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The UK COVID variant

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  • Registered Users Posts: 17,764 ✭✭✭✭bilston


    Why are they in such a panic? Could it be that it's a lot more serious than the public have been told?

    At least we can depend on the WHO. :rolleyes:




    https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.businessinsider.com/trump-world-health-organization-who-blame-coronavirus-pandemic-2020-4%3famp

    It's more infectious...more people will get sick at the same time and therefore the pressure on national health systems could prove too much so EU countries don't want that burden on their health systems.

    It's been around since September so if it brought on more severe illness we'd surely know by now.

    Who knows, maybe there is some politicking going on as well, although I'd hope that isn't the case


  • Administrators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 75,727 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Beasty


    Did this come from ferries or eur channel? The outbreak is near ports Dover and wexford..

    Wexford outbreak was linked to a funeral which attracted large numbers from numerous international locations. I suspect Rosslare was not particularly relevant.

    AFAIK we do not at this stage have any outbreaks involving the "UK" variant


  • Registered Users Posts: 23,564 ✭✭✭✭Kermit.de.frog


    Looks like the Netherland's may be following France and banning accompanied freight. Going to be a big impact for UK supply chains.

    https://twitter.com/adamparsons/status/1340758951642730497


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,431 ✭✭✭embraer170


    Looks like the Netherland's may be following France and banning accompanied freight. Going to be a big impact for UK supply chains.

    https://twitter.com/adamparsons/status/1340758951642730497

    This is a disaster for Irish supply chains.


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,274 ✭✭✭Jinglejangle69


    Sky news running with the headline Europe puts the UK into isolation.

    They are unbelievable.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 8,671 ✭✭✭GarIT


    Sky news running with the headline Europe puts the UK into isolation.

    They are unbelievable.

    Why? It's accurate but sensationalist


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,274 ✭✭✭Jinglejangle69


    GarIT wrote: »
    Why? It's accurate but sensationalist

    All feeds into the Brexit narrative.

    Truth is the UK put themselves into isolation because they have handled this whole pandemic appallingly from day 1.


  • Registered Users Posts: 8,671 ✭✭✭GarIT


    All feeds into the Brexit narrative.

    Truth is the UK put themselves into isolation because they have handled this whole pandemic appallingly from day 1.

    We didn't go from "we can never close borders" to "we just close borders now" over ongoing poor management.


  • Registered Users Posts: 17,764 ✭✭✭✭bilston


    Sky news running with the headline Europe puts the UK into isolation.

    They are unbelievable.

    I don't get your problem.

    Is that not EXACTLY what is happening?


  • Registered Users Posts: 23,564 ✭✭✭✭Kermit.de.frog


    Sky news running with the headline Europe puts the UK into isolation.

    They are unbelievable.

    It's not only Europe.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 7,274 ✭✭✭Jinglejangle69


    bilston wrote: »
    I don't get your problem.

    Is that not EXACTLY what is happening?

    You don't think there is a Brexit blame the EU narrative going on?


  • Registered Users Posts: 23,564 ✭✭✭✭Kermit.de.frog




  • Site Banned Posts: 113 ✭✭Dunfyy


    this new variant is more than 70 per cent more transmissible

    The United Kingdom on Sunday broke its daily coronavirus case record, recording 35,928 new cases.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,374 ✭✭✭SortingYouOut


    New variant potentially increases R number by 0.9, not 0.4 as first reported. Came out of the cobra meeting today. Makes sense why countries have shut off from the UK, this would see massive global spread again. Cut off and get the vaccine in their quick fast. 500k out of 66 million isn't enough.

    Beverly Hills, California



  • Registered Users Posts: 13,463 ✭✭✭✭Danzy


    All feeds into the Brexit narrative.

    Truth is the UK put themselves into isolation because they have handled this whole pandemic appallingly from day 1.

    There about mid level in Europe for Covid.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,751 ✭✭✭mirrorwall14


    New variant potentially increases R number by 0.9, not 0.4 as first reported. Came out of the cobra meeting today. Makes sense why countries have shut off from the UK, this would see massive global spread again. Cut off and get the vaccine in their quick fast. 500k out of 66 million isn't enough.

    Source for the 0.9? Coz that’s absolutely ****e if it’s confirmed. We are completely fecked


  • Registered Users Posts: 8,671 ✭✭✭GarIT


    New variant potentially increases R number by 0.9, not 0.4 as first reported. Came out of the cobra meeting today. Makes sense why countries have shut off from the UK, this would see massive global spread again. Cut off and get the vaccine in their quick fast. 500k out of 66 million isn't enough.

    I don't think we ever got our R number to .4 and it was actually .93 so even if our regular covid r number was .5 in a lockdown, this variant would keep cases growing in that lockdown.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 624 ✭✭✭Humberto Salazar


    Watch the supermarkets run out of fresh food here very quickly.


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,434 ✭✭✭McGiver


    New variant potentially increases R number by 0.9, not 0.4 as first reported. Came out of the cobra meeting today. Makes sense why countries have shut off from the UK, this would see massive global spread again. Cut off and get the vaccine in their quick fast. 500k out of 66 million isn't enough.

    Link to the relevant studies?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,480 ✭✭✭Blondini


    This new turn of events is quite staggering really.

    Nearly feels surreal?


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  • Registered Users Posts: 2,431 ✭✭✭embraer170


    Apparently in tomorrow's British papers.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,431 ✭✭✭embraer170


    Blondini wrote: »
    This new turn of events is quite staggering really.

    Nearly feels surreal?

    Absolutely.


  • Registered Users Posts: 8,419 ✭✭✭wirelessdude01


    Nine o'clock news reported new variant increased R number somewhere in the region 0.4 to 0.9


  • Registered Users Posts: 8,671 ✭✭✭GarIT


    Nine o'clock news reported new variant increased R number somewhere in the region 0.4 to 0.9

    I read earlier it increases an R number of 0.4 to 0.93 . Looking for the source. There's 2+ threads and 600+ posts between them.


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,250 ✭✭✭Buford T Justice


    No doubt you can still fly to belfast and get the bus.....


  • Registered Users Posts: 8,671 ✭✭✭GarIT


    No doubt you can still fly to belfast and get the bus.....

    Flights are already booked out and I doubt more will be added.


  • Registered Users Posts: 27,121 ✭✭✭✭GreeBo


    Risteard81 wrote: »
    A "vaccine" which was developed in mere weeks, and the safety of which absolutely cannot possibly be guaranteed long-term? And yet you want to handcuff people and forcibly inject this unknown substance into them? Utterly appalling.

    You prefer people to get infected with an equally unknown virus? What are the long term impacts of covid?


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,374 ✭✭✭SortingYouOut


    McGiver wrote: »
    Link to the relevant studies?

    http://news.sky.com/story/covid-19-how-worried-should-we-be-about-the-threat-of-the-new-strain-12168893

    Don't have a link to a study, sure where would I get that so early?

    Beverly Hills, California



  • Registered Users Posts: 6,421 ✭✭✭SafeSurfer


    Could there be a possible link between the UK being the first to roll out the Pfizer vaccine and the first to observe this more contagious strain of Covid?

    Probably not?

    Multo autem ad rem magis pertinet quallis tibi vide aris quam allis



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  • Registered Users Posts: 9,553 ✭✭✭John_Rambo


    Watch the supermarkets run out of fresh food here very quickly.

    This foolish narrative has been touted by the likes of you at every step since day one of Covid and it never happened.

    It's still not going to happen just like your predictions of the "end of the economy" and the "riots" you told us would happen.

    Stop panicking, calm down, grow up and don't lean towards scaremongering. Commerce & Freight will continue to operate and fresh food will remain available.


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