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Who is Ireland's worst journalist?

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  • Registered Users Posts: 624 ✭✭✭COVID


    That cycling dude Paul Kimmage
    Bitter and sour

    Two things.

    1) Love 'That cycling dude', very Lebowski!

    2) I think Kimmage deserves not a little credit for his unrelenting criticism of drug-cheat Lance Armstrong...long before it was the popular thing to say.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 154 ✭✭Nexytus


    storker wrote: »
    it's not his job to offer solutions.
    storker wrote: »
    I'm not saying that journalists shouldn't offer solutions


    I'm glad you've found where you were wrong there.


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,646 ✭✭✭storker


    Nexytus wrote: »
    I'm glad you've found where you were wrong there.

    These two statements are not contradictory. See if you can figure out why not...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 154 ✭✭Nexytus


    storker wrote: »
    These two statements are not contradictory. See if you can figure out why not...


    It's not hard to figure out that you backtracked into safe vague territory when you couldn't stand over your point.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,570 ✭✭✭vriesmays


    The one who bought the Celtic Tiger apartment.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 5,646 ✭✭✭storker


    Nexytus wrote: »
    It's not hard to figure out that you backtracked into safe vague territory when you couldn't stand over your point.

    So you couldn't figure it out. Pity, but hardly surprising. Let me put it another way. There's a difference between:

    1. It is not a requirement for journalists to offer solutions

    and

    2. Journalists must not offer solutions.

    I take position 1 i.e. if a journalist wants to propose a solution, then great, but the lack of a solution does not mean that the issue identified by a journalist can just be airily dismisses with a vague handwave.

    But I suspect you knew that.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 154 ✭✭Nexytus


    storker wrote: »
    So you couldn't figure it out. Pity, but hardly surprising. Let me put it another way. There's a difference between:

    1. It is not a requirement for journalists to offer solutions

    and

    2. Journalists must not offer solutions.

    I take position 1 i.e. if a journalist wants to propose a solution, then great, but the lack of a solution does not mean that the issue identified by a journalist can just be airily dismisses with a vague handwave.

    But I suspect you knew that.


    You addressed a post that said a particular journalist never offered solutions.
    You defended the journalist's approach saying it wasn't his job.

    You couldn't stand over that so you changed to well he can occasionally not offer a solution and it's not against the law to not.

    As I said backtracked.


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,646 ✭✭✭storker


    Nexytus wrote: »
    You addressed a post that said a particular journalist never offered solutions.
    You defended the journalist's approach saying it wasn't his job.

    You couldn't stand over that so you changed to well he can occasionally not offer a solution and it's not against the law to not.

    As I said backtracked.

    Well, I can explain it to you, but I can't understand it for you. You're own your own there. :rolleyes:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 154 ✭✭Nexytus


    storker wrote: »
    Well, I can explain it to you, but I can't understand it for you. You're own your own there. :rolleyes:


    Try not to mess up your sentences and miss words when you're trying to be smart ass.


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,646 ✭✭✭storker


    Nexytus wrote: »
    Try not to mess up your sentences and miss words when you're trying to be smart ass.

    Ah yes, the old clutching at grammatical straws ploy. We're done here.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 6,191 ✭✭✭RandomViewer


    I can barely even name a journalist. Not sure why I'm supposed to care about their opinions.

    Most real Irish journalists are reporting who got done for no tax at the local courthouse, the national press are populated by preening narcissistic z list wannabe celebrities calling themselves journalists.


  • Registered Users Posts: 13,505 ✭✭✭✭Mad_maxx


    Philip o Connor

    He's actually an advocate for not listening to many opinions and views ,he's effectively anti journalism

    Biggest wanker on Twitter, Nazi's everywhere according to the bould philip


  • Registered Users Posts: 13,505 ✭✭✭✭Mad_maxx


    Paul Williams. Pretends to be hard hitting but is just a romance writer about criminals.

    Actually his job is shilling for the guards his stories about crime are just what some guard told him


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 154 ✭✭Nexytus


    storker wrote: »
    Ah yes, the old clutching at grammatical straws ploy. We're done here.

    You were done when you made the idiotic point that journalists should be naysayers with positive or constructive ideas. You can keep posting evasions and insults but you can't delete that embarrassingly stupid post you made.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 95 ✭✭CharlesMartel


    I would say Ian Bailey is the worst journalist. His reporting of that Schull murder seems to have dropped into decades of trouble and a French court conviction too


  • Registered Users Posts: 162 ✭✭mayo londoner


    Roy Curtis, comes out with some ****e


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,939 ✭✭✭trashcan


    Anyone remember Paul Hyland ? Oh, and Cathal Dervan, before he went on to become John Delaneys mouthpiece. Is Dervan still at the FAI ?


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    I am going out on a limb here, but in terms of best journalists (or at least the ones I enjoy/enjoyed reading over the years):

    Tom Humphries - the guy was a joy to read.
    David McWilliams - I love the way he tells the story of modern Ireland, very relatable but also he is very forward looking and I love his ideas even if they can sometimes be a bit madcap.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 263 ✭✭PatrickSmithUS


    I am going out on a limb here, but in terms of best journalists (or at least the ones I enjoy/enjoyed reading over the years):

    Tom Humphries - the guy was a joy to read.
    David McWilliams - I love the way he tells the story of modern Ireland, very relatable but also he is very forward looking and I love his ideas even if they can sometimes be a bit madcap.


    Malachy Clerkin, Paul Kimmage and Keith Duggan are love to read.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 763 ✭✭✭doublejobbing 2


    Has to be Sorcha Pollak of the IT.

    Has on at least two occasions done interviews with people in the asylum system who don't even bother to make up a story about having fled any sort of oppression. Outright state they are here for reasons of personal convenience. This fraud of a journalist doesn't even see the contradiction.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 13,505 ✭✭✭✭Mad_maxx


    Has to be Sorcha Pollak of the IT.

    Has on at least two occasions done interviews with people in the asylum system who don't even bother to make up a story about having fled any sort of oppression. Outright state they are here for reasons of personal convenience. This fraud of a journalist doesn't even see the contradiction.

    She's an activist posing as a journalist

    Ellen coyne is another one


  • Registered Users Posts: 11,113 ✭✭✭✭castletownman


    topnotch wrote: »
    Paul Kimmage **** stirrer extraordinare.

    I have seen so many people laud him for his interview pieces in Sunday Independent.

    But when you read them, it's literally a transcript from the Dictaphone or whatever means he recorded the interview:

    PK: "Really?"

    Random sports star: "Yeah"

    PK: "How did you feel"

    RSS: "It hurt".

    PK: "I say it did".

    Then it's some transcript from one of his earlier pieces, or a quote from a book.

    Repeated ad nauseam.

    Groundbreaking.


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,875 ✭✭✭Edgware


    I am going out on a limb here, but in terms of best journalists (or at least the ones I enjoy/enjoyed reading over the years):

    Tom Humphries - the guy was a joy to read.
    David McWilliams - I love the way he tells the story of modern Ireland, very relatable but also he is very forward looking and I love his ideas even if they can sometimes be a bit madcap.

    Humphries was great at covering camogie


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,875 ✭✭✭Edgware


    Most real Irish journalists are reporting who got done for no tax at the local courthouse, the national press are populated by preening narcissistic z list wannabe celebrities calling themselves journalists.

    We read and hear them all today bull****ting about results in Wisconsin and the Rust Belt. They couldn't find th U.S.A. on a map


  • Registered Users Posts: 487 ✭✭Jim Root


    COVID wrote: »


    Two things.

    1) Love 'That cycling dude', very Lebowski!

    2) I think Kimmage deserves not a little credit for his unrelenting criticism of drug-cheat Lance Armstrong...long before it was the popular thing to say.

    That aside Kimmage does come accross like a right prick from time to time; particularly on Twitter.


  • Registered Users Posts: 624 ✭✭✭COVID


    Jim Root wrote: »
    That aside Kimmage does come accross like a right prick from time to time; particularly on Twitter.

    I'll have to take your word for that as I'm not on Twitter.

    But, back then, there were not many journalists who would directly confront Lance Armstrong in this manner:




  • Registered Users Posts: 4,086 ✭✭✭Bambaata


    Brendan O'Connor, if I see his name in the paper I dump the paper. Hate the hunt


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,718 ✭✭✭MyPeopleDrankTheSoup


    This thread seems to be what journalist views annoy me the most. I can't stand Una Mullaly but I think she can actually write pretty well. She just talks a lot of sh! Worst journalist for me is probably louise o'neill. Sh views and sh prose.


  • Registered Users Posts: 989 ✭✭✭Doc07


    COVID wrote: »
    I'll have to take your word for that as I'm not on Twitter.

    But, back then, there were are not many journalists who would directly confront Lance Armstrong in this manner:



    The two lads either side of Lance remind me of the FAI gimps sitting beside John Delaney in the Dail. Looking awkward as they know their man is full of ****.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 14,375 ✭✭✭✭Arghus


    David Quinn.

    The man is a nutter.

    He pops up occasionally in the Covid briefings to ask the most half baked and stupid questions, which only further confirms my opinion of him.

    Not a fan of Ian O' Doherty - an enormous windbag - or Barry Egan.

    Not surprised to see Fintan O' Toole getting piles of hate. Exactly the type to anger the masses on anonymous internet message boards. I personally don't mind that muchand think he's usually more right than wrong, but I think he writes from a self righteous point of view and is painfully right-on without actually being all that radical.


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