Provisional Vaccine Allocation - updated 31/03/21

ShineOn7

Amirani wrote: »

Reported today in Irish Times that 800 people outside of top 2 vaccination groups have been given a vaccine. Seems pretty low.

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/health/covid-19-almost-800-people-outside-top-two-priority-groups-have-been-vaccinated-1.4480591

Among the individuals who were vaccinated outside the first two priority groups are family members of staff at the Coombe and Rotunda maternity hospitals in Dublin, construction workers at University Hospital Kerry and KPMG consultants working for the HSE.

What.


The.


Fcuk!



Cue a bit of online outrage for 24 hours and then forgotten about by Friday

This country to a tee

I remember this Chinese woman who was racially abused by scumbags in Finglas and then thrown into a river ....

Amirani

ShineOn7 wrote: »

What.



The.



Fcuk!



Cue a bit of online outrage for 24 hours and then forgotten about by Friday

The KPMG consultants were/are apparently working regularly within hospitals, interacting with staff and/or patients as part of vaccine rollout.

ShineOn7

Amirani wrote: »

The KPMG consultants were/are apparently working regularly within hospitals, interacting with staff and/or patients.

Of course they were ...

Amirani

ShineOn7 wrote: »

Of course they were ...

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/health/covid-19-kpmg-staff-working-with-hse-receive-vaccine-1.4470958

It's a frontline healthcare role if you're interacting with clinical staff and patients getting vaccinated. That's the definition, doesn't really matter who your employer is.

eastie17

what are the thoughts on the INMO rep on the news the last 24 hours? I get the point she was making but only if you listened carefully, it seemed to be that the start of the rollout was a bit shambolic and front line workers weren't always prioritised.
However the way she was saying it seemed to be trying to imply that it was still shambolic and front line workers still werent getting it. Was it just me who got that impression?

polesheep

eastie17 wrote: »

what are the thoughts on the INMO rep on the news the last 24 hours? I get the point she was making but only if you listened carefully, it seemed to be that the start of the rollout was a bit shambolic and front line workers weren't always prioritised.
However the way she was saying it seemed to be trying to imply that it was still shambolic and front line workers still werent getting it. Was it just me who got that impression?

She's the same leader that marched the nurses up a hill and back down again for next to nothing. And then spent the next few months emailing them trying to persuade them that it had been worth it.

Snotty

eastie17 wrote: »

what are the thoughts on the INMO rep on the news the last 24 hours? I get the point she was making but only if you listened carefully, it seemed to be that the start of the rollout was a bit shambolic and front line workers weren't always prioritised.
However the way she was saying it seemed to be trying to imply that it was still shambolic and front line workers still werent getting it. Was it just me who got that impression?

This isn't a, looking back we made mistakes, this is today we are making mistakes and will make more tomorrow. From all reports, today there are nurses working on ICU and Covid wards that did not get their first vaccinations.
Will that be resolved quickly, probably, but will some front line hospital staff still not have got their first jab in a few weeks time, definitely.

PhilOssophy

ShineOn7 wrote: »

Of course they were ...

Sure it wouldn't be a government project without a team of consultants, no doubt KPMG's newly formed expert vaccine rollout team......spent 3 days finding out what Israel did.

Thank you Mr. Donnelly. That'll be 1k quid a day per head. But isn't he wearing a lovely suit so he must be clever.

ShineOn7

Changes have been made

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/health/covid-19-people-aged-16-69-with-very-high-risk-conditions-moved-up-vaccine-list-1.4493352

speckle

SusanC10 wrote: »

I have asked this on other threads but hopefully may get an answer here.

Which Category do Adults with Special Needs ie Down Syndrome or Cerebral Palsy fall into ?

See below list downs syndrome listed..not sure re other

ShineOn7

Official clarity on the changes

https://www.gov.ie/en/press-release/b44b2-minister-donnelly-announces-update-to-vaccine-allocation-strategy/

ShineOn7

Excuse the RTE link, this came up just now as a suggested video on my YouTube feed

RTE being RTE they of course say "mixed emotions", but I reckon most people think the changes this week were fair

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TvZXYeIh8ho

PhilOssophy

ShineOn7 wrote: »

Excuse the RTE link, this came up just now as a suggested video on my YouTube feed

RTE being RTE they of course say "mixed emotions", but I reckon most people think the changes this week were fair

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TvZXYeIh8ho

RTE are high on misery porn. I wonder do these people seek out RTE or vice versa. No matter what you do, there is no perfect solution to these things.

ShineOn7

A good and free article from the Irish Times

They're very positive and bullish on the pace of things really picking up saying

The next two groups – key workers involved in the vaccination programme (Group 6) and a large group of 350,000 or more 18-64 year-olds with certain medical conditions (Group 7) – could also receive their first jab in quarter one, or perhaps early in quarter two.

So they think we'll reach Groups 6 and 7 by March/April?

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/health/coronavirus/vaccine-rollout-when-will-different-groups-of-the-population-get-their-jab-1.4485239

Sconsey

ShineOn7 wrote: »

A good and free article from the Irish Times

They're very positive and bullish on the pace of things really picking up saying



So they think we'll reach Groups 6 and 7 by March/April?

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/health/coronavirus/vaccine-rollout-when-will-different-groups-of-the-population-get-their-jab-1.4485239

That article looks to be out of date and does not reflect the updated rollout plan and groupings (based on included quote).

ShineOn7

Sconsey wrote: »

That article looks to be out of date and does not reflect the updated rollout plan and groupings (based on included quote).

Good catch

It's on the IT's front page so it's bizarre/lazy it hasn't been updated by them

I don't think that changes their projections though, that Cohorts 6 and 7 will be done by this and next month

It's highly ambitious but hopefully true

I just wanted to make this thread for people in Cohort 4 for the vaccine who are not involved woth hospitals and have no idea yet when/ how they will be identified. I know it has been said GPs May/will be involved at some point but nothing has been confirmed and most GPs are as clueless.

My own father is in the cohort because his BMI is over 40. (He has diabetes but it is controlled.)

If anyone hears any updated information, please post here. HSE live have been useless both on the phone and by email.

Thanks.

Beasty

Threads merged

carr62

boomtown1 im in the same position as your father. Im in cohort 4 due to bmi over 40, but also had major surgery last week ( not bmi related) which looks like im going to take some time to recover from. 2 consultants have told me in the past week that i need to get the vaccine and should get on to my GP about it. My GP knows nothing of vaccinating cohort 4. I was at risk to begin with, but now since surgery with school going children in the house im terrified of the prospect of covid coming in to the house. I dont know where to turn.

Hi Carr

Sorry only seeing this now. I have been onto many people and unfortunately have had no luck.

Despite being on the list for Cohort 4, those with BMI over 40 seem to be totally overlooked

ShineOn7

Hmm

I'm sensing possible ructions incoming with the next few Cohorts

Will it come down to GP's "assessment" of just how much someone is in a category?

Or maybe HSE's assessment?

Either way, I can see some legal challenges coming from some not deemed to be "enough" in a certain Cohort

https://twitter.com/PriscillaLynch/status/1375118374162817030?s=19

3mom4

Brilliant news, some hope at last!!

https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/health/major-overhaul-of-vaccine-roll-out-to-see-people-vaccinated-based-on-their-age-40256574.html

Finally some commonsense.

I have to say I had lost all heart in vaccination programme.

The optics up to now were if you had no voice/union/lobby group get to the back of the queue.

Best decision.

If you look at the stats age is your biggest risk with this thing.

Tony Holihan must have been on the wine when he wrote that first list in December.

Vaccinating 18 years olds before people in their early fifties.

So many rows avoided with teachers and gardai.

Bonkers stuff.

UK showing us the way.

Seamybeag

I looked at the hse website and didnt find any mention of asplenia when describing the parameters for the high risk groups.I am asplenic and have always believed that i am immunocompromised i.e. at risk of infection . I get the flu jab every year and have got the pnemonia and meningitus vaccine last year.
Does anyone know if I will be classed as high risk ?

nibtrix

Do you have a hospital consultant who manages your condition? It’s the hospitals that are putting together the “very high risk” category for the most part

speckle

And if not contact your GP and if they are no help ring public health and ask to talk to a public health official/nurse/doctor.

Jim_Hodge

I checked with the medic in the family and she says this has been reviewed and discussed with the conclusion that there is no evidence that the lack of a spleen, or part of a spleen, or a non-functioning spleen on its own renders patients at higher risk of Covid-19. Much depends on the underlying cause for splenectomy
or asplenia and any associated co-morbidities and treatments.
Any sufferers from asplenia should be under the care of a consultant and they are coordinating the vaccine programme. Check with your consultant.

Beasty

Threads merged

Beasty

Deleted User wrote: »

https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/health/major-overhaul-of-vaccine-roll-out-to-see-people-vaccinated-based-on-their-age-40256574.html

Finally some commonsense.

Suits me sir!!

Looks like I would move up 3 cohorts (12 to 9) based on this

The issue they identified in the UK was the grey areas between categories, and indeed how things like "essential workers" could be defined

They reckoned that once the vulnerable were vaccinated they would be rapidly moving through any other "cohorts" anyway. It was much more straightforward to allocate based on something that could nopt be fudged - ie age