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The Next Chapter - Being Better Than Most People At Most Things

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 295 ✭✭BeginnerRunner


    3.41km @ 5m 29s avg
    18m 50ish
    83% MHR avg

    This was an angry fartlek as a response to the latest lockdown. There was no real purpose to the run other than to avoid putting my first thru a wall.

    I've had a lot of pleasant love filled runs the last few months which I'm very grateful for, but there was a lot of hate and anger in this one and I just wanted to suffer.

    I run a business in an industry directly effected by today's announcement, so for the third time in 9 months we're closed, all our bills have to be paid, and I won't furlough any of our staff out of principle.

    I said at the start of the second lockdown that if they close everything just so anto and tomo can have some cans in their ma's at xmas, and the kids can assemble on south william street, I'd be apoplectic. And I am. Furious.

    But turns out a bit of anger is good for paces.

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    The break in the middle was so I could go into supervalu to buy myself a bottle of whiskey. Not joking.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,208 ✭✭✭shotgunmcos


    Crap sorry to hear you have been directly affected again. The yoyo must be driving people mental. Good to blow off steam on a run.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 295 ✭✭BeginnerRunner


    Crap sorry to hear you have been directly affected again. The yoyo must be driving people mental. Good to blow off steam on a run.

    Fact. At least I've an unreal home gym set up to take advantage of :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 295 ✭✭BeginnerRunner


    A) Front Squat:
    135kg 3x2

    B) Pause Off The Floor Deadlift:
    135kg 5x2

    C) Comp Bench:
    135kg x1 @8
    137.5kg 5x1

    D) Mid Grip Bench:
    90kg x9
    95kg x9
    100kg x9
    105kg x9 @7.5

    OTHER: (done as supersets)
    DB Curls 15kg 4x12
    Concentration Curls 15kg 4x8

    Good little sesh. Very happy to front squat the way I did.

    Feeling pretty smug about having such a good home gym set up right now.

    #sorrynotsorry


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,831 ✭✭✭Annie get your Run


    There has to be some advantages to #lockdown! Mine's not bad either, for an amateur :D. All I need to do is put everything to good use now!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 295 ✭✭BeginnerRunner


    There has to be some advantages to #lockdown! Mine's not bad either, for an amateur :D. All I need to do is put everything to good use now!

    Yup. Very little work I need to do for the next month so gonna take it as an opportunity to let my wife get out ahead of the year with her biz, and spend it trying to drop as much body fat as possible!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 295 ✭✭BeginnerRunner


    14.48km @ 6m 17s avg
    1hr 31min
    74% MHR avg

    Not really a whole lot to say other than it was a nice pleasant run. Ran down to the junction of strathmore and vico road and turned around and went back. Running back down stratmore road to the beach was COMPLETELY outta control. Didn't realise just how severe the gradient was until the trip down.

    Ignore the HRM for the entire journey, so nice to see I'm starting to intuitively learn the sweet spot.

    Last km was actually 5m 29s at around the same HR and RPE. Dunno what happened but deffo felt "lighter" on it.

    Nice start to the year there.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 295 ✭✭BeginnerRunner


    20 minutes of mobility work
    20 minues of bodyweight conditioning work

    Followed an online workout from a gym this morning. Nice way to get moving after a long run yesterday.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 295 ✭✭BeginnerRunner


    5.10km @ 6m 13s avg
    31m 42s
    74% MHR avg

    That was a lovely run. Felt MUCH stronger than the pace or HR readings suggest. Which is weird.

    Meh. Trying not to think too much about stuff like that. Few more miles in the bank but a much shorter than normal week.

    Weekly Total: 23km - that's off 42km the week before but includes new years day and eve this week

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 295 ✭✭BeginnerRunner


    A) Hang Power Clean:
    40/50/60/70kg x3
    75/80/85/90kg x1
    95kg 2x1

    B) Long Pause Bench:
    130kg x1 @8
    125kg x3 @8.5
    120kg 2x3

    C) Close Grip Bench:
    112.5kg x3
    117.5kg x3
    122.5kg x3 @8
    117.5kg 3x3

    OTHER - done as supersets:
    Pull Ups 5x7
    Chin Ups 5x7

    Felt like doing something different today so added in some hang power cleans. It's been YEARS since I've done them. No idea what my PR is on them, but I have cleaned 147.5kg in the past. I'll just play about with them for the next while during lockdown and see how they go.

    LP Benching and CG benching felt great today. First time under a bar since Thursday so the rest probably explains why.

    Up to 7s on the pulls and chins today, will prolly keep it there for another 2-3 weeks before moving to 8s.

    Nice little stress busting session. Took about an hour.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,208 ✭✭✭shotgunmcos


    Do you do the pull/chins all together? 70 reps is a lot although I hope to hit that on a 20min AMRAP tomorrow.
    What is your max strict for each?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,831 ✭✭✭Annie get your Run


    Must try some hang power cleans tomorrow after class and see what weight I can do, would love to find my notebook from my 'lifting' days. Also have been meaning to get a pull up bar but even back then I couldn't manage chin ups/pull ups but I've been told it's a superb exercise to master, if I keep reading your log enough who knows what I'll buy :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 295 ✭✭BeginnerRunner


    Do you do the pull/chins all together? 70 reps is a lot although I hope to hit that on a 20min AMRAP tomorrow.
    What is your max strict for each?

    Nah they were done after each of the 10 working bench sets so there was a good chunk of recovery between each.

    That being said I got thru the bodyweight portion of the CF workout Cindy in < 20 minutes in June / July so chins under time pressure are ok.

    I did strict dead hang 12 pull ups before christmas at the end of a workout like yesterdays because I felt good and wanted to see where they were at. Chin ups are always slightly ahead so I estimate 15+ there.

    70 sounds real doable - 10 minutes @ 4 EMOM, then 10 minutes @ 3.

    Previously I have also done at least 15 minutes of chin ups @ 3 EMOM with 10kg attached when I'd spent a bit more time focused on them.

    I always find with pull ups and other bodyweight strength exercises if you're a little less greedy at the start of the workout you'll be more than compensated at the end.
    Must try some hang power cleans tomorrow after class and see what weight I can do, would love to find my notebook from my 'lifting' days. Also have been meaning to get a pull up bar but even back then I couldn't manage chin ups/pull ups but I've been told it's a superb exercise to master, if I keep reading your log enough who knows what I'll buy :D

    There's so much you can do to get better at pull ups and chin ups without being able to do one. Timed negatives are probably the best way of getting better at them. Band assisted variations are nice by lack the specificity to see the same rate of progress.

    I'm getting emotionally ready for a lockdown until Paddy's Day, so you may as well pull the trigger.

    (..it's exactly that logic that had me order a Concept 2 Bike Erg today!)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,208 ✭✭✭shotgunmcos


    Nah they were done after each of the 10 working bench sets so there was a good chunk of recovery between each.

    That being said I got thru the bodyweight portion of the CF workout Cindy in < 20 minutes in June / July so chins under time pressure are ok.

    There's so much you can do to get better at pull ups and chin ups without being able to do one. Timed negatives are probably the best way of getting better at them. Band assisted variations are nice by lack the specificity to see the same rate of progress.

    I'm getting emotionally ready for a lockdown until Paddy's Day, so you may as well pull the trigger.

    (..it's exactly that logic that had me order a Concept 2 Bike Erg today!)

    CF Cindy workout is the one I was referring to with the AMRAP. I basically started bodywork and some home DB, KB usage last summer. Got up to 20 strict chin ups max and 15R+9 on Cindy. Last Cindy was 12R at xmas (felt like I had one of the kids wrapped around my waist :o). One of my goals this year is 20R Cindy so that would involve 100 STRICT pull/chin ups. I like EMOM variations too.

    Mrs Shotgun couldn't do a single chin up at the start of December. 3 days a week a couple of sets of slow negative chin ups and band (purple) assisted and she could do a strict pull up by xmas :)

    C2 Bike Erg?! For what purprose? Back in my triathlon days I used a turbo trainer a lot for training but it was also good for a quick warm up or flushing the legs out.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 295 ✭✭BeginnerRunner


    CF Cindy workout is the one I was referring to with the AMRAP. I basically started bodywork and some home DB, KB usage last summer. Got up to 20 strict chin ups max and 15R+9 on Cindy. Last Cindy was 12R at xmas (felt like I had one of the kids wrapped around my waist :o). One of my goals this year is 20R Cindy so that would involve 100 STRICT pull/chin ups. I like EMOM variations too.

    Mrs Shotgun couldn't do a single chin up at the start of December. 3 days a week a couple of sets of slow negative chin ups and band (purple) assisted and she could do a strict pull up by xmas :)

    C2 Bike Erg?! For what purprose? Back in my triathlon days I used a turbo trainer a lot for training but it was also good for a quick warm up or flushing the legs out.

    The EMOM stuff is great for building work capacity on specific movements. Something like sets of 10-12 EMOM for 15-20 minutes with band assistance gradually moving towards less band assistance and bodyweight only for 10 minutes @ 6 to 8 and tren coming back to 20 minutes x3-5 etc could be a really nice progression.

    Got the bike erg for 3 reasons...

    1) I don't like my assault bike for steady effort work and wanna be able to burn some kcals for 30 minutes a few times a week in front of netflix

    2) It's a really easy no brain workout that there's never an excuse not to do

    3) My wife finally accepted having an indoor bike in the gaff would be good for both of us :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 295 ✭✭BeginnerRunner


    8.68km @ 6m 14s avg
    54m 09s
    72% MHR avg

    Strange one today. Felt heavy and clunky from the get go, but HR stayed 2% lower than normal with the splits trending a little lower than normal too all the way around.

    It was a lovely hilly route - down past supervalu and up main street and vevay road past tesco, left to putland road and up and over the head car park before heading back up quinnsborough road and down main street towards home.

    The pull up is fairly severe, but the 6.5% 800m long downhill on putland road is just gloriously fun to relax on.

    Another one in the bank anyway.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 295 ✭✭BeginnerRunner


    5.01km @ 6m 13s
    31m 01s
    74% MHR avg

    I give up.

    I'm not even gonna try estimate how I feel on runs anymore. I felt absolutely rock solid today and was SHOCKED to see my HR reading so high once I got the summary.

    I've started to pick a route so I know how far I'm running, and then turn off any other measure of exertion until I've finished, and then review upon cessation.

    It's been quite liberating not having to worry about HR%s or paces, and instead trust myself enough to operate off feel.

    Gonna lift some things tomorrow, squeeze in a slightly longer run if possible (or wait to Friday) and hopefully see my Bike Erg before the weekend.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,831 ✭✭✭Annie get your Run


    When you say rock solid, what do you mean? Running by feel is definitely a skill to learn (says she who still can't manage it!), for an easy run, if you can talk easily enough and your breathing is calm and steady rather than fast and labored that's possibly more important then a reading on the watch, especially one that's not necessarily that accurate. Plenty of folks here will say they would only rely on HR data from a chest strap.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 295 ✭✭BeginnerRunner


    When you say rock solid, what do you mean? Running by feel is definitely a skill to learn (says she who still can't manage it!), for an easy run, if you can talk easily enough and your breathing is calm and steady rather than fast and labored that's possibly more important then a reading on the watch, especially one that's not necessarily that accurate. Plenty of folks here will say they would only rely on HR data from a chest strap.

    I felt fantastic. Under no pressure at all. Woulda estimated 70-72% MHR based off how it felt.

    I wear a chest strap for all my training so the accuracy is pretty on point I reckon.

    Almost every run seems to come out at 74% average. Like I just default to whatever pace I need to be at to land there.

    I've quite a bit of exp using HRM to pace rowing workouts so the concepts are familiar. I'm just surprised how quickly I've seemed to auto regulate my effort to consistently hit the sweet spot.

    That being said... as soon as any interval or speed based work comes in, I'll no doubt be MILES off.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,762 ✭✭✭ReeReeG


    I was confused at first about what the issue was but I see what you mean now.. Yesterday's run was evening and today's was morning/lunch? There are often HR differences for that reason alone for some people.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,831 ✭✭✭Annie get your Run


    I felt fantastic. Under no pressure at all. Woulda estimated 70-72% MHR based off how it felt.

    I wear a chest strap for all my training so the accuracy is pretty on point I reckon.

    Almost every run seems to come out at 74% average. Like I just default to whatever pace I need to be at to land there.

    I've quite a bit of exp using HRM to pace rowing workouts so the concepts are familiar. I'm just surprised how quickly I've seemed to auto regulate my effort to consistently hit the sweet spot.

    That being said... as soon as any interval or speed based work comes in, I'll no doubt be MILES off.

    Gotcha


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 295 ✭✭BeginnerRunner


    A) Row:
    5 minutes @ R20, avg 2.00.00/500, HR Max = 77%

    B) Warm Up Movements:
    18 minutes worth

    C) 3 Position Hang Power Clean - Tall / ATK / BTK:
    60kg 5x3

    D) HB Squat:
    125kg 4x5

    E) Deadlift:
    160kg 6x3

    F) Larsen Press:
    120kg x1 @ 7.5
    105kg 8x3

    E) 3ct Bench:
    125kg x1 @7.5
    122.5kg x3 @9.5
    117.5kg 2x3

    OTHER - done as supersets:
    Seated Dumbbell Curl 5x10 @ 15kg
    Concentration Curls 5x10 @ 15kg

    Had a bit longer than normal to train, and it was cold AF so did some easy rowing to get moving, and some much needed prehab before jumping under the bar.

    Very happy with my output on the row. Would interested to see what 30r20 would bring.

    The 3 position clean drill is an old favourite and it was amazing how quickly the timing starts to come back.

    Everything else was uneventful. Just work being done.

    Bike Erg arrives tomorrow @ 2pm. Can't wait!!

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 295 ✭✭BeginnerRunner


    BikeErg MAF Test:
    14,066m
    2:07.9/500m @ 78rpm, damper #3.5

    Avg HR:
    71% / 140bpm

    My BikeErg arrived yesterday so as soon as I got home from work, after I said hi to our baby, watched a movie with him, cleaned the kitchen and ordered us some food, I did a MAF test.

    (so, nowhere remotely close to "as soon as I got home from work")

    It's a very very very impressive piece of kit, as you'd expect from C2. It's just rock solid and feels like it'll out last me.

    Because of the global shortage of them, and because I'm extremely impatient - it's an ex demo model that came fully assembled, but with 0m on the clock (..which I ended up paying full whack for). Not having to assemble it, and having it arrive on a pallet ready to ride was nice EXCEPT for the fact they installed the bars upside down.

    I'll turn them around over the next couple of days, tried it this morning but it feels like the torx screws have been put on with an impact driver. The C2 hand driver was flexing in my hand as I tried to remove them.

    HR ended up low - shoulda been 146 avg but I couldn't get it up *ba dum* for the first 3-4 minutes as I fiddled with damper settings. Definitely a much great local muscular fatigue in my legs than anything else.

    It's a baseline set.

    Gonna try do the < 30 minute C2 BikeErg WODs on their website several times per week just to burn more kcals and get some bike specific fitness in.

    Anyway initial report is - great addition to the tool kit, especially now there's snow and ice everywhere.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 295 ✭✭BeginnerRunner


    13.9km @ 6m 25s avg
    1hr 28min
    73% MHR avg

    That was a run from Bray to Blackrock (I know - outside my 5km). MIL was minding the baby while my wife worked, but there was an issue with the car door - it wouldn't close OR open properly. So I said since I had a long run planned today I'd run down to her, take a look and see if I could fix it.

    I reckon the little release catch got shunted around this morning when she opened the door as it was -2 when leaving. A few pokes and a jiggle and all worked ok.

    I was SHOCKED the uphill slog on the N11 to leopardstown. Never noticed it driving. Saw a near 7.00/km split on the way up.

    It was VERY cold today and spent the first few km dodging ice and snow so while the pace was way below normal, it felt great and it was lovely to be out in the crisp morning sun.

    9th day on the trot trainnig. Longest unbroken run of physical in activity in potentially 5-6 years.

    Will likely hop on the bike erg this evening for a spin before having my first beer of the week :o

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,762 ✭✭✭ReeReeG


    I was SHOCKED the uphill slog on the N11 to leopardstown. Never noticed it driving. Saw a near 7.00/km split on the way up.


    It's a long long drag alright! Have run that direction a few times myself.. Also a very boring road!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 295 ✭✭BeginnerRunner


    BikeErg Workout - 5 mins on / 3 mins easy x4

    GSLRie.jpg

    First "proper" workout on the BikeErg today.

    Had wanted to do a run as well but we've been up since 4am and the thought of having to go outside was anxiety inducing.

    So the BikeErg's already serving it's purpose!!

    Spent some time setting up all the various interfaces so now my HR will display on the monitor, the bike automagically connects to ErgData and my online C2 logbook, which will then also upload to Strava and give me the attached screen summary.

    Wife's now on it getting her first workout in. Best lockdown impulse buy ever.

    //

    Training wise for the week, probably a bit disappointing - ran 3x, lifted 2x and bike'd 2x. As I type this I think "WTF - that's amazing, if you suggested that to yourself 4 months ago you'd have laughed at yourself"...

    ...so I guess I take it back!! :D

    Next week should hopefully see me back in a more regular rhythm - goal is 4 runs, 3 lifts and 2-3 bikes.

    TOTAL WEEKLY MILEAGE
    Run - (only) 28km
    BikeErg - 28km*

    *WTF. Didn't plan that!!

    Also, randomly today's workout including light pressure pedalling was 14.09km and the MAF test on Friday was 14.07km.

    Some weird coincidental numbers there.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 295 ✭✭BeginnerRunner


    10.01km @ 6m 22s
    1hr 03min
    73% MHR avg

    Slight variation on a standard route to keep things mildly interesting today. Monday's normally = 8km, so happy to start the week ahead.

    Stuck an audio book on and just trundled along. Still running solo as run buddy was a suspected COVID case (negative) but is suffering the effects of something so we're staying well away from each other until he's back to normal.

    Rough plan is to see another 10k Wednesday, a 5-6k run Thursday and a 15ish-k run Saturday to get me back to me back to about 40km for the week.

    May or may not hop on the bike later - the C2 daily workout is a nice one. Will definitely be lifting things tomorrow.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 295 ✭✭BeginnerRunner


    BikeErg - 10x 2 min on / 1 min easy
    70% MHR avg

    3XBYRs.jpg

    Tried to perfect neg split by .1 today to get a feel for the bike. Nailed it. Almost.

    First round was 2.00.0, second 1.59.8, third 1.59.7 and perfect all the way down to 1.58.9. I blame that first lapse on just not being in the groove.

    Still taking 2.00.0/1,000 as a comfortable pace until I spend more time on the bike. I'm sure I'll attempt a 4,000m TT at some point in the not too distant future (BikeErg equivalent of Row/Ski 2k TT).

    This workout felt much harder than the HR% would suggest. If I was to guess, my MHR on the bike is gonna be a big lower than row / run since my quads would probably fall off before I could get there, for now at least.

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    ...I'm not sure whether to count the number of workouts, or days training. I think I'll just count the workouts. Anything > 30 minutes counts as a workout for the purpose of this.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,208 ✭✭✭shotgunmcos


    Did a lot of cycling and indoor winter turbo/TT in my triathlon days. Cycling hr always lower than running in general. However much 'easier to hold intensity on the bike than running. Unless you are running around a track on a calm warm day. Going to max on either hurts but less wear and tear on the bike.

    With your leg power I'd imagine you will hit 7 mins on your first go! 320 watts for 7 mins on a bike.. would have been a rep from my tri coach


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 295 ✭✭BeginnerRunner


    Did a lot of cycling and indoor winter turbo/TT in my triathlon days. Cycling hr always lower than running in general. However much 'easier to hold intensity on the bike than running. Unless you are running around a track on a calm warm day. Going to max on either hurts but less wear and tear on the bike.

    With your leg power I'd imagine you will hit 7 mins on your first go! 320 watts for 7 mins on a bike.. would have been a rep from my tri coach

    I'd say you're probably right tbh. If I can hold a steady aerobic effort at 2:00.0/1,000m for 5 minute intervals with shortish active recoveries I should really be able to put a bit of a squeeze on and see 1:45 for 7 minutes.

    I don't see myself "training" hard on the BikeErg but I do hope to regularly get some 30 minute workouts in and whatever happens happens.

    I love the idea of going < 7 minutes on all 3 ergs. Currently MILES away on the SkiErg.


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