Irish labour party - No Alan Kelly bounce

L1011

blinding wrote: »

The Lefty Parties now think Minimum Wage jobs or Living Wage Jobs are great ! ! !

Sure ya could say a Slave was on a Living Wage Job or else She / He would die ! ! !

The Lefties think they are doing you a huge favour with their Minimum Hourly Wage Jobs or their Living Wage Jobs ~ ~ ~ No Mention of how many of these are Agency Jobs ~ ~ or how many hours a week the worker gets or how many of them are Zero hours jobs ~ ~ ~ But heh, get down on your knees and thank the Lefty Parties for their Policies that have made sure this is what is happening.

Show your gratitude to those Lefty Parties and their policies of Low Wages ~ ~ Why the Hell are you Not Grateful ~ ~ ~ And don’t forget to get with all the mad stuff the Left gets involved in to hide that they are Parties of Low Wages and will do absolutely nothing about Low Wages ~ ~ ~ Heh , Look over there , we are doing some mad Lefty stuff that nobody cares about to distract you ! ! !:eek::eek:

This post is completely unintelligible.

Galwayguy35

Its so far removed from the party Jim Larkin founded its hard to see any way back for them now.

You have Labour, the Greens, SDs and SF to a certain extent as well all trying to get the middle class liberal vote.

dhaughton99

blinding wrote: »

All the Lefty Parties support this i.e. They support Policies to Keep Wages Low.

Lefty Parties are the Parties of Low Wages = = Thats what Lefty Parties are about these days ! ! !

Low wages and free labor through partnerships and schemes. Why pay when you can get them to work by force? The people will not forget jackbooted Joan

blinding

dhaughton99 wrote: »

Low wages and free labor through partnerships and schemes. Why pay when you can get them to work by force? The people will not forget jackbooted Joan

Joan Burton really really really hated Working Class people and she was a Labour Party TD:eek::eek:

All these Lefty Parties are the same they actually hate the Irish Working Class.

I suppose thats why they think Low wages are good enough for the Irish working Class ! !:eek::eek:

I Am The Law

blinding wrote: »

Joan Burton really really really hated Working Class people and she was a Labour Party TD:eek::eek:

All these Lefty Parties are the same they actually hate the Irish Working Class.

I suppose thats why they think Low wages are good enough for the Irish working Class ! !:eek::eek:

That's because they adopt their "social conscience" in college as idealistic young people and have no real life experiences, it's difficult to keep that act up for the rest of your life.

blinding

I Am The Law wrote: »

That's because they adopt their "social conscience" in college as idealistic young people and have no real life experiences, it's difficult to keep that act up for the rest of your life.

:eek: You are Not Wrong ! !

You’d wonder why the Irish Working Class keep Voting (well some of them ) for Lefty parties that Hate them :eek:

Foxhound38

blinding wrote: »

Every Policy of the Lefty Parties Promotes Low Wages.

When all of their Policies Promote Low Wages it is correct to assume that they are In Favour of Low Wages.

Lefty Parties have become the Parties of Low Wages. They Love Low Wages and Low Wage Jobs.

You keep saying that but can't seem to offer any detail. What policies specifically do the left parties stand for that promotes lower wages?

jay1988

Beechwoodspark wrote: »

I think one thing that is “unfortunate” for Labour is that Sinn Fein and the other smaller left parties can bring up labours record in govt any time they like and use it as a stick to beat them with.

Deservedly so, they were an absolute disgrace in government and hopefully will never get near those levels again.

blinding

blinding wrote: »

The Lefty Parties now think Minimum Wage jobs or Living Wage Jobs are great ! ! !

Sure ya could say a Slave was on a Living Wage Job or else She / He would die ! ! !

The Lefties think they are doing you a huge favour with their Minimum Hourly Wage Jobs or their Living Wage Jobs ~ ~ ~ No Mention of how many of these are Agency Jobs ~ ~ or how many hours a week the worker gets or how many of them are Zero hours jobs ~ ~ ~ But heh, get down on your knees and thank the Lefty Parties for their Policies that have made sure this is what is happening.

Show your gratitude to those Lefty Parties and their policies of Low Wages ~ ~ Why the Hell are you Not Grateful ~ ~ ~ And don’t forget to get with all the mad stuff the Left gets involved in to hide that they are Parties of Low Wages and will do absolutely nothing about Low Wages ~ ~ ~ Heh , Look over there , we are doing some mad Lefty stuff that nobody cares about to distract you ! ! !:eek::eek:

Is there any thread on this website in which you don't contribute complete and utter cobblers?

IAMAMORON

I think they have suffered from the upsurge in less moderate lefties like the SD's an PBP. Kelly should be reaching out to these parties to amalgamate, when you break them down there is only a few issues of contention.

At some point or other the left wing will need to unite to get into any semblance of power. Their alternative is to sit on the sidelines cranking away, voters will eventually give up on them if they cannot influence change.

Between the independents, Labour and the other lefties and the other moops and stooges you have essentially 35-40 seats that are literally offering this country nothing. Crank crank blah blah all day long ....and no one is listening, at all.

blinding

Foxhound38 wrote: »

You keep saying that but can't seem to offer any detail. What policies specifically do the left parties stand for that promotes lower wages?

Every policy that the Lefty Parties have are against the Irish Working Class.

They have absolutely No Policies that are for the Irish working Class ~ None.

Irish lefty Parties Hate the Irish Working Class, They are Anti-Irish Working Class Parties ~ ~ ~ Are they even in the Correct Country ? ?

Danzy

Bonniedog wrote: »

There has always been a relatively marginal left liberal party in the state. Used to be Labour, now its the Shinners.

They are doing better than Labour ever did at moment, but a lot of that is because the people who vote for them think they stand for all sorts of stuff which they don't.

The dimmer ones think they are still a republican nationalist party, and the woke one couldn't give a fart about any of that. They do well in being able to ride two horses: making it seem that they are against stuff while actually voting for it! The Covid restrictions being just one example. Also completely contradictory policies north and south.

In north they even support cutting corporation tax and have implemented Tory cuts. While whinging about such things down here. Shows how much attention most southern voters pay to north, or anything really.

SF in Dublin is different to SF in Armagh or Kerry.

How they'll square the circle of what they are now vs what the support base thinks is going to define them.

Many of the younger activists in the party are Sticks.

Danzy

blinding wrote: »

Every policy that the Lefty Parties have are against the Irish Working Class.

They have absolutely No Policies that are for the Irish working Class ~ None.

Irish lefty Parties Hate the Irish Working Class, They are Anti-Irish Working Class Parties ~ ~ ~ Are they even in the Correct Country ? ?

The modern left are post working class.

Danzy

IAMAMORON wrote: »

I think they have suffered from the upsurge in less moderate lefties like the SD's an PBP. Kelly should be reaching out to these parties to amalgamate, when you break them down there is only a few issues of contention.

At some point or other the left wing will need to unite to get into any semblance of power. Their alternative is to sit on the sidelines cranking away, voters will eventually give up on them if they cannot influence change.

Between the independents, Labour and the other lefties and the other moops and stooges you have essentially 35-40 seats that are literally offering this country nothing. Crank crank blah blah all day long ....and no one is listening, at all.

There are 19 left wing parties and movements in Ireland.

The Greens have factions developing internally now.

Do they want to influence change?

Edgware

Danzy wrote: »

SF in Dublin is different to SF in Armagh or Kerry.

How they'll square the circle of what they are now vs what the support base thinks is going to define them.

Many of the younger activists in the party are Sticks.

The S.F. in Armagh and Tyrone arent really in to this equal distribution of wealth ****e (ask Slab if you doubt me).
And if Cushy told the truth she isn't either

blinding

blinding wrote: »

Every policy that the Lefty Parties have are against the Irish Working Class.

They have absolutely No Policies that are for the Irish working Class ~ None.

Irish lefty Parties Hate the Irish Working Class, They are Anti-Irish Working Class Parties ~ ~ ~ Are they even in the Correct Country ? ?

You still have not answered Foxhound's question, you've just posted more drivel.

blinding

Deleted User wrote: »

You still have not answered Foxhound's question, you've just posted more drivel.

What Policies have any of the Lefty Parties that will increase the Wages of the Irish Working Class People = = Answer ~ No Policies What so Ever ! ! !:eek::eek:

Richard Hillman

You can see everything begin to pan out over the next 20 years or so. Labour in the UK got hammered in their traditional areas because they abandoned their indigenous working class vote. And it wasn't just Brexit Party stripping votes, people genuinely went out and voted Conservative for the first time in their lives.

Here we have Labour who have absolutely no interest in the issues facing working class Irish people. They cannot possibly tell us with a straight face that Aodhan O'Riordan and Ivana Bacik are fully tuned in to the issues of the working class (not welfare class). Sinn Féin are going that way too and PBP pretty much despise the people who vote for them :pac:

It's all lining up for an actual right wing party to move in, take the working class vote with socially Conservative policies and the middle class vote with fiscally Conservative politicies. A party that says F-U to the media, well play our own game, we're only interested in stuff that people actually care about.

The current right wing is too scattered and the good voices are being drowned out by the crazies. But the grounding is there if it finds a good cohesive leader (Like Farage) and some financial backing.

blinding

Richard Hillman wrote: »

You can see everything begin to pan out over the next 20 years or so. Labour in the UK got hammered in their traditional areas because they abandoned their indigenous working class vote. And it wasn't just Brexit Party stripping votes, people genuinely went out and voted Conservative for the first time in their lives.

Here we have Labour who have absolutely no interest in the issues facing working class Irish people. Sinn Féin are going that way too and PBP pretty much despise the people who vote for them :pac:

It's all lining up for an actual right wing party to move in, take the working class vote with socially Conservative policies and the middle class vote with fiscally Conservative politicies. A party that says F-U to the media, well play our own game, we're only interested in stuff that people actually care about.

The current right wing is too scattered and the good voices are being drowned out by the crazies. But the grounding is there if it finds a good cohesive leader (Like Farage) and some financial backing.

Excellent Post. This is the Future.

TCM

Double O Seven wrote:

They have fallen to 3% in the polls since Kelly took over

Wonderful. Obliteration of the Liebour party hopefully.

blinding

TCM wrote: »

Wonderful. Obliteration of the Liebour party hopefully.

Is it Possible to have Minus figures of support :D::eek:

Edgware

Edgware wrote: »

The S.F. in Armagh and Tyrone arent really in to this equal distribution of wealth ****e (ask Slab if you doubt me).
And if Cushy told the truth she isn't either

tbf, no one who looks into it believes SF are a left wing party.

I feel sorry for Labour, the country was completely fúcked when they go their chance at running things. Most of the bailout money was used to keep the country functioning (ie paying wages for nurses, Gardaí, teachers etc) but even a decade on you'll get some halfwit saying "they bailed out the banks etc".

Double O Seven

Aodhán Ó Ríordáin wants to abolish single sex schools, what a silly woke policy

Double O Seven

Double O Seven wrote: »

Aodhán Ó Ríordáin wants to abolish single sex schools, what a silly woke policy

How is that a "silly woke policy"?

Double O Seven

[Deleted User] wrote: »

How is that a "silly woke policy"?

Well it's hardly a bread and butter labour policy

super_furry

blinding wrote: »

Excellent Post. This is the Future.

Really? There's absolutely no signs at all that there's a desire for a socially conservative party in Ireland. Just look at the gay marriage and abortion referenda.

L1011

Double O Seven wrote: »

Well it's hardly a bread and butter labour policy

Its been a policy of most non-conservative parties for decades.

golfball37

[Deleted User] wrote: »

tbf, no one who looks into it believes SF are a left wing party.

I feel sorry for Labour, the country was completely fúcked when they go their chance at running things. Most of the bailout money was used to keep the country functioning (ie paying wages for nurses, Gardaí, teachers etc) but even a decade on you'll get some halfwit saying "they bailed out the banks etc".

I didn’t have a problem with Labour overseeing cuts post 2011 we were broke. The things within their control however put me off them for life. Not backing Shorthall when she called out Reilly’s stunt was not the new politics promised for starters.

Foxhound38

golfball37 wrote: »

I didn’t have a problem with Labour overseeing cuts post 2011 we were broke. The things within their control however put me off them for life. Not backing Shorthall when she called out Reilly’s stunt was not the new politics promised for starters.

I have to agree there - I find it hard to blame them for a lot of what people drone on about when complaining about them (cuts, mainly - Paul Murphy would have had to make drastic cuts in expenditure had he been in government back in 2011, perish the thought!), but I find it impossible to forgive them for doing or not doing certain things that nobody talks about anymore that WAS within their power at the time.

It is very hard to understand some of the decisions Gilmore and Burton took back then.

Dr golden 2

Still @ 3% in polls. Almost neck and neck with Aontú now.