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Would you date someone outside your race?

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    #32
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    Wibbs wrote: »
    Race is an outmoded concept. Populations would be far more accurate. They generally follow the old racial definitions, but it's far more accurate. EG If you say "African" which population? Africa has the highest human genetic diversity on the planet. Makes sense as that's where modern humans sprang up and spread from. You could have two "Black" Africans living 100 miles apart that have the same outward physical traits but are more genetically diverse than a Swede and a Greek.

    One race- the human race. But a lot of ethnicities. I first heard this distinction 30 years ago- I can't understand how someone (the OP) is still using this out dated and clearly wrong description of the diversity aspects of the human race.

    As for the question, yes I would.

    However, I think things like religious differences and biases and rules would simply prevent most Irish males from the opportunity of dating someone like a woman from a strict muslim background- they just wouldn't encounter this person in normal social settings.

    Poverty is the next factor. A lot of the world is poor compared to European/western countries. So again, the opportunity just doesn't present itself in a daily setting- or if it does, it's through the "Thai bride" or "Gambia Husband" route.

    Cultural differences-- may also prevent opportunities - nothing to do with physical differences, more attitudinal differences, leading to less opportunity to meet in a social setting (like a bar) for instance.

    Up to 40 years ago, the vast majority of Irish people could trace their ancestry back to this very island for many generations. Things a changing now and we're slowly becoming more culturally and ethnically diverse.

    Children are growing up with friends whose origins are reaching far and wide, way beyond Cork and Donegal. In workplaces, diversity of ethnicity is also increasing- as people socialise after work, relationships inevitably develop.

    I think in Ireland, while there are more opportunities to meet people from diverse backgrounds than ever before, it's still a lot less than you'd find in say, England, or France. Opportunity, and not attitude, is probably the biggest barrier for such relationships to develop.


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    #33
    IAMAMORON
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    Wibbs wrote: »
    Funny enough I'm the opposite. I prefer the differences. Small ones anyway. In the sense of say me and an Italian. We'd be close enough so living there or here wouldn't be nearly the learning curve as me and I dunno a Fijian I also prefer a different shared experience that I can learn from. In some ways my idea of purgatory is someone having the same background to me, where there's bugger all to explore.

    Foreign partners can be gorgeous. But they can also be difficult to please and I said only Irish people really really get Irishness.

    For sure I will date an Italian, French, Swedish, Polish, Russian, Hungarian, Romanian or a German for a while. But they don't get it. An Irish partner does.

    I dated a girl from Haiti when I was in the States. She was lovely and a total bear in the sack, but she never understood the drinking, albeit she had no problem smoking the bong. But we didn't mix seamlessly. We were not a great fit.


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    #34
    PCeeeee
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    440Hertz wrote: »
    Did I just stumble into 1950s Alabama here ?!

    Of course I’d go out with (we don’t “date” in Ireland ...) someone outside my own ethnic background and I have done and it posed far, far fewer cultural barriers than that time I went out with a redhead from Mayo tbh.

    People are people and cultures and attitudes vary. If you don’t get on with someone, don’t go out with them. Their race is just a superficial thing. Who they are, whether they’re good craic, whether you click and whether you share common ways of seeing the world are nothing to do with ethnicity.

    Personally, I’m not into people who are very hardcore religious, hold extreme political views and social conservatives for example, mostly because I can’t be dealing with dogmatic beliefs but that’s not about race.

    Go out with whoever it is you click with! Have a laugh and enjoy life. It’s far too short to be droaning on about racial prejudices.

    This. I was trying to respond but this


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    #35
    Tar.Aldarion
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    This is all a bit premature, wait until we have more data on this water under mars surface.


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    #36
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    Well... I haven't dated a Caucasian woman in twenty... err.. twenty two years. I'm 43 now. Yup.

    It wasn't intentional, but.. just kinda happened. Two African women, then a woman from Egypt (mixed Persian), two Indian women, and then, I swung entirely to SE Asians. Japanese, Mixed Jap/Chinese, Thai (mixed), S.Korean, and now mostly Chinese.

    Dunno what the confusion is. Skin. Texture. Different color eyes. Different Cultural norms, and different turn ons/offs. It's fun, and endlessly fascinating. Interracial relationships aren't really any different from other relationships. A lot of communication is still the most important aspect, and it's necessary to check often whether you're doing anything that's pissing her off (and viceversa). Misunderstandings are guaranteed to happen. It's just the way things are...

    I find that those who fail at interracial relationships stop talking to each other, moving along with different images in their minds as to what the relationship represents. It's laziness and ignorance. You can't take anything for granted.. but then, I suspect it's the same for an Irish lad with an Irish lady.


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    #37
    An Ri rua
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    Although hesitant at the start, I have found Westmeath and Laois girls quite a surprise. But I would in my hoop date Kildare girls.
    So yes, Op, I would.


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    #38
    PsychoPete
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    To be honest I don't think I could ever live in a caravan, so no


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    #39
    MrStuffins
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    Don't know why you're all giving the OP's race-baiting bullish*t oxygen to be honest.

    It's like asking "Would you date someone who's left-handed?" or "Would you date someone who is a different star sign to you?"

    It makes absolutely no difference and would only matter to a f*cking moron!


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    #40
    Spook_ie
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    MrStuffins wrote: »
    Don't know why you're all giving the OP's race-baiting bullish*t oxygen to be honest.

    It's like asking "Would you date someone who's left-handed?" or "Would you date someone who is a different star sign to you?"

    It makes absolutely no difference and would only matter to a f*cking moron!

    Problem dating someone left handed is when you're driving and they offer a hand job, they have to turn in the seat so I do prefer right handed girls, having said that you could always park up I suppose


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    #41
    MEGA BRO WOLF 5000
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    I wouldn’t date an Asian or a black girl. I don’t find them attractive in the slightest. The same way I would never date an overweight girl.

    It’s not racist.


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    #42
    iptba
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    In case it is of interest, there is a Wikipedia page:
    Racial sexual preference
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Racial_sexual_preference
    Another aspect of racial preferences is that that women of any race are significantly less likely to date inter-racially than a male of any race.


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    #43
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    Welcome back, feggy. You've been busy today.


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    #44
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    Pawwed Rig wrote: »
    Define race?
    Irish people, historically, would not be the same race as a German, Spaniard or Italian but as you have excluded these then it is unclear as to where your definition of race starts and ends. If you are using a very simplistic (US norm) definition of black or brown or Asian then this would also separate Spanish and 'white' people.

    Why? The Spanish are Caucasian. The fact that in the South there go to the beach and get a tan has no impact on it. Up north theres plenty of 'white' people as you put it.


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    #45
    bobbyy gee
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    us dubs would not even date a country person


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    #46
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    MrStuffins wrote: »
    Don't know why you're all giving the OP's race-baiting bullish*t oxygen to be honest.

    It's like asking "Would you date someone who's left-handed?" or "Would you date someone who is a different star sign to you?"

    It makes absolutely no difference and would only matter to a f*cking moron!

    It's not the same. Comparing race to Star sign is ****ing moronic. One is a very distinct physical characteristic. The other is completely invisible and ignored


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    #47
    Widdensushi
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    Spook_ie wrote: »
    Problem dating someone left handed is when you're driving and they offer a hand job, they have to turn in the seat so I do prefer right handed girls, having said that you could always park up I suppose

    Or let them drive


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    #48
    bobbyy gee
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    the green party says you have to talk slow to country woman
    but i am a fast talker


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    #49
    whisky_galore
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    IAMAMORON wrote: »
    Foreign partners can be gorgeous. But they can also be difficult to please and I said only Irish people really really get Irishness.

    For sure I will date an Italian, French, Swedish, Polish, Russian, Hungarian, Romanian or a German for a while. But they don't get it. An Irish partner does.

    I dated a girl from Haiti when I was in the States. She was lovely and a total bear in the sack, but she never understood the drinking, albeit she had no problem smoking the bong. But we didn't mix seamlessly. We were not a great fit.

    This.
    I can't see, for example, typical Irish vs. strict no alcohol Muslim relationship getting very far.

    For anything to work, people have to work at meeting each other half-way, the non Irish side have to have some grasp of Irishness and the Irish end understand some of their partner's culture, (and language, esp if they're living over there)
    You can't live long term in China with a Chinese partner and be the eegit who can't be arsed to learn any Chinese, even from a purely practical pov.


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    #50
    Pawwed Rig
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    Niner leprauchan wrote: »
    Why? The Spanish are Caucasian. The fact that in the South there go to the beach and get a tan has no impact on it. Up north theres plenty of 'white' people as you put it.

    I never said they weren't. Think you misinterpreted my post.


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    #51
    Wibbs
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    Niner leprauchan wrote: »
    It's not the same. Comparing race to Star sign is ****ing moronic. One is a very distinct physical characteristic. The other is completely invisible and ignored
    Never mind societal and cultural attitudes towards a mixed race relationship and if you have kids they will have a different viewpoint in life too because of how they may be regarded. It would be lovely if we all held hands as one "human race" but the realities are quite different.

    Rejoice in the awareness of feeling stupid, for that’s how you end up learning new things. If you’re not aware you’re stupid, you probably are.



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    #52
    Wibbs
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    Deleted User wrote: »
    One race- the human race. But a lot of ethnicities.
    Well, to be fair it's a complex thing. We are all one species, Homo Sapiens Sapiens. Though I would bet the farm if we were any other animal we'd be defined further as sub species of each other. Then again the species and subspecies tag is in itself problematic and fuzzy.
    saabsaab wrote: »
    Yes. Got a DNA test a while ago and it put me down as not 90% irish/welsh/scottish/british as expected but part asian! No family links there that I know of..Migt explain why a girl once asked if I was part Japanese once though?
    If it's one of those popular online "DNA testing" setups SS, they're pretty much an utter waste of money and useless. They might appear to work for say an American audience(where most of these come from and are aimed at) as they can be far more jumbled up, but otherwise, no. Now you might have some Asian admixture, but it's highly unlikely and it's much more likely to be noise in their very crude testing. A chap I know is a geneticist and that is his take on them. He snootily compares them to horoscopes. :D He's done my genetics. Pretty basic Irish, with some Iberian in the mix, which was a bit of a surprise. And high archaic neandertal admixture which likely comes from the Iberian bit as Irish folks tend to be low in that.
    bobbyy gee wrote: »
    Most irish are mutts
    There's a mixture of english scottish norman viking etc in my family there's brown hair red hair black hair blue eyes brown eyes etc even blonds.
    I dunno how that makes one a "mutt". We rightfully wouldn't dream of saying that about African or Asian people, so why apply such a term to ourselves? Never mind that while there are admixtures going on with native Irish people, we're still pretty homogenous. If you look at the first diagram in that link you can see that England has a lot more going on.
    Pawwed Rig wrote: »
    Define race?
    Irish people, historically, would not be the same race as a German, Spaniard or Italian but as you have excluded these then it is unclear as to where your definition of race starts and ends. If you are using a very simplistic (US norm) definition of black or brown or Asian then this would also separate Spanish and 'white' people.
    Well, yeah American definitions are off the wall alright. I suppose the Spanish separation into Hispanic is more to do with a) a historical enmity between the colonies of Britain and Spain in that continent and b) more Spanish admixture with local Native American populations that wasn't nearly as much in play with other European colonists.

    Gun to my head I'd probably narrow the main populations down(crudely) to African, Asian, Indo European, Australasian and genetics and migration paths and history would fit the most into those. You'd have the outliers like San folks and African folks on islands in the Indian ocean. It long fascinated me that Africans got that far onto islands in the middle of nowhere, yet Madagascar which was right beside them and huge was left empty until about 2000 years ago and was populated by people from the Malay part of the world which in geographically technical terms is Fecking miles away like. :D It would be kinda like Ireland being discovered and colonised by Tanzanians, but missed by French people. Humans, we're a weird and fascinating bunch. :)

    Rejoice in the awareness of feeling stupid, for that’s how you end up learning new things. If you’re not aware you’re stupid, you probably are.



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    #53
    banie01
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    An Ri rua wrote: »
    Although hesitant at the start, I have found Westmeath and Laois girls quite a surprise. But I would in my hoop date Kildare girls.
    So yes, Op, I would.

    Married a Westmeath girl, who's also protestant! :eek:

    Was far more likely to be contentious than marrying outside my colour, and ya know what?

    Nobody gives a fúck ;)

    As a wise bear once said...
    Those that matter don't mind, and those that mind don't matter.


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    #54
    Granadino
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    I think folk are confusing "race" with cultural differences. There are many Italians who don't get the whole drinking thing either. In fact, being drunk in public can be considered a bad thing in Italy.
    But seeing as this thread was probably started by a teenager, what should have I expected...


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    #55
    Pawwed Rig
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    Wibbs wrote: »
    Gun to my head I'd probably narrow the main populations down(crudely) to African, Asian, Indo European, Australasian and genetics and migration paths and history would fit the most into those. You'd have the outliers like San folks and African folks on islands in the Indian ocean. It long fascinated me that Africans got that far onto islands in the middle of nowhere, yet Madagascar which was right beside them and huge was left empty until about 2000 years ago and was populated by people from the Malay part of the world which in geographically technical terms is Fecking miles away like. :D It would be kinda like Ireland being discovered and colonised by Tanzanians, but missed by French people. Humans, we're a weird and fascinating bunch. :)

    Crudely is right. Ask a Malay if they are the same as the Chinese and you will soon find out their thoughts, equally few would see an Irish/Indian couple as anything other than inter race.


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    greenspurs
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    #57
    Granadino
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    Is it me or is boards slowly going down the ****ter?


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    #58
    jimgoose
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    If I were young, free and single, absolutely and have done. In particular I personally find some Japanese and Negro women very attractive.


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    #59
    jimgoose
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    banie01 wrote: »
    Married a Westmeath girl, who's also protestant! :eek:....

    My Kangaroo (with thanks to Flann O'Brien :D) is also a Protestant. Well-and-fine mostly, but I can never seem to find the toaster.


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    #60
    banie01
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    jimgoose wrote: »
    My Kangaroo (with thanks to Flann O'Brien :D) is also a Protestant. Well-and-fine mostly, but I can never seem to find the toaster.

    We settled the toaster conundrum by using the grill ;)
    Yeah it takes a little longer, but it makes it way easier to do cheesy toast :D


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    #61
    Spook_ie
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    jimgoose wrote: »
    If I were young, free and single, absolutely and have done. In particular I personally find any find some Japanese and Negro women very attractive.





    FYP to when most males were younger


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