Tesla Model 3 - V3.0

slave1

As others said, no levels, just on or off and aggressive, you'll get used to it in days and soon be predicting when to ease off the accelerator to stop at desired spot

AndyBoBandy

3rd Trade in offer received today for the car (March 2020 White SR+) from Tesla...

November 2020 - 16,000km - €37,000

February 2022 - 48,000km - €39,000

August 2022 - 63,000km - €44,000

Thumper Long

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119505969#Comment_119505969

They’ll be paying you to drive a new m3 if you keep it up

wassie

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119505285#Comment_119505285

Tesla did a software update earlier this year addressing this year. See article below for best explanation.

For Tesla, Autopilot adds another layer to regenerative braking since it is controlled automatically when using the traffic-aware cruise control feature. Autopilot uses both the regenerative braking and the regular brake pads, but it can always improve the balance for efficiency.

https://electrek.co/2022/01/25/tesla-releases-autopilot-software-update-better-regenerative-braking-higher-efficiency/

Gumbo

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119506045#Comment_119506045

They paid me to get out of a 2016 MSP and into a 2020 M3P! 🤣🤣

slave1

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119505969#Comment_119505969

Well? Decision? €10k to jump up two years?

wassie

I would of thought its pretty obvious Andys going to need 6 figures on the odometer in order to get any where near a decent trade-in.

Thumper Long

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119506053#Comment_119506053

Nice work if you can get it

AndyBoBandy

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119506376#Comment_119506376

That’s the thing…… if it’s €44k now, who’s to say it wound be €47k in 3-4 months!!!!!

wassie

Those free SuC miles youve got left are worth more than the cost of the charging now.

Your going to be telling your grandkids this story one day I suspect.

dbloke

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119506615#Comment_119506615

Trading in my March 2020 SR+ for €47,695. Only has 10k km on it. They are basically letting me swap it for a brand new one!

ELM327

They are going to have a lot of used cars to sell. Maybe that's their aim?

My model X75D is going to be there too!

AndyBoBandy

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119509500#Comment_119509500

Probably keep a few as loaners too......

JonathonS

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119493023#Comment_119493023

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119493622#Comment_119493622

You are happy to pay for a feature that doesn't work, me not so much. But you are missing the point. Uncooperative self-parking is the symptom, not the disease. Tesla used a 3rd party system that worked, but then abandoned it for their own in-house version that doesn't. The knock-on effects of that decision includes phantom braking - not so easily dismissed. AP2 has been a regression vs AP1, and raises questions about Tesla's s/w development capabilities.

ELM327

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119513058#Comment_119513058

I agree. AP1 is still for the most part superior to AP >=2. That is until you get to the FSD betas that are in the US.

Gumbo

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119509500#Comment_119509500

When I traded mine in they told me they were trying to build up their used car side of things and get into that market properly.

Ivefoundgod

Am in the process of getting myself in a place where if M3 comes into stock i can put down a deposit, have another deposit down but dealer is gone quiet for september delivery. Looks like I can only get the M3 with metallic paint and keep it under the 60k for the grant but have a couple of queries on the M3;

1. Is it possible to have the M3 with enhanced autopilot and keep it under the grant?
2. Is the enhanced autopilot worth it?

Was hoping to get one with midnight grey and the enhanced autopilot but that brings it over the grant as far as I can see. Seems like any extra like the white/black seats bring it over the grant too once you have the €1200 paint selected.

Thumper Long

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119515055#Comment_119515055

Not sure on the benefits of EAP but don’t buy it with the car you can buy it from the app once you have the car, correct you can only have one of metallic paint, 19s or a white interior for under 60K

...Ghost...

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119515055#Comment_119515055

EAP is your own choice, but don’t buy it until AFTER you take delivery. Otherwise you don’t get the grant. You can buy it anytime after you take the car home.

I haven’t considered any autopilot upgrades at this stage. The current price is too high for what you get, but you lock in the price for whatever future updates come with it.

Ivefoundgod

Thanks @Thumper Long and @...Ghost... thats great to know. Didn't realise that at all. I may not pull the trigger but just following the threads here it seems that M3s are more readily available than I thought and if i get let down on the other deposit i have down it would be nice to have the option to jump on one of these in September if one pops up.

AndyBoBandy

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119515055#Comment_119515055

1. Yes, just wait until you have collected the car before buying EAP - It's only a software unlock as all cars have the hardware as standard.
2. No. basically it's only summon, which is a nice party trick, but thats really it.... if you want it to 'auto' lane change, you still need to prompt it... waste of money even if it was only €1,000

If you order EAP or FSD at time of ordering, it not only throws you over the grant threshold, but you also pay VRT on the EAP/FSD cost, so unless you have money to burn, nobody should be adding it on at time of order..... just wait until you collect the car, and order it there and then via the app and within minutes it will be activated in the car.

innrain

Once you have the car you can get to try the EAP and if you don't like it you have 48? h to change your mind. Also there is talk of a subscription which may land here. In the US they already have it for $99? a month. I got EAP after a year of ownership knowing it is mostly a gimmick. I use it for long ish drives sometimes on Fridays on M50. . Auto lange change works in this sequence :

AP suggests a lane change-> Driver making sure it is safe to change lane-> Driver indicates and keeps hands on the wheel -> AP changes lane and switches off the indicator.

It is not perfect and will not reach the level of smoothness a driver can reach. Sometimes it suggests changing to the left when it is clearly going to be stuck behind a slow car. My gripe with it is that the acceleration when overtaking is pretty faint and braking quite late. However, when driving for hours few minutes in a more relaxed state can be valuable.

Ivefoundgod

Thanks @AndyBoBandy Small follow up, whats the boot space like for use as a family car? Would have fairly big buggy/travel system thing going in there as well as other bits and pieces that go along with a newborn.

innrain

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119515852#Comment_119515852

https://youtu.be/8F6M7ZcVVOQ

Check this out

mfceiling

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119515852#Comment_119515852

Brought my brother in law, his wife and 2 teenage sons to the airport this summer. 2 large suitcases, a couple of small suitcases, rucksacks and her handbag in the boot. No issues. Majority of the journey was him looking around the car saying "I can't believe it took the bags so easily". He wanted me to take his 3 series estate. No need!!

Zurbaran

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119515169#Comment_119515169

They are available now but they won’t be very soon is my guess.

JOL1

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119515852#Comment_119515852

Book a test drive and answer all your questions. If one pops up in inventory it will disappear as quick as it arrived for any of the RWD models. With standard wheels you can get any colour with the exception of Red and still qualify for the SEAI grant of 5K.

Ivefoundgod

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119515898#Comment_119515898

Thanks for the video though this is a pretty bad advertisement for it being a suitable family car if you have small kids. Messing around with the ISOFIX is a faff and it doesn't really have much boot space when the buggy is in the car, roughly the same as my current C Class. It wouldn't put me off massively as we'd only have a newborn so only one car seat but if I had a newborn and a slightly older child this video would put me right off.

@JOL1 & @Zurbaran yeah i know i'll need to be quick but until i get confirmation that my initial order isn't arriving in September I can't do much on the Tesla side so will just have to hope I get lucky. If not i might just order one for January anyway though that will depend if theres any other EVs available really.

AndyBoBandy

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119516974#Comment_119516974

Just an FYI, there won’t be any January cars. The earliest delivery slots in the year for Tesla are from March onwards. So the 1st 231 Tesla’s will be From early March onwards.

regarding space in the Model 3, I came from a 2006 3 Series saloon, and the amount of extra space in the Tesla is massive compared to the BMW. We survived in the BMW with 1 baby with buggies etc all the way up to booster seat…. and it was no issue. With an older kid all your gonna have is a booster seat, so for 2 kids I’d say you’d have no issues. (We came back from a 3 week holiday to Europe a few weeks ago, so the car was fairly packed with suitcases, bags coolers etc…, and we stopped off and bought 10 cases of wine before getting the ferry home, and I could have fit 10 more!!!)

Your best bet is to go out to Sandyford or Mahon Point, and try and fit all your stuff into the display car, or else book a test drive and bring all the kid stuff with you.

The Boot is Huuuge!!!

...Ghost...

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119516974#Comment_119516974

I agree, that video was a terrible example of how the space can be used. You'd spend longer faffing around with the boot floor cover than just removing the stroller wheels and then you'd have oodles of space.

I prefer the isofix points in the M3 as they are neater. Same as my Leaf. I hate those plastic isofix covers in cars, such as the i4.

With regards to your order, I was in a similar position. I had a Leaf 24 on order from March for delivery in July, which was delayed til October but with no promise of delivery. I wasn't willing to wait longer and risk losing the SEAI grant (which could be scrapped in the budget), so I chanced my arm and ordered a M3 only 3 weeks ago. I'm taking delivery on the 7th of Sep. I cancelled my Leaf on Friday. Reminds me...I need to ring about my deposit return.