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And the winner of dreamer of the year is...

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  • unkel wrote: »
    New, where? From Rolex at RRP? :D

    Is that RRP ?
    I’ll get you one for €12600 if you’re interested 😀




  • Do yourself a favour, put it up for sale when you get it, you can make a nice wee profit on it if you can get it at that price :)

    RRP on the black one is €12k. Unworn you should get at least €14k for one. Bigger profit again on the blue

    Do tell though, how are you getting one?




  • unkel wrote: »
    Do yourself a favour, put it up for sale when you get it, you can make a nice wee profit on it if you can get it at that price :)

    RRP on the black one is €12k. Unworn you should get at least €14k for one. Bigger profit again on the blue

    Do tell though, how are you getting one?

    Are dssd selling at a premium ? Any I’d seen on tzuk struggle unless it’s changed recently (the non Cameron )




  • Cyrus wrote: »
    Are dssd selling at a premium ? Any I’d seen on tzuk struggle unless it’s changed recently (the non Cameron )

    I'm no expert and this is just anecdotal (from closely observing a few watch forums / online marketplaces) but all professional steel seem to have picked up hugely in the last few months. Last 4 blue yachtmaster full set excellent condition sold on tzuk for about GBP7k over the last 2 years, then boom up to almost GBP9k now

    Pre-ceramic subs, pretty but flawed compared to modern ones, GBP7k

    Pre-ceramic GMT II for strong money like above

    Indeed all the watches that sold second hand for a good bit under RRP are now up, even the "poor man's" Explorer II, even the black!

    Every single steel sports seems to be jumped upon and selling at full asking price. Lots of lads out there with money in their pocket because of COVID




  • Its not just the covid effect, its that watches in general are more popular than ever. They have transitioned from something you use to something you wear. Instagram, rapper culture and the fact that anyone who get a little success seems to flaunt one has the "watch IQ" pretty high. Talking modern, popular sports watches here.

    We only travel forward in time, and if we look back all we see is the disappointment of deals we missed. I said to you before Unkle....its not TIMING the market, its time IN the market. There is also the fact in Rolex that there have been RRP prices increases every Jan for the last 3 years. 15% up now from 2017. That prices back into the used market.


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  • Fitz II wrote: »
    watches in general are more popular than ever. They have transitioned from something you use to something you wear. Instagram, rapper culture and the fact that anyone who get a little success seems to flaunt one has the "watch IQ" pretty high. Talking modern, popular sports watches here.

    Not sure if there is (yet) any impact on the value of watches, but the brand recognition and desirability of Rolex watches among young people - even very young (pre-)teenagers - is huge because of those reasons. Pretty much confined to Rolex though.








  • Fitz II wrote: »

    It’s not immaculate by any stretch either




  • How does anyone expect to be taken seriously in selling a €10k+ watch, when they can't even take a picture in focus?

    That set of photos makes it look like the worst of Balearic Island specials.

    Baffling.




  • I could never understand that either, though down the years on ebay I got serious bargains on some rare watches because the sellers uploaded pics apparently taken with a potato. In the dark. Bad spellings have helped too. I got one vintage "Lomgines" for under a hundred quid.

    Few enough were innocent in the past, few enough are innocent in the present, we just don’t know why yet.



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  • +1

    Bad ads are the business if you're buying :D




  • Wibbs wrote: »
    I could never understand that either, though down the years on ebay I got serious bargains on some rare watches because the sellers uploaded pics apparently taken with a potato. In the dark. Bad spellings have helped too. I got one vintage "Lomgines" for under a hundred quid.


    Hirsch seems to be a difficult word to spell too.;)

    Best deal I got on ebay was a sliver cigarette case for a fiver, damn thing weighs over 200 grams.

    Bargains are still out there and always will be IMHO.

    If the seat's wet, sit on yer hat, a cool head is better than a wet ar5e.





  • Too many vultures on eBay. The best bargains are right here on adverts.ie :D




  • And back to the watch in the OP. Still for sale, for many months now. Price has been dropping gradually down to €5k. You see people finding the thread, offering an amount and getting rejected unless they state it's for PM. Then a day or two later their accepted offer is cancelled. Obviously the seller wasn't playing ball and still had unrealistic expectations

    The one thing in favour of the seller is that if he keeps this up long enough, he will for sure get his asking price at some stage :p

    The Polar explorer has gone up quite a bit in value recently. I'd say so much so that it has now lost it's "poor man's Rolex" moniker




  • Cheapest Swiss only explorer on c24 is 7.9k. I asked several times in this thread for examples of super cheap ones for sale? Show the links. Where are all these loose head explorers for 4k? Or full sets for 5-6k?

    That’s what’s needed to make him look a dreamer....

    Did you not sell yours for 7k? That two K difference is the bracelet and papers really. His original asking was 5.5. Not dreamer territory really. I think 5k is about right but adverts is not the place for a loose watch. Not sure why you are obsessing over his watch and keep referring back to it.




  • Haha, not obsessed, I have clicked to watch the ad, so any replies to it or any price changes etc. I get a notification

    It's an interesting one to follow as I reckon the Explorer II is probably the professional Rolex series that has been making the most gains of the lot of them in the last 2-3 months. Even Paul Thorpe is now expecting a lot of growth for it for this year and posted it in his video this evening. Already happened Paul :D
    I was fairly lucky to have jumped right in the middle of this rise, I made a substantial gain on the watch in just 3 weeks. Didn't buy to flip it (bought from a dealer anyway), loved the watch, but at 40mm it is just too small for me. So that was the beautiful blue yachtmaster out for me too. And onto the bigger ones...




  • https://www.adverts.ie/22626091

    5111 Patek Gongolo....apart from the lack of desirability, the chrono average on these is 11k....this one on boards from a user that posts a lot of nice watches 17,500. Wow.




  • https://touch.adverts.ie/sports/mens-watch/16848516

    Sweet Jesus. The best part of this is the seller is pleading with you to check a website so you'll believe the price.

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  • That seller is bat **** crazy but picks up some unusual stuff.

    Below was a good one. Is listed a few years at this stage. Think it was up for 5k at the start of I recall.

    https://www.adverts.ie/5902589




  • 893bet wrote: »
    That seller is bat **** crazy but picks up some unusual stuff.

    Below was a good one. Is listed a few years at this stage. Think it was up for 5k at the start of I recall.

    https://www.adverts.ie/5902589

    He has some weird stuff, would love to know the story alright. A wise man pointed out to me that this seller has a very similar attitude to another adverts watch seller of some grumpy renown.


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  • https://www.adverts.ie/22701874

    Weird stuff! And knows how to add his margin!




  • 893bet wrote: »
    https://www.adverts.ie/22701874

    Weird stuff! And knows how to add his margin!
    Maybe it's me, but IMHO that watch has been utterly ruined by the "customisation". Why would anyone pay extra for a custom job that would be laughed out of a Seiko modders forum?

    Few enough were innocent in the past, few enough are innocent in the present, we just don’t know why yet.





  • Wibbs wrote: »
    Maybe it's me, but IMHO that watch has been utterly ruined by the "customisation". Why would anyone pay extra for a custom job that would be laughed out of a Seiko modders forum?

    Nobody does, modded watches are less valuable. Only the seller does seem to have grasped that.....




  • Cyrus wrote: »


    OP41 are red hot. I told you they would be. Particularly the one that I like :D

    Smartest move Rolex have made in decades




  • unkel wrote: »
    OP41 are red hot. I told you they would be. Particularly the one that I like :D

    Smartest move Rolex have made in decades

    Not that red hot you’d get one plenty cheaper on c24




  • Cyrus wrote: »
    Not that red hot you’d get one plenty cheaper on c24

    Over 300 for sale in 41mm on chrono, for a watch only released less than a year thats a very large amount. Only 430 of the 36mm ones out years and years. People are just buying to flip immediately, I think a few euros profit is the thing people desire about that watch.




  • Fitz II wrote: »
    I think a few euros profit is the thing people desire about that watch.

    This is of course nonsense. The reason the turquoise sells for double retail is that it is in high demand and plenty of people are prepared to pay silly money for one. Of course this attracts sellers who bought the watch at retail

    Does any other current Rolex even sell for double retail?




  • 893bet wrote: »
    https://www.adverts.ie/22701874

    Weird stuff! And knows how to add his margin!

    Reminds me of this

    Stephen-Ireland-Range-Rover.jpg


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  • unkel wrote: »
    This is of course nonsense. The reason the turquoise sells for double retail is that it is in high demand and plenty of people are prepared to pay silly money for one. Of course this attracts sellers who bought the watch at retail

    Does any other current Rolex even sell for double retail?

    Daytona


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