just after xmas, very good for making sure your breathing and blood oxygenation is up where it should be, would recommend everyone buy one just in case you happen to get infected, I paid 20 euro for mine back then, but there is a fair bit of price gouging now and you can pay multiples of that in a Chemist.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,077 ✭✭✭Away With The Fairies


    Inquitus wrote: »
    Aye I bought one last March, came in very handy when 4 out of the 5 of us here got Covid just after xmas, very good for making sure your breathing and blood oxygenation is up where it should be, would recommend everyone buy one just in case you happen to get infected, I paid 20 euro for mine back then, but there is a fair bit of price gouging now and you can pay multiples of that in a Chemist.

    I have a pulse oximeter. Is there anything else worth having?

    I've been thinking of getting and wearing compression socks. They can help with blood circulation, so I'm hoping it might help with the nasty side of blood clots.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Had a little bit of shortness of breath the last couple of days but I'm a smoker so didn't think covid immediately. Woke up this morning with a much tighter chest, sweats and chills, aches in my chest and back and a bad headache. Also just feel wrecked. Tested today, awaiting results (fairly positive they'll be positive)


  • Registered Users Posts: 2 Lkavers


    I’m 27 with no underlying conditions and tested positive on Thursday after noticing slight symptoms Tuesday night, just a slight sore throat on one side and a hoarse voice. So far I feel mostly fine, sense of taste and smell are gone since Thursday night and I have a slight cough at times but otherwise am mostly grand and so far the rest of my family in the house have shown no major symptoms


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  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Had a little bit of shortness of breath the last couple of days but I'm a smoker so didn't think covid immediately. Woke up this morning with a much tighter chest, sweats and chills, aches in my chest and back and a bad headache. Also just feel wrecked. Tested today, awaiting results (fairly positive they'll be positive)

    Test (PCR) results came back in the early hours - Covid not detected.

    While it’s a relief it kind of raises more questions than it answers! If it’s not Covid do I maybe just have some flu or something? Could it be a false negative perhaps? Did my body just subconsciously want to garner some sympathy with some psychosomatic symptoms ( :P ) I’m a bit puzzled tbh


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 161 ✭✭Jane1012


    Test (PCR) results came back in the early hours - Covid not detected.

    While it’s a relief it kind of raises more questions than it answers! If it’s not Covid do I maybe just have some flu or something? Could it be a false negative perhaps? Did my body just subconsciously want to garner some sympathy with some psychosomatic symptoms ( :P ) I’m a bit puzzled tbh

    Great to hear you were negative.
    Do you mind sharing where you got tested and how long results took?
    I got tested at 11.30 yesterday in the national show centre in Swords.
    Anxiously waiting 🙈


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,781 ✭✭✭Motivator


    fits wrote: »
    If it had been around last December the hospitals would have been overrun. We all saw what happened this year in a matter of weeks *with* restrictions and precautions in place.

    The hospitals were actually overrun in December last year. The winter flu last year was absolutely everywhere and the night I spent in hospital the place was like a war zone. People on trolleys everywhere. Obviously nowhere near the level of shít that we’re in now but at the same time, what we saw in March wasn’t as bad as what we’re seeing now so it’s possible December last year was the first wave and it has since mutated and just gotten worse and worse as the months have gone by.

    I don’t know though that’s the thing and I’m only presuming but if I was a betting man I’d have money on it that it was here last Christmas and the hospitals just didn’t know it.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,170 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    While it’s a relief it kind of raises more questions than it answers! If it’s not Covid do I maybe just have some flu or something? Could it be a false negative perhaps? Did my body just subconsciously want to garner some sympathy with some psychosomatic symptoms ( :P ) I’m a bit puzzled tbh
    Well government advice has been that there are no other viruses in circulation so if you have symptoms it's likely Covid. However I suspect that's them being wise about it, as if they said there may be other bugs about too many people would ignore symptoms and spread covid and as we've all seen throughout this the idiot percentage in the population can be high.

    Other viruses don't magically go away. In normal flu seasons there are also common colds and winter vomiting bugs and pneumonia and the like going around. If you look at the testing and the percentage of those who are positive for covid it's a minority of people and recently because of the numbers and backlog many were only put forward for testing if they were symptomatic. So either a load of people are imagining things(some will) or the test is decidedly crap(unlikely at this stage) or there are other viruses around(more likely). Probably at a lower level than previous years what with the masks, hand washing and social distancing.

    A friend of mine's family got some sort of infection just before christmas. Head cold with the squits kinda thing. They were all tested because all of them were symptomatic(kids and parents) and all returned negatives for covid. One was tested twice. Though fair dues to them they isolated as if they had it and didn't go to other households or have anyone come to them.

    Rejoice in the awareness of feeling stupid, for that’s how you end up learning new things. If you’re not aware you’re stupid, you probably are.



  • Registered Users Posts: 11,506 ✭✭✭✭Xenji


    My other half tested positive last week after a large outbreak in a public office, so far besides a mild headache and a total loss of taste and smell she has not been too bad.

    I would of been in close contact with her right up till the day she was tested as they arranged for the whole office to be tested in the afternoon only after making them aware of the need that morning.

    So 4 days after her positive result I was tested as well but it came back negative, I was fully convinced I would be positive but I had heard plenty of stories of people in the same household and even sharing the same bed not getting it.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 76 ✭✭Khumatmibro


    Roughly a week since developing symptoms and I'm feeling a lot better. Thankfully I didn't really get a bad dose and bar some shortness of breath around day 2-3 it just felt like a moderate flu.

    In saying that the waistline probably took a bit of a hit from living off McDonald's drive through for the past week lol.


  • Moderators, Regional South Moderators Posts: 5,842 Mod ✭✭✭✭Quackster


    Roughly a week since developing symptoms and I'm feeling a lot better. Thankfully I didn't really get a bad dose and bar some shortness of breath around day 2-3 it just felt like a moderate flu.

    In saying that the waistline probably took a bit of a hit from living off McDonald's drive through for the past week lol.
    Yet you claim in another thread you were in work yesterday.

    You do realise you HAVE to self-isolate until it's been at least ten days since you first developed symptoms..??


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Jane1012 wrote: »
    Great to hear you were negative.
    Do you mind sharing where you got tested and how long results took?
    I got tested at 11.30 yesterday in the national show centre in Swords.
    Anxiously waiting ��

    I got mine done in a drive through one in Leopardstown, had to pay but got results within 13 hours of testing. Wasn't able to secure an initial consultation with my gp until Tuesday evening - if I had had covid my feckin illness would've been half over before I'd even managed to get tested! :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,455 ✭✭✭Beanybabog


    Xenji wrote: »

    So 4 days after her positive result I was tested as well but it came back negative, I was fully convinced I would be positive but I had heard plenty of stories of people in the same household and even sharing the same bed not getting it.

    My husband had it last year and myself and the kids tested negative twice. Someone had visited the week before (before no visitors were allowed) and got it from him, or maybe they gave it to him, and yet I had been sharing a bed with him and didn’t. Unless I was the asymptotic patient zero as he claims!!


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Quackster wrote: »
    Yet you claim in another thread you were in work yesterday.

    You do realise you HAVE to self-isolate until it's been at least ten days since you first developed symptoms..??

    Yup Quackster, lot's of spoofers on this thread.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 161 ✭✭Jane1012


    I got mine done in a drive through one in Leopardstown, had to pay but got results within 13 hours of testing. Wasn't able to secure an initial consultation with my gp until Tuesday evening - if I had had covid my feckin illness would've been half over before I'd even managed to get tested! :pac:

    That’s a great turnaround time.

    Just updating for anyone coming here to ask the same question as me - I got tested Saturday at 11:30 and results through Sunday at 15:00 (negative) national show centre swords.

    Also anyone struggling to get an appointment if you have an online doctor with your health insurance they can refer you. I noticed my VHI app updated to say they could do covid referrals for tests


  • Registered Users Posts: 100 ✭✭Laura2021


    Has anyone with underlying conditions or on Immunosuppressants gotten Covid-19?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,747 ✭✭✭Phil.x


    High temp, stiff/strained eyes, lower back pain, loss of smell and taste, all lasted two to three days but 14 days after symptoms I still cannot smell or taste and it sometimes feels like a have something lodged in my throat.


  • Registered Users Posts: 241 ✭✭Queried


    Laura2021 wrote: »
    Has anyone with underlying conditions or on Immunosuppressants gotten Covid-19?

    Hi. Both elderly grandparents got it. One first, then the other about a week after. The first grandparent has diabetes and in late 80s and somehow got through it with minimal symptoms. Is in good form now after 2 weeks. Other is still battling through it and taking it day by day. Hope you're alright, it seems to be very unpredictable.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,550 ✭✭✭ShineOn7


    Xenji wrote: »
    My other half tested positive last week after a large outbreak in a public office


    Do you know if many in the office were asymptomatic?


  • Registered Users Posts: 11,506 ✭✭✭✭Xenji


    ShineOn7 wrote: »
    Do you know if many in the office were asymptomatic?

    There was less than a week between everyone who was not WFH back in after New Years and the whole place getting tested, so there must of been staff who were asymptomatic and others who were not displaying symptoms yet, the nature of the building was always going to make the offices high risk.


  • Registered Users Posts: 448 ✭✭ebayissues


    Having a bit of light headache and feel sore throat coming up over the past week or so but nothing serious. Not the first time it's happened.

    I feel I should get mind at ease by taking covid test


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,818 ✭✭✭micks_address


    ebayissues wrote: »
    Having a bit of light headache and feel sore throat coming up over the past week or so but nothing serious. Not the first time it's happened.

    I feel I should get mind at ease by taking covid test

    no harm to phone your GP for advice. I was similar last week and phoned and got referred for a test. It turned out to be negative. I wasnt very sick and working from home fulltime but was good to put it to bed


  • Registered Users Posts: 378 ✭✭brookers


    Xenji wrote: »
    My other half tested positive last week after a large outbreak in a public office, so far besides a mild headache and a total loss of taste and smell she has not been too bad.

    I would of been in close contact with her right up till the day she was tested as they arranged for the whole office to be tested in the afternoon only after making them aware of the need that morning.

    So 4 days after her positive result I was tested as well but it came back negative, I was fully convinced I would be positive but I had heard plenty of stories of people in the same household and even sharing the same bed not getting it.

    how do the staff feel about that. I work in a public office and we feel mgt dont give a hoot about us, all on top of each other etc, some of the younger staff dont even believe in covid.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,734 ✭✭✭✭TheValeyard


    One year old daughter tested positive. So now we're getting tested.

    Came from creche, one wobbler infected five wobblers.

    Seems grand though, appears to be like a light cold. Hopefully stays that way.

    All eyes on Kursk. Slava Ukraini.



  • Registered Users Posts: 11,506 ✭✭✭✭Xenji


    brookers wrote: »
    how do the staff feel about that. I work in a public office and we feel mgt dont give a hoot about us, all on top of each other etc, some of the younger staff dont even believe in covid.

    Annoyed as you would expect as they can and have worked from home with no issues, my sister works in a different public service and it is night and day between how they are ran, hers has 90% of staff working from home and only one person allowed in any of the offices each day.

    The biggest issue for both were staff coming in before Christmas who were close contacts and not self isolating and others not wanting to get the test and being asymptomatic or worse actually coming in sick and having to be told to go home.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,711 ✭✭✭uli84


    Xenji wrote: »
    My other half tested positive last week after a large outbreak in a public office, so far besides a mild headache and a total loss of taste and smell she has not been too bad.

    I would of been in close contact with her right up till the day she was tested as they arranged for the whole office to be tested in the afternoon only after making them aware of the need that morning.

    So 4 days after her positive result I was tested as well but it came back negative, I was fully convinced I would be positive but I had heard plenty of stories of people in the same household and even sharing the same bed not getting it.

    Puts the whole social distancing in question, no?


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,170 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    uli84 wrote: »
    Puts the whole social distancing in question, no?
    No, because cases quite clearly go down when social distancing measures are in place.

    It does seem that some people appear to be immune to the virus, either because they've already been exposed and cleared it, or because of immunity arising from a previous viral infection in their lives. The latter would explain much, even the variability in symptoms reported.

    The problem remains that a percentage of the population suffer much stronger symptoms which can lead to death or longer term damage that we're still not clear about. This includes younger people.

    Rejoice in the awareness of feeling stupid, for that’s how you end up learning new things. If you’re not aware you’re stupid, you probably are.



  • Registered Users Posts: 11,506 ✭✭✭✭Xenji


    uli84 wrote: »
    Puts the whole social distancing in question, no?

    No social distancing is still needed as I know of a family of four all being infected by a cousin who had just popped in for an hour. He then tested positive after being deemed a close contact of theirs but he was the only person they had met and he was asymptomatic through the whole thing.

    Wibbs has made a very good post above that I would echo as well.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,747 ✭✭✭Phil.x


    Phil.x wrote: »
    High temp, stiff/strained eyes, lower back pain, loss of smell and taste, all lasted two to three days but 14 days after symptoms I still cannot smell or taste and it sometimes feels like a have something lodged in my throat.

    Just a follow up. Phoned the gp today to tell of the loss of smell and taste also the flem I cannot get out. Morale of the story is I'm €96 out of pocket!!, I f'ing knew I should of listened to my inner voice. I'm never ever going to a doctor again as long as I can help it.


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  • Moderators, Regional South Moderators Posts: 5,842 Mod ✭✭✭✭Quackster


    Phil.x wrote: »
    Just a follow up. Phoned the gp today to tell of the loss of smell and taste also the flem I cannot get out. Morale of the story is I'm €96 out of pocket!!, I f'ing knew I should of listened to my inner voice. I'm never ever going to a doctor again as long as I can help it.
    €96 for a private test?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,747 ✭✭✭Phil.x


    Quackster wrote: »
    €96 for a private test?

    No, for a gp phone call€60 and €36 from tablets.
    I had the hse covid test 2 weeks ago.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 656 ✭✭✭ingalway


    Roughly a week since developing symptoms and I'm feeling a lot better. Thankfully I didn't really get a bad dose and bar some shortness of breath around day 2-3 it just felt like a moderate flu.

    In saying that the waistline probably took a bit of a hit from living off McDonald's drive through for the past week lol.
    Why were you on the Luas yesterday then giving out to people for not wearing a mask??!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 798 ✭✭✭Yyhhuuu


    I have a pulse oximeter. Is there anything else worth having?

    I've been thinking of getting and wearing compression socks. They can help with blood circulation, so I'm hoping it might help with the nasty side of blood clots.

    Make sure pulse oximiter has CE mark. Alot of dodgy ones out there.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 798 ✭✭✭Yyhhuuu


    Inquitus wrote: »
    A neighbour a few doors down passed away from Covid yesterday, massive stroke brought on by Covid it seems, he was only in his late 50's I think, tragic, leaves a wife and kids behind. RIP

    Covid is well known to cause a Stroke. It amazes me that the majority where I live still fail to social distance.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,689 ✭✭✭This is it


    Phil.x wrote: »
    No, for a gp phone call€60 and €36 from tablets.
    I had the hse covid test 2 weeks ago.

    I'd you rang about Covid it's free, if you rang about something else then it's a standard charge. As for the tablets, it's your choice whether you buy them or not, not the doctors. If you don't want to spend €36 then don't get them.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,588 ✭✭✭derfderf


    Random question for people that tested positive, or know someone that tested positive, without other people in the house being infected. Are the people that aren't infected smokers by any chance?
    I've read a few articles that basically say all the crap in a smoker's lungs can make it difficult for the virus to get a foothold. It's not peer reviewed or WHO advice, but it makes sense to me. It's not a hill I'd die on either, really just curious.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,234 ✭✭✭sdanseo


    Tested yesterday and got positive result this evening. Symptoms started Saturday, headache, mild fatigue, feverish, chills, muscle aches and sore sinuses, somewhere between a cold and a low grade flu.
    However tomorrow is only day 5 and I'm told the worst of it is usually day 5 to 10 so here's hoping not too bad.

    Essential worker so almost 100% sure I picked it up there.

    Live with my Mam who's in 60's and smokes - much more worried about her keeping as far away as possible. So far thankfully she has no symptoms. Been keeping myself totally isolated, meals left on landing windowsill and only leaving to collect those plus the bathroom.

    Does anyone know if that Coivd isolation facility in citywest for those of use poor eejits who can't go anywhere else is still operational?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,689 ✭✭✭This is it


    derfderf wrote: »
    Random question for people that tested positive, or know someone that tested positive, without other people in the house being infected. Are the people that aren't infected smokers by any chance?
    I've read a few articles that basically say all the crap in a smoker's lungs can make it difficult for the virus to get a foothold. It's not peer reviewed or WHO advice, but it makes sense to me. It's not a hill I'd die on either, really just curious.

    Two in my house tested negative after I got it, neither are smokers. My aunt and uncle had it, their son, a non smoker, tested negative


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,649 ✭✭✭✭fits


    sdanseo wrote: »

    Does anyone know if that Coivd isolation facility in citywest for those of use poor eejits who can't go anywhere else is still operational?

    I read something in last few days that there are 300 staying there at the moment but I’m not sure where or if it was legit


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,346 ✭✭✭✭SteelyDanJalapeno


    I thought smokers would be more inclined to get it, seeing as thou they already have a cough usually and a weakend respiratory system.

    Chest infections are a lot more common in smokers for example


  • Registered Users Posts: 348 ✭✭frink


    Positive test this morning. Called doctor with sinus headache and slight dizziness. Transpired I also had a temperature so was sent for a test. Had just finished my 14 days isolation for close contacts and I was sure that I would have tested positive in this period.

    Headache has subsided already in the 2 days as well as the dizziness so hoping to be able to work from home later in the week.

    No cough, chest pains, or fever anymore. Goes to show how wide ranging the symptoms are getting


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,234 ✭✭✭sdanseo


    Sigh, being self-isolated is bad for your health and especially mental health.

    Took to googling. I take a proton pump inhibitor which apparently at least doubles risk of severe outcomes. More to worry about & now absolutely terrified.

    Gonna stop clicking on anything related to covid now. Suggest anyone in the same boat does the same!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 36 Purple Papillon


    Wibbs wrote: »
    No, because cases quite clearly go down when social distancing measures are in place.

    It does seem that some people appear to be immune to the virus, either because they've already been exposed and cleared it, or because of immunity arising from a previous viral infection in their lives. The latter would explain much, even the variability in symptoms reported.

    The problem remains that a percentage of the population suffer much stronger symptoms which can lead to death or longer term damage that we're still not clear about. This includes younger people.

    It's hard to pinpoint exactly. Just after hearing of a local case, one member of the family infected with a slight illness and the rest of the family escaping and each of the family tested as close contacts and twice returning negative results.

    I don't know if its previous immunity or if its a young adult naturally being socially distant from the family in her room. Also hygiene standards come into play. Some people are behaving responsibly and containing their germs with any slight cough or sneeze into their elbows. A year into this pandemic and other people still don't know what to do and some people are atrocious at not caring about others in their surroundings eg coughing into hands and not washing them.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,170 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    derfderf wrote: »
    Random question for people that tested positive, or know someone that tested positive, without other people in the house being infected. Are the people that aren't infected smokers by any chance?
    I've read a few articles that basically say all the crap in a smoker's lungs can make it difficult for the virus to get a foothold. It's not peer reviewed or WHO advice, but it makes sense to me. It's not a hill I'd die on either, really just curious.
    Since this anomaly came out early on in the pandemic and in every region this virus hit that smokers were under-reported in hospital admissions there have been a few hypothesises: Nicotine may have a protective effect as it has been shown to reduce cytokine storms in the lungs of mouse models, that it may block the receptors the virus latches onto, that it increases the level of ACE2 enzymes in the lung(which was originally thought to increase risk), or all of the above.

    My notion for a long time now is that what SteelyDanJalapeno noted could be the difference:
    Chest infections are a lot more common in smokers for example
    They are, as are respiratory viral infections in general. Smokers catch more colds and flu than non smokers. For a start they're constantly touching their hands to their lips, so surface transmission is far more likely. So if there was a virus Bug X going around over the last ten years(10% of common colds are coronaviruses) that had an inoculation effect against covid - in the same way catching cowpox protects from smallpox - smokers(and more recent ex smokers) were way more likely to have caught Bug X, so are either fighting covid off before it becomes symptomatic, or suffering mild illness that doesn't require hospitalisation. This would also explain why if smokers do catch covid and do require hospitalisation they are more likely to die from it, which is what one would expect. They were the ones who didn't catch Bug X.

    This would also explain the wide range of symptoms in the population at large. Not everybody gets the common cold going around at any one time. Those that caught Bug X have more protection than those who didn't, so are either asymptomatic, or have very mild symptoms. Those who didn't have to start from scratch and are more likely to have more severe illness. The elderly are less prone to common colds than the young so fewer of them might have caught Bug X. This would also explain households and other community living spaces where some catch it and others. even spouses sleeping in the same bed who don't.

    TL;DR? The spread of covid started to look to me like the spread of a virus in a partially immunised population, with its very wide range of severity and with it's wide range of infectiousness. Remember many months ago when researchers reckoned that those nations that has TB vaccination drives until recent times had fewer cases and fewer death and maybe that immunisation was the difference? Well they spotted the same pattern in the population, but the TB thing seems to have come to naught, but IMHO Bug X is a strong possibility.

    Rejoice in the awareness of feeling stupid, for that’s how you end up learning new things. If you’re not aware you’re stupid, you probably are.



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