Covid 19 Part XXVIII- 71,942 ROI(2,050 deaths) 51,824 NI (983 deaths) (28/11) Read OP

Funsterdelux

Paddygreen wrote: »

Some experts recommend we will have to get our shots every six months or so, so we can update our health passports so in turn we will be allowed do things, like socially distanced socialising for example. Masks, , working from home (if you still have a job) and social distancing will be permanent going forward of course, just in case, fingers crossed and a prayer to St Anthony (the patron saint of lost causes) before we light a candles in the window (preferably not real candles, just in case).. we have to do what we are told to stay safe guys.

Deleted User wrote: »

St Jude is the lost causes dept. (and hopeless cases too I think)

St. Anthony helps you locate something you have lost. He is my go-to man when that happens me.

St. Margaret is also the champion of the lowest wrung in societies ladder.

Thankfully I have not had the need to pray to St Jude or St Margaret, yet!

There you are Paddy, the source of all your woes, you've been praying to the wrong Saint for all those years!

ACitizenErased

ICU down to 42 - 4 discharges and 2 admissions

KrustyUCC

That's good news

you would have to wonder about how the world will be in about a year. New Zealand, Taiwan and parts of Eastern Canada will be like hermit states. The people from these places will not have had any exposure to covid19 so their immunity to the virus will be very low.

As for the rest of the world, we could be facing wave after wave of this thing, particularly if it mutates and becomes immune to vaccines.

wadacrack

https://twitter.com/vincekearney/status/1323627051618807808

100 more in hospital with Covid in the North compared to South. They are probably missing lots of cases with their testing given that we have had similar numbers

eagle eye

Deleted User wrote:

you would have to wonder about how the world will be in about a year. New Zealand, Taiwan and parts of Eastern Canada will be like hermit states. The people from these places will not have had any exposure to covid19 so their immunity to the virus will be very low.

If they keep.up what they're at then their countries will be covid free so they won't have to worry about it.

Deleted User wrote:

As for the rest of the world, we could be facing wave after wave of this thing, particularly if it mutates and becomes immune to vaccines.

I'm pretty confident that all the scientists and other medical experts working on this will find a vaccine.It may be one you need every six or twelve months but it'll be found.
Also if nothing works I'm quite confident every country will follow the path of the countries you mentioned and eventually achieve covid free status.

seamus

Deleted User wrote: »

As for the rest of the world, we could be facing wave after wave of this thing, particularly if it mutates and becomes immune to vaccines.

There's a good chance we will face another couple of waves of this thing.

Virus epidemics tend to have a shelf-life of around two years (+/-) anyway unless they become endemic illnesses that continuously evolve like influenza.

"Immune to vaccines" isn't very likely. Like influenza, once we prove the efficiacy of a coronavirus vaccine, tweaking it to suit a new strain is a lot simpler and doesn't require massive long testing processes.

OwenM

seamus wrote: »

There's a good chance we will face another couple of waves of this thing.

Virus epidemics tend to have a shelf-life of around two years (+/-) anyway unless they become endemic illnesses that continuously evolve like influenza.

"Immune to vaccines" isn't very likely. Like influenza, once we prove the efficiacy of a coronavirus vaccine, tweaking it to suit a new strain is a lot simpler and doesn't require massive long testing processes.

Any of the reading I've done suggests mutations aren't of concern with this virus, don't fully understand this, I have read however that the WHO state it is endemic.

OwenM

OwenM wrote: »

Any of the reading I've done suggests mutations aren't of concern with this virus, don't fully understand this, I have read however that the WHO state it is endemic.

I wonder how long it will take our immune system to evolve to be able to fight this virus, like we do with the flu.

I have heard that if we take vitamin C, vitamin D and Zinc regularly we will stand a better chance, same as the flu really (bar the zinc)

blowitupref

wadacrack wrote: »

https://twitter.com/vincekearney/status/1323627051618807808

100 more in hospital with Covid in the North compared to South. They are probably missing lots of cases with their testing given that we have had similar numbers

Loads of cases missed in the NI, was a simliar situation in March, April in the ROI.

mloc123

blowitupref wrote: »

Loads of cases missed in the NI, was a simliar situation in March, April in the ROI.

I guess their positivity rate is now *only* 21%... improved slightly

stephenjmcd

391 positive swabs from 10,494.

3.73% positivity

seamus

10,494 tests. 391 Positive. 3.73% positivity. 7-day rate down to 4.74%

Waiting for Swabs

JDD

Well, had our first household Covid test today. The 3 year old has to go under a GA to get his two front teeth out on Thursday, and therefore had to have a covid test before being admitted for the surgery.

It wasn't the worst in the world - he's a grumpy f**ker at the best of times and certainly does not like dentists or doctors, so kicked up a big fuss the minute he got in the room for the test. So it was hard to know how uncomfortable the test was for him, or whether he was roaring for the very indignity of having a swab put in his mouth. Still, the swab was done in less than a second and he was grand about a minute later (once he got some crisps).

What I was confused about was that the creche won't let him come back until he gets the result of the covid test back. He has no symptoms, and is not being tested because he is a close contact. He simply got the test because that is a pre-requisite before having the surgery on Thursday. He wouldn't have had the test at all if it hadn't been because he had to have the dental surgery done. I rang the creche head office and they said they were a misunderstanding and he could go back tomorrow.

OwenM

OwenM wrote: »

Any of the reading I've done suggests mutations aren't of concern with this virus, don't fully understand this, I have read however that the WHO state it is endemic.

The mutation rate of the virus is quite low. Coronaviruses have a "proofreading" mechanism that reduces errors in the copying process. The virus has a rate about half that of Influenza and a quarter of that of HIV. It's quite stable

manofwisdom

seamus wrote: »

10,494 tests. 391 Positive. 3.73% positivity. 7-day rate down to 4.74%

Be nice to get a reported case number this evening close to that swab count than have 200 or 300 backlog cases added in.

Lowest 7 day positivity rate for 3 and a half weeks.

is_that_so

seamus wrote: »

10,494 tests. 391 Positive. 3.73% positivity. 7-day rate down to 4.74%

So now "under control" below 5%!

wadacrack

Amazing WHO have not declared the virus airborne. Ventilation in risky settings could help significantly mitigate the risks of transmission

https://twitter.com/covidisairborne/status/1323341763453587459

ACitizenErased

Looking at less than 400 so as long as they don't pull some swabs out of their back sides.

Non solum non ambulabit

is_that_so wrote: »

So now "under control" below 5%!

Until we add in the additional 400 cases later

Wolf359f

ACitizenErased wrote: »

Looking at less than 400 so as long as they don't pull some swabs out of their back sides.

Last 21 day Swabs vs last 20 days Cases announced:
18621 vs 18760
That 139 more cases than swabs, I know there's been some cases denotified in the past 21 days, but hard to see where they are finding these extra cases.

I know some may be private testing, would be nice to know how many are and if the number of tests conducted by private operators is notified also, otherwise the positivity rate would be artificially high.

7 day average swab number below 600. In spring swabs fell from below 600 to below 100 in 4 weeks. Positive swabs falling just as fast now as then

Marty Bird

stephenjmcd wrote: »

391 positive swabs from 10,494.

3.73% positivity

1277 cases to be announced so :rolleyes:

Wolf359f

[Deleted User] wrote: »

7 day average swab number below 600. In spring swabs fell from below 600 to below 100 in 4 weeks. Positive swabs falling just as fast now as then

What's interesting is, back early in the year the positivity rate was nearly 4x the current peaks rate and we all agree many multiples of cases where missed back in March/April.
Many countries in Europe are reporting as high a positivity rate as we had first wave, meaning they have to be missing just as many cases second time around, but this time around they are reporting over 4x the case numbers, I fear it's going to be a grim winter for many European countries.

Rob A. Bank

Another blow to the GAA plan for the Football Championship...

Seven positive Covid-19 cases in the Sligo football panel and more players being tested.

iamwhoiam

Rob A. Bank wrote: »

Another blow to the GAA plan for the Football Championship...

Seven positive Covid-19 cases in the Sligo football panel and more players being tested.

I genuinely don’t understand why they are allowed play . 15 sweaty hands touching the same ball and then going home to their families spreading it about

is_that_so

UK pilot in Liverpool with rapid tests.

The pilot will start this week and will include a mix of existing swab tests and new lateral flow tests, which can provide a result within an hour without the need to use a lab.

https://www.bbc.com/news/health-54786130

El Weirdo

Rob A. Bank wrote: »

Another blow to the GAA plan for the Football Championship...

Seven positive Covid-19 cases in the Sligo football panel and more players being tested.

Speaking as a Sligo man, having them not being able to field a team in the championship is far from a blow.

eagle eye

Sweden, who many claimed had the right approach to dealing with the virus, have 10,177 new cases and 31 deaths since Friday.