Teenage Darndale Gang

Sweet.Science

Still causing mayhem

https://www.thejournal.ie/gang-teens-baldoyle-park-5283639-Nov2020/

It's now getting to the stage where its more dangerous to raise your kids in surrounding areas than the place itself

Pkiernan

The true cost of unlimited dole and a punishment free society.

ElJeffe

Usual dole and welfare comments incoming.

Some of the biggest scumbags out there have parents that work folks. Change the record.

Foxhound38

Cut the parents dole money when their kids are involved in stuff like this - then they wouldn't be long putting a stop to it.

Charlie Bucket

Pkiernan wrote: »

The true cost of unlimited dole and a punishment free society.

Thread delivers.

Bonniedog

I know some people from Darndale and they are sound but it is horrendous place, even to look at. It's not too bad near the main road but the further in you go the more it becomes like a set from some dystopian movie. A lot of good people stuck there because they can't afford to move.

Panthro

Tag em.
Tag em all.

Blondini

Kids don't care. Parents don't care. Cops don't care.

No easy solution except trying to avoid the cretins.

One eyed Jack

A 51-year-old woman was walking her dogs with a friend when she saw the attack unfold.

She said the man walked towards them and was “minding his own business” before he was attacked.

The eye-witness told TheJournal.ie: “We were just walking and then we could hear this shouting. They surrounded him and then they started beating him.”

She said she appealed to the leader of the group to stop and asked him why the teenagers were attacking him.

It is understood the boys had earlier surrounded the victim and he had attempted to push his way through them.

She added: “It was just so surreal. They just started beating him. We kept shouting at them to stop. They had this metal pipe thing and they keep hitting him over the head with it. It looked like they really wanted to hurt him. They just were taking turns hitting him.”

The boys eventually left and the eye-witness and her friend tended to the injured man. There was blood running down his face and his nose appeared to be broken. Gardaí and an ambulance were called.


Incredibly brave woman!

bri007

This gang are terrorising st Anne’s park the last few months, attacking teenagers stealing their bikes, attacking people, smashing mirrors of cars. They go around in gangs of up to 13/14 of them. Mate is a Garda and said they can’t do a thing to them and takes up so much resources and time when little can be done.

walshb

bri007 wrote: »

This gang are terrorising st Anne’s park the last few months, attacking teenagers stealing their bikes, attacking people, smashing mirrors of cars. They go around in gangs of up to 13/14 of them. Mate is a Garda and said they can’t do a thing to them and takes up so much resources and time when little can be done.

Gardai can’t do a thing to them?

Is this a joke?

Gardai can’t stop them, challenge them, protect the public from them?

Can’t actually do the job that society charges them with?

tylercheribini

ElJeffe wrote: »

Usual dole and welfare comments incoming.

Some of the biggest scumbags out there have parents that work folks. Change the record.

Yup, white collar criminals have caused more damage to society than any supposed "dole spongers. "

Ya these boys are all future accountants sons of bank clerks surely

Ffs

Bonniedog

tylercheribini wrote: »

Yup, white collar criminals have caused more damage to society than any supposed "dole spongers. "

It is not an either/or situation. the Anglo crowd were indeed anti social scum, but so are those who prey on the communities they infest. And both have a similar attitude of not giving one fart about anyone else.

tylercheribini

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Ya these boys are all future accountants sons of bank clerks surely

Ffs

So you cant connect the 65 billion euro plus bankers cost this country,resulting in savage austerity measures across the board to this day?

"Ffs. "

Bonniedog

tylercheribini wrote: »

So you cant connect the 65 billion euro plus bankers cost this country,resulting in savage austerity measures across the board to this day?

"Ffs. "

The bankers who put us in hock are no more representative of "white collar" people than the scum in Darndale are of most of their neighbours.

Thelonious Monk

Here's a video of a woman getting battered on the 27 bus last week in Darndale by teenagers - https://www.dublinlive.ie/news/dublin-news/dublin-bus-fight-footage-shows-19355615

It just seems part and parcel of Dublin/Ireland. There have been gangs like this for as long as I've been around anyway, they just get a bit more press these days because of social media.
We as a country have more scumbags than other European countries, for all kinds of reasons.

tylercheribini

tylercheribini wrote: »

So you cant connect the 65 billion euro plus bankers cost this country,resulting in savage austerity measures across the board to this day?

"Ffs. "

You can connect that to these cuntlings?

I mean I'm sure you can but ffs

tylercheribini

Bonniedog wrote: »

It is not an either/or situation. the Anglo crowd were indeed anti social scum, but so are those who prey on the communities they infest. And both have a similar attitude of not giving one fart about anyone else.

'Roving gangs symbolising wider societal decay' makes a much more visceral headline grabber than your average tax evader of course. My point is immorality is not monopolised by either section of society but when its white collar the result is often far more catastrophic for everyone. How many countless died from suicides,related illnesses from debt, austerity cuts in health, housing and general social spending? All done with keystrokes on a computer than at knifepoint in a park.

tylercheribini

Bonniedog wrote: »

The bankers who put us in hock are no more representative of "white collar" people than the scum in Darndale are of most of their neighbours.

You will note I said "white collar criminals"

Snotty

If anyone is wondering why the average thread on boards goes to complete incoherent dribble. Exhibit A:

tylercheribini wrote: »

Yup, white collar criminals have caused more damage to society than any supposed "dole spongers. "

Bonniedog

tylercheribini wrote: »

'Roving gangs symbolising wider societal decay' makes a much more visceral headline grabber than your average tax evader of course. My point is immorality is not monopolised by either section of society but when its white collar the result is often far more catastrophic for everyone. How many countless died from suicides,related illnesses from debt, austerity cuts in health, housing and general social spending? All done with keystrokes on a computer than at knifepoint in a park.

Fair enough, but you sound as though you are either excusing the anti social stuff or claiming is is caused by the former.

Bonniedog

Bonniedog wrote: »

Fair enough, but you sound as though you are either excusing the anti social stuff or claiming is is caused by the former.

Not how I took him/her up at all.

tylercheribini

Snotty wrote: »

If anyone is wondering why the average thread on boards goes to complete incoherent dribble. Exhibit A:

You must be the intellectual of the group?

Pkiernan

Let's give violent criminals a free pass because of the bank crash.

That makes sense.

Darndale was a sithole for the last 30 years.

More free dole is whats needed, and more suspended sentences.

That'll learn em.

The Liberal Arts students so in tune with the most vulnerable shoulf drive daddy's BMW thru Darndale one evening, and feel the locals pain.

Bonniedog

Deleted User wrote: »

Not how I took him/her up at all.

Fair enough. i took it up wrong so. Me culpa.

ElJeffe

Thelonious Monk wrote: »

Here's a video of a woman getting battered on the 27 bus last week in Darndale by teenagers - https://www.dublinlive.ie/news/dublin-news/dublin-bus-fight-footage-shows-19355615

It just seems part and parcel of Dublin/Ireland. There have been gangs like this for as long as I've been around anyway, they just get a bit more press these days because of social media.
We as a country have more scumbags than other European countries, for all kinds of reasons.

You mustn't have ever left Ireland if you think that. These scumbags would get eaten alive in part of Naples or Paris. Nearly everywhere in Europe has this problem.

tylercheribini

Pkiernan wrote: »

Let's give violent criminals a free pass because of the bank crash.

That makes sense.

Darndale was a sithole for the last 30 years.

More free dole is whats needed, and more suspended sentences.

That'll learn em.

The Liberal Arts students so in tune with the most vulnerable shoulf drive daddy's BMW thru Darndale one evening, and feel the locals pain.

You sound like you have your finger on the pulse of the community, why not start an outreach group?

Buddy Bubs

Britain has them for sure but do other European countries have this kind of grey tracksuit, no socks and black runners, stupid haircut kind of scumbag element? As in white, indigenous, sub species, like the lads in the young offenders / love hate and obviously the cast at your local welfare office... I know there's huge problems around immigrant crime in Europe and skinheads/neo nazi/mafia and organised crime but do they have scobies like the UK and Ireland ?

1874

tylercheribini wrote: »

So you cant connect the 65 billion euro plus bankers cost this country,resulting in savage austerity measures across the board to this day?
"Ffs. "

I think this would have existed regardless, no doubt the billions of euro of private debt spineless Politicians took on, on our behalf doesn't help.

Thelonious Monk wrote: »

Here's a video of a woman getting battered on the 27 bus last week in Darndale by teenagers - https://www.dublinlive.ie/news/dublin-news/dublin-bus-fight-footage-shows-19355615

It just seems part and parcel of Dublin/Ireland. There have been gangs like this for as long as I've been around anyway, they just get a bit more press these days because of social media.
We as a country have more scumbags than other European countries, for all kinds of reasons.

Based on my experience with the Gardai, the only way to deal with these people is , avoid and then if not possible carry some kind of non lethal weapon around, and in the case of that person on the bus, just knock them out unfortunately, dont want to be getting into a wrestling match with people or start taking them down individually, not entirely realistic as they always travel in gangs and if you live in the area, you'd become known and targetted, but not impossible, but you will be on the receiving end of something. Was in a part of Drimnagh recently, probably similar, unpleasant looking, gangs hanging around, limitless state assistance isn't the solution. If they cant rehab themselves then the only way to deal with correctly is lock people up for this kind of thing, and force them to change, but thats not happening.

tylercheribini wrote: »

'Roving gangs symbolising wider societal decay' makes a much more visceral headline grabber than your average tax evader of course. My point is immorality is not monopolised by either section of society but when its white collar the result is often far more catastrophic for everyone. How many countless died from suicides,related illnesses from debt, austerity cuts in health, housing and general social spending? All done with keystrokes on a computer than at knifepoint in a park.

That does affect people, what the state has to fund or not in communities, but in a way that can put people in fear or concern of the future, but that affects everyone even if to lesser degrees. This, violence/terrorising people in their own community, means every place a person who resides in an area and their family can be can be a living torment if you get noticed on someones radar. They are scum.

Thelonious Monk

Thelonious Monk wrote: »

Here's a video of a woman getting battered on the 27 bus last week in Darndale by teenagers - https://www.dublinlive.ie/news/dublin-news/dublin-bus-fight-footage-shows-19355615

It just seems part and parcel of Dublin/Ireland. There have been gangs like this for as long as I've been around anyway, they just get a bit more press these days because of social media.
We as a country have more scumbags than other European countries, for all kinds of reasons.

Quite likely the woman is a skanger too, a little b1tch feud I imagine.

Geuze

tylercheribini wrote: »

So you cant connect the 65 billion euro plus bankers cost this country,resulting in savage austerity measures across the board to this day?

"Ffs. "

The gross cost of the banking re-capitalisation was 63-64 bn, yes.

Note that we acquired assets in return for that, it is not a complete loss.

But yes, the loss is huge.

Note that the austerity stopped years ago, 2014/2015.

There has been the opposite of austerity since 2015, large increases in public spending.

tylercheribini

Geuze wrote: »

The gross cost of the banking re-capitalisation was 63-64 bn, yes.

Note that we acquired assets in return for that, it is not a complete loss.

But yes, the loss is huge.

Note that the austerity stopped years ago, 2014/2015.

There has been the opposite of austerity since 2015, large increases in public spending.

The gross figure you quote is not inclusive of the resulting billions in interest we have paid so far, and continue to pay to service our ballooned national debt. The effects of this drastically increased debt burden will be with us for generations to come, these effects caused dont just "stop" on specific dates. Eg Our ongoing homelessness crisis

dd973

Bonniedog wrote: »

I know some people from Darndale and they are sound but it is horrendous place, even to look at. It's not too bad near the main road but the further in you go the more it becomes like a set from some dystopian movie. A lot of good people stuck there because they can't afford to move.

In before me, very depressing part of the city, also when you go through it by car it's really dark as well, even by night time standards.

1874

tylercheribini wrote: »

The gross figure you quote is not inclusive of the resulting billions in interest we have paid so far, and continue to pay to service our ballooned national debt. The effects of this drastically increased debt burden will be with us for generations to come, these effects caused dont just "stop" on specific dates. Eg Our ongoing homelessness crisis

But is it the cause of some people terrorising others in the same community, who either are subject to the same circumstances or worse or are trying to work and learn their way out if it?
There is no excuse for that kind of treatment being metted out by some people, I dont think they even say it themselves, not that they'd know, because some people have been at this for generations.
I consider Ireland to be lawless in some areas, like this. Do you really think if there were resources because the State didnt take on that debt, that these problems would be fixed, I think the money wouldnt have been found and would have got lost on social and other vanity projects.

I will not be surprised when someone takes the law into their own hands becomes widespread

biko

Is shipping them off to Australia an option?

Daragh1980

tylercheribini wrote: »

Yup, white collar criminals have caused more damage to society than any supposed "dole spongers. "

Another apologist for violent crime.
The man who they attacked will feel the effects of this for years, long after the broken bones heal.

1874

Daragh1980 wrote: »

Another apologist for violent crime.
The man who they attacked will feel the effects of this for years, long after the broken bones heal.

Yes, and that guy will likely have to go back living beside these scum who will have nothing done to them about it.

tylercheribini

1874 wrote: »

Do you really think if there were resources because the State didnt take on that debt, that these problems would be fixed, I think the money wouldnt have been found and would have got lost on social and other vanity projects.

Despite popular opinion on this thread, I have not once conflated this example of social disorder with the economic collapse, thats a far more complex question to which I dont have the answer. I am just consistently perplexed by the divide and conquer class warfare present on a multitude of threads, if only the same ire was reserved for the real common enemy to us all, our elite overlords.

Failed housing schemes. Most kids haven't a hope when born into that negativity. Drugs and alcohol are the easy way out, and you're stuck in a cycle of addiction and little prospects.

Level it and relocate the residents over time. Regenerate the area.

Richard Hillman

Nothing will happen if they are caught. They'll be entered into the Youth Diversion Programme and the JLO will give them a caution. They are probably already on it, so another stern word would be had.

Word of note. The Programme for Government want to extend this scheme from 18 years of age up to 24.

This is why kids are not afraid of the garda anymore. Nothing will happen. The skangers in my area when I was young were the worst of the worst, some very notable crimes that made the news. But they always had to keep a low profile because the Garda were always after them with warrants and the like.

Donald Trump

tylercheribini wrote: »

Despite popular opinion on this thread, I have not once conflated this example of social disorder with the economic collapse, thats a far more complex question to which I dont have the answer. I am just consistently perplexed by the divide and conquer class warfare present on a multitude of threads, if only the same ire was reserved for the real common enemy to us all, our elite overlords.

Maybe you're trying to be "cool" or contrarian but I think most people would agree it is a load of shite to going on about bankers because some skangers surrounded one vastly outnumbered fella and battered him repeatedly for the craic.

1874

tylercheribini wrote: »

Despite popular opinion on this thread, I have not once conflated this example of social disorder with the economic collapse, thats a far more complex question to which I dont have the answer. I am just consistently perplexed by the divide and conquer class warfare present on a multitude of threads, if only the same ire was reserved for the real common enemy to us all, our elite overlords.

Overlords, absolutely agree, but this thread isnt about that, its about selfish degenerate scum turning on their fellow citizens, neighbours, who are as subject to the problems caused by our overlords as the rest of us, its no excuse, I dont even think they use it themselves, because then they at least would see themselves as being in a similar situation to people they intended to carry this out on, that might make them think.
Its mob mentality, for what purpose? lash out at society? there are more facilities than ever, the most important being educational.
You can bring a horse to water, but you cant make it drink if it doesnt want to.

Richard Hillman

Richard Hillman wrote: »

Nothing will happen if they are caught. They'll be entered into the Youth Diversion Programme and the JLO will give them a caution. They are probably already on it, so another stern word would be had.

Word of note. The Programme for Government want to extend this scheme from 18 years of age up to 24.

**** that.

Get them paying taxes and contributing. Doing anything. Picking up litter, bloody anything but scrounging.

Bonniedog

dd973 wrote: »

In before me, very depressing part of the city, also when you go through it by car it's really dark as well, even by night time standards.

It is. I live in a more settled working class part of the city, and while there are scum around, they don't have that all pervasive menace that is palpable in places like Darndale. I walked through it one time with a friend and at some point there are actually very few street lights and no paths. And no one around other than the odd person hurrying home and of course the scum.

She was involved in election campaigns in the area, and told me that in one winter election almost nobody in Darndale came out to vote after it began to get dark. i wouldn't consider myself to be a shrinking violet but was genuinely scared going through the place. Only equivalent to that was one day working out in Adamstown, where we decided to abandon ship when it was obvious the local hoods were following us about. A lot of it has to do with the physical appearance of the place. I doubt whichever planner drew them up would want to live in them.

They should be relocated to an island and left to fend for themselves.

Or sterilised and put to work in chain gangs or labour camps.

Scum will never contribute anything worthwhile. With their freedom and the ability to breed, it only ever gets worse.

Nothing good ever comes from ignoring a problem. They should be dealt with swiftly and with ferocious intent.

whisky_galore

ElJeffe wrote: »

You mustn't have ever left Ireland if you think that. These scumbags would get eaten alive in part of Naples or Paris. Nearly everywhere in Europe has this problem.

Ah shur tis grand...nawtin to see here.

JayZeus

JayZeus wrote: »

They should be relocated to an island and left to fend for themselves.

Or sterilised and put to work in chain gangs or labour camps.

Scum will never contribute anything worthwhile. With their freedom and the ability to breed, it only ever gets worse.

Nothing good ever comes from ignoring a problem. They should be dealt with swiftly and with ferocious intent.

An island surrounded by sea? On all sides?...

Eric Cartman

tylercheribini wrote: »

Yup, white collar criminals have caused more damage to society than any supposed "dole spongers. "

Hahah. Hillarious. The poor and welfare dependent are responsible for most of societies ills

Larbre34

The crimes you don't see are carried out by the educated, the crimes you do are carried out by the forgotten and the ignored.

This is not a competition however. The way its supposed to work is the Garda Commissioner is supposed to say to the Government, 'I have a problem here and I don't have the tools to fix it, sort me out please'

Any Garda who throws his hands up and says 'there's nothing I can do' is certainly making that a permanent situation. If both the Guards and the Government don't want vigilantism, they'd better think very carefully about drastically reducing the age of criminal responsibility and applying sanctions to parents and guardians.

tylercheribini

Donald Trump wrote: »

Maybe you're trying to be "cool" or contrarian but I think most people would agree it is a load of shite to going on about bankers because some skangers surrounded one vastly outnumbered fella and battered him repeatedly for the craic.

The reason I cited the example of a minority(bankers)wreaking economic havoc on society is because this thread was the usual, well worn guff about another minority of 'welfare queens' somehow crippling the economy. If this 'argument' is going to be put forth then at least contextualise it.