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The Vaccine

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,599 ✭✭✭Harika


    Where is the pandemic ??I would love to know ????look across the world what is happening, but you will not see it on mainstream media because it's the truth Berlin 2million on the streets

    Show evidence of that please.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,521 ✭✭✭runawaybishop


    GT89 wrote: »
    The amount of excess deaths vs the amount of covid deaths

    Given that a bunch of people are wearing masks and staying at home a hell of a lot more you would expect the death rate to be lower anyway.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 44 Wantedbymany


    King Mob wrote: »
    Ok. That's a very specific claim.

    What evidence do you have that the vaccine was "there for years"?
    Do you also subscribe to the silly idea the virus was created?

    What id the overall plan for this "Plandemic"?





    Charles lieber paid to manufacture your so called virus to disperse protesters in China back when the people rebelled against the new government that was forced upon them by the military coup government that got in to place


  • Posts: 25,874 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Where is the pandemic ?
    It's called the Covid pandemic.
    COVID IS NOT NATURAL
    Yes it is.
    Conspiracy theorists like yourself keep claiming this, but you've offered nothing to support this bizarre and untrue claim.
    Charles lieber paid to manufacture your so called virus to disperse protesters in China back when the people rebelled against the new government that was forced upon them by the military coup government that got in to place
    And none of this is true either.

    Why do you have to lie and just make things up to support a conspiracy theory?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,124 ✭✭✭✭Dohnjoe


    Charles lieber paid to manufacture your so called virus to disperse protesters in China back when the people rebelled against the new government that was forced upon them by the military coup government that got in to place

    Okay, that's quite the extraordinary claim, and your evidence for this? (with proper sources)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 44 Wantedbymany


    The pharma companies have said the vaccine will be not for profit as long as the pandemic is ongoing.

    How to you mean not for profit ?the us government is paying 2billon for the FIRST batch they get as well as many other country's around this green rock we live on IT WILL BE FREE FOR PEOPLE TO GET BUT INDIRECTLY PAYED FOR BY THE PEOPLE


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,087 ✭✭✭jackboy


    King Mob wrote: »
    Yes it is.
    Conspiracy theorists like yourself keep claiming this, but you've offered nothing to support this bizarre and untrue claim.

    The real question is, was the virus outbreak directly from nature or was the virus released from a lab by accident?

    A virus released from a lab could be natural with no genetic modification. A lab could be doing all sorts of experiments on a natural virus.

    The fact that the wet market of origin is so close to a virus research lab cannot be ignored.


  • Posts: 25,874 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    jackboy wrote: »
    The real question is, was the virus outbreak directly from nature or was the virus released from a lab by accident?
    .
    Not really. This is only a question to conspiracy theorists in the same way "is the earth flat" is a question.

    The virus is natural. There's been no evidence to the contrary.

    The person I was quoting seems to be of the opinion the virus is entirely artificial.
    We all know that this is completely false.

    The real question I've been asking is "What's the real death rate and how is this number verified."
    Yet no conspiracy theorist seems to want to answer this question.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,922 ✭✭✭✭Timberrrrrrrr


    How to you mean not for profit ?the us government is paying 2billon for the FIRST batch they get as well as many other country's around this green rock we live on IT WILL BE FREE FOR PEOPLE TO GET BUT INDIRECTLY PAYED FOR BY THE PEOPLE

    Cost of vaccine to produce let's say €20, price charged by pharma company €20 = not for profit

    Cost of vaccine to produce €20, price charged by pharma company €120 = for profit

    Its not rocket science


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,087 ✭✭✭jackboy


    King Mob wrote: »
    Not really. This is only a question to conspiracy theorists in the same way "is the earth flat" is a question.

    The virus is natural. There's been no evidence to the contrary.

    The person I was quoting seems to be of the opinion the virus is entirely artificial.
    We all know that this is completely false.

    The real question I've been asking is "What's the real death rate and how is this number verified."
    Yet no conspiracy theorist seems to want to answer this question.
    The virus could be completely natural and have been released from a lab. The source of the virus has not been conclusively proven.


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  • Posts: 25,874 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    jackboy wrote: »
    The virus could be completely natural and have been released from a lab. The source of the virus has not been conclusively proven.
    No, it has been shown to be natural. All medical organizations have conformed that it is a natural virus and none support the idea that it is not.

    There's been no evidence to show otherwise.

    And again, I was responding to a poster who was claiming the virus was artificial.
    Do you believe the virus is artificial?

    The question however remains.

    Do you personally believe that the number of covid deaths is being exaggerated?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,087 ✭✭✭jackboy


    King Mob wrote: »
    No, it has been shown to be natural. All medical organizations have conformed that it is a natural virus and none support the idea that it is not.

    There's been no evidence to show otherwise.

    And again, I was responding to a poster who was claiming the virus was artificial.
    Do you believe the virus is artificial?

    The question however remains.

    Do you personally believe that the number of covid deaths is being exaggerated?

    I keep suggesting that it may have been a natural virus released from a lab. The medical organisations saying that it is a natural virus are not saying that it wasn’t released from a lab. They don’t know where it came from.

    To answer your question about the Covid deaths we would need a definition of a covid death. There are many potential definitions.


  • Posts: 25,874 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    jackboy wrote: »
    I keep suggesting that it may have been a natural virus released from a lab. The medical organisations saying that it is a natural virus are not saying that it wasn’t released from a lab. They don’t know where it came from.
    They haven't said it wasn't released by aliens either.

    None have stated that it was released from a lab, because it wasn't.
    There's no evidence that it was released from a lab, because it wasn't.
    If it was released from a lab, they would say so and there would be evidence.

    And again, the poster I was replying to stated that the virus was artificial.
    Do you believe this? Do you think it's a possibility?
    jackboy wrote: »
    To answer your question about the Covid deaths we would need a definition of a covid death. There are many potential definitions.
    Nope. The definition is pretty clear.
    A covid death is a death caused by covid.

    Do you believe that the numbers are being inflated?

    Please don't do the usual conspiracy theorist thing and dodge questions. They are simple and direct ones.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,087 ✭✭✭jackboy


    King Mob wrote: »
    Nope. The definition is pretty clear.
    A covid death is a death caused by covid.

    Do you believe that the numbers are being inflated?

    Please don't do the usual conspiracy theorist thing and dodge questions. They are simple and direct ones.

    Your wrong about the definition. Deaths are reported as, deaths from Covid, deaths with Covid or deaths related to Covid. There is not clarity.


  • Posts: 25,874 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    jackboy wrote: »
    Your wrong about the definition. Deaths are reported as, deaths from Covid, deaths with Covid or deaths related to Covid. There is not clarity.
    You're dodging questions now.

    From eariler.
    https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/details/deaths
    Deaths with COVID-19 on the death certificate by area
    Total number of deaths since the start of the pandemic of people whose death certificate mentioned COVID-19 as one of the causes. The data are published weekly by the ONS, NRS and NISRA and there is a lag in reporting of at least 11 days because the data are based on death registrations. Only data available for the latest reported date are shown.
    Do you believe that this number is being inflated.
    Yes or no?


    Do you believe that the virus was artificially created?
    Yes or no?

    Do you believe that this is a valid possibility?
    Yes or no?

    If you dodge again, there's no point trying to continue discussing.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,087 ✭✭✭jackboy


    King Mob wrote: »
    You're dodging questions now.

    From eariler.
    https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/details/deaths

    Do you believe that this number is being inflated.
    Yes or no?


    Do you believe that the virus was artificially created?
    Yes or no?

    Do you believe that this is a valid possibility?
    Yes or no?

    If you dodge again, there's no point trying to continue discussing.

    Your gas, I mentioned the possibility that the virus was natural but maybe released from a lab. I never suggested that the virus was artificially created. I have never said that the virus is anything other than natural. Then you start going on about flat earths and aliens.

    I don’t know about the numbers being inflated or not because definition of a covid death varies country to country and also over time. Realistically, it will probably take years of research to get a good picture of how many died from covid. The definition you showed me is actually as clear as mud.


  • Posts: 25,874 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    jackboy wrote: »
    Your gas, I mentioned the possibility that the virus was natural but maybe released from a lab. I never suggested that the virus was artificially created. I have never said that the virus is anything other than natural. Then you start going on about flat earths and aliens.

    I don’t know about the numbers being inflated or not because definition of a covid death varies country to country and also over time. Realistically, it will probably take years of research to get a good picture of how many died from covid. The definition you showed me is actually as clear as mud.
    And I asked you yes or no questions.
    You dodged entirely.

    The post of mine you quoted was replying to a conspiracy theorist be was claiming that the virus was something other than natural.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 44 Wantedbymany


    Harika wrote: »
    Show evidence of that please.

    Download tiktok it's the only platform that is not as harsh on controlling what you see but yet an all before COVID bill gates spotted the threat of tiktok because it exploded over night, then his company oracle put out fake news that the us government was going to ban tiktiok in the USA because of lack of control over content which forced tiktok to sell gates shares , evidence is all around you just look enough and you will find it


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 44 Wantedbymany


    Harika wrote: »
    Show evidence of that please.

    You may not be able to watch this but here goes


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 44 Wantedbymany


    Harika wrote: »
    Show evidence of that please.

    You may not be able to watch this but here goes


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 44 Wantedbymany


    You may not be able to watch this but here goes

    Another screen shot


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 44 Wantedbymany


    Another screen shot

    London


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 44 Wantedbymany


    You may not be able to watch this but here goes

    London


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 44 Wantedbymany


    London

    Italy


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 44 Wantedbymany


    Harika wrote: »
    Show evidence of that please.

    https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/harvard-university-professor-and-two-chinese-nationals-charged-three-separate-china-related before COVID became a huge thing that government page said files of sars cvd19


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,056 ✭✭✭✭AMKC
    Ms



    How could it have said Covid 19 do because it was the WHO who named it that and only after it came out not the Chinese so that has to be fake.

    Live long and Prosper

    Peace and long life.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 44 Wantedbymany


    AMKC wrote: »
    How could it have said Covid 19 do because it was the WHO who named it that and only after it came out not the Chinese so that has to be fake.

    It said Sars cvd19


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 44 Wantedbymany


    It said Sars cvd19

    Who is the world health organisation? Founders ?main people ? President?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,124 ✭✭✭✭Dohnjoe


    Who is the world health organisation? Founders ?main people ? President?

    You previously wrote:
    Charles lieber paid to manufacture your so called virus to disperse protesters in China back when the people rebelled against the new government that was forced upon them by the military coup government that got in to place

    What's your evidence for that?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 44 Wantedbymany


    Dohnjoe wrote: »
    You previously wrote:



    What's your evidence for that?

    I'm sure you can read ? Or do simple searches not on Google because you will find mostly nonsense


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