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No. You literally have a course rating and slope rating for the holes played and your handicap based on the indexes for the holes played. So everything is already pro-rata giving an accurate score differential. Here's an example of how it would look on a handicap record Note that the playing handicap is calculated for the nine holes in question and the score differential is within the same ball park without any doubling or other manipulation.hurleronditch wrote: »Is it multiplied by 2 to make it equivalent to an 18 hole score then?
If I play 9 in 5 over for a net differential of 4, in handicap terms that should surely be equivalent to an ND of 8, not 4
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They're right and wrong at the same time.spacecoyote wrote: »I sent a message to our committee guys on this, as I played team comps, that were, in essence, stableford comps 2 weeks in a row.
Was told an answer of NO, citing the following:
Scores for handicap purposes can only be played in individual stroke play format and can be in competition or casual round format as per Rule 2.1a of the Congu Rules of Handicapping.
That's the rule for acceptable formats of play for handicapping purposes under WHS/Golf Ireland. They're taking the strict view that the score you put in in the team competition is not acceptable for handicap purposes. This is correct.
However (as I said above - and now elaborating on), you can fill out a separate card on the day for yourself and play the team competition according to the rules of singles play and submit that card as a GP score attested by one of your partners.
We have done this at our club under CONGU where members are playing in the club matchplay comps on days when club competitions are being run and entering their score from the matchplay in the club comp. Obviously no gimmes etc. Singles (or fourball) matchplay are not currently acceptable formats for handicap, but it's perfectly acceptable to do it this way.0 -
prawnsambo wrote: »They're right and wrong at the same time.
That's the rule for acceptable formats of play for handicapping purposes under WHS/Golf Ireland. They're taking the strict view that the score you put in in the team competition is not acceptable for handicap purposes. This is correct.
However (as I said above - and now elaborating on), you can fill out a separate card on the day for yourself and play the team competition according to the rules of singles play and submit that card as a GP score attested by one of your partners.
We have done this at our club under CONGU where members are playing in the club matchplay comps on days when club competitions are being run and entering their score from the matchplay in the club comp. Obviously no gimmes etc. Singles (or fourball) matchplay are not currently acceptable formats for handicap, but it's perfectly acceptable to do it this way.
Is it not against the rules of golf to double up formats of play or discouraged as the rules can be quite different?.0 -
As I said. You must play by the rules of singles golf. So long as you do that, you're fine. And you can quite easily play matchplay under those rules. You can be given gimmes for the matchplay, but must hole out for the stroke/stableford score. Can lead to some interesting outcomes like getting a gimme and then missing the putt.Is it not against the rules of golf to double up formats of play or discouraged as the rules can be quite different?. 0 -
prawnsambo wrote: »As I said. You must play by the rules of singles golf. So long as you do that, you're fine. And you can quite easily play matchplay under those rules. You can be given gimmes for the matchplay, but must hole out for the stroke/stableford score. Can lead to some interesting outcomes like getting a gimme and then missing the putt.
Yea I have done that before but stopped doing it as i prefer to concentrate on the match. Below is all i could find on the RANDA website. You dont even have to bother with the gimmes as they have to putt out anyway, but i suppose they wouldnt give any back in that case.
The combining of match play and stroke play is discouraged as certain Rules are substantially different between the two formats. But there will be times when players either request to combine the two forms of play or, having done so on their own, request a ruling. The Committee should make its best efforts to support players at these times and should use the following guidelines in doing so.
If a Committee chooses to allow players to play a match while competing in a stroke-play competition, it is recommended that the players be advised that the Rules for stroke play apply throughout. For example, no concessions are allowed and if one player plays out of turn, the other does not have the option of recalling the stroke.0 -
prawnsambo wrote: »They're right and wrong at the same time.
That's the rule for acceptable formats of play for handicapping purposes under WHS/Golf Ireland. They're taking the strict view that the score you put in in the team competition is not acceptable for handicap purposes. This is correct.
However (as I said above - and now elaborating on), you can fill out a separate card on the day for yourself and play the team competition according to the rules of singles play and submit that card as a GP score attested by one of your partners.
We have done this at our club under CONGU where members are playing in the club matchplay comps on days when club competitions are being run and entering their score from the matchplay in the club comp. Obviously no gimmes etc. Singles (or fourball) matchplay are not currently acceptable formats for handicap, but it's perfectly acceptable to do it this way.
Ok, so we could have entered into the fourball via the computer, and logged a casual round via the app...theoretically, assuming we played under singles stableford conditions. I'd assumed that would be the case, but took the guidance of the committee and didnt enter the casual rounds0 -
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prawnsambo wrote: »Yeah, it's not ideal as they are two very different mindsets and even approaches to each shot. But it can be often the case that members have to play their matchplay rounds on weekends when a competition is on and this could be an important comp that they want to enter. So committees should allow this with the proviso that they insist on singles rules of play.
The problem too you have to call your opponent on everything as you have a duty to protect the field rather than just worry about the impact to the match. In stroke play you would be expecting the player to call penalties on himself but in match play you are always watching to ensure they don't get an advantage. It can get a bit tense quickly and no great for any playing partners
Also it also can slow the field down as you could have to finish holes out in a field playing stableford. I've won a hole with an 11 before but I could imagine the group behind in a stableford comp not being too happy watching that sh1te :pac:0
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