Entire Cabinet to self-isolate as Dáil adjourned

TheValeyard

Eleven Benevolent Elephants wrote: »

Can they not work from home?

Teleconference on their computer?

I suppose most being teachers they're used to (almost) unlimited time off with inflated wages and work shy.

tayto lover

khalessi wrote: »

Interesting they are social distancing in a conference centre and everyone is considered a close contact so they close it down. I am closer than 60cm from the kids I teach for 40 minutes in an 8 foot wide room and have been told as SET I don't count as a close contact, that I should continue working.

An 8 foot wide room???
Did they put you out in the corridor?

StackSteevens

Dempo1 wrote: »

Michael Martin getting savaged on the RTE news now, it's painful to watch

I'm no great fan of MM's but if I was him I'd have given McCullough (who before this evening's performance I have always regarded as a pretty good and professional journalist) a kick straight in the balls.

He was simply trying to score smartass points and hadn't even the basic courtesy to bother listening to MM's answers. For me, his antics were disgraceful and MM treated him far too politely.

scouserstation

We are quickly becoming the laughing stock of Europe, first with our confusing travel advisories, then the golfgate scandal followed by more confusion over the EU job, now this, id be amazed if this government is still in place by the end of the year

StackSteevens

jojofizzio wrote: »

Was MM actually in the studio?
I thought he (and the rest of the cabinet)were self-isolating no?

The interrogation took place in the open air outside Government Buildings - the inquisitor and his hapless victim stood about 9 feet away from one another.

Poor_old_gill

StackSteevens wrote: »

I'm no great fan of MM's but if I was him I'd have given McCullough (who before this evening's performance I have always regarded as a pretty good and professional journalist) a kick straight in the balls.

He was simply trying to score smartass points and hadn't even the basic courtesy to bother listening to MM's answers. For me, his antics were disgraceful and MM treated him far too politely.

It’s his job as a journalist to ask her tough questions and Martin was struggling to give clarity on some points.

These questions were absolutely necessary in light of the fact that the government had to come out after their announcement and clarify the restaurant situation if things go to level 3 & also the fact that they have already broken the conventions set out in their roadmap on day 1 of its implementation

mirrorwall14

tayto lover wrote: »

An 8 foot wide room???
Did they put you out in the corridor?

In our school the photocopying room is now a classroom. The double door exit area is a classroom. Two rooms designed as offices are classrooms. In most of those rooms they are so small they have the chairs with the small table attached in order to fit the class in

ETA: we are bursting at the seams but we don’t qualify for extra buildings etc unless we convert every usable space in the building first

solerina

Dr Turk Turkelton wrote: »

Even so I find it hard to believe that it is only eight feet wide- that sounds like a broom closet.

Edit; just seen above post about a broom closet!

The special needs room in my school is also about 8 foot wide, these rooms are often converted storage rooms

StackSteevens

Poor_old_gill wrote: »

It’s his job as a journalist to ask her tough questions and Martin was struggling to give clarity on some points.

These questions were absolutely necessary in light of the fact that the government had to come out after their announcement and clarify the restaurant situation if things go to level 3 & also the fact that they have already broken the conventions set out in their roadmap on day 1 of its implementation

The questions weren't particularly tough and Martin proved himself fully capable of answering them, calmly and articulately - whenever RTE's baboon wasn't interrupting him or noisily rustling his papers as he frantically tried to find something that he could use to trip him up.

Poor_old_gill

StackSteevens wrote: »

The questions weren't particularly tough and Martin proved himself fully capable of answering them, calmly and articulately - when RTE's baboon wasn't interrupting him or noisily rustling his papers as he frantically tried to trip him up.

He wasn’t able to outline exactly how we would move between levels & the farcical situation of level 2.5 in which Dublin finds itself undermines the whole document already so he will be continuously questioned on it I would imagine

StackSteevens

Poor_old_gill wrote: »

He wasn’t able to outline exactly how we would move between levels & the farcical situation of level 2.5 in which Dublin finds itself undermines the whole document already so he will be continuously questioned on it I would imagine

Hopefully the interview will be repeated on the 9.00 news so we'll get a second chance of hearing what his response was. From memory I believe that MM said something about NPHET issuing more clarification on Thursday?

Hawthorn Tree

This day will long be remembered in politics. They'll need 2 Reeling in the Years programs to cover this ongoing cluster****. Are the cabinet isolating in Clifden House Hotel?

jojofizzio

StackSteevens wrote: »

The interrogation took place in the open air outside Government Buildings - the inquisitor and his hapless victim stood about 9 feet away from one another.

Ah okay....I had thought they were in a studio together..

Poor_old_gill

StackSteevens wrote: »

Hopefully the interview will be repeated on the 9.00 news so we'll get a second chance of hearing what his response was. From memory I believe that MM said something about NPHET issuing more clarification on Thursday?

I think the clarification that he said would be forthcoming on thurs was regarding the state of play in Dublin & not how to move between levels.

There’s a decent chance that Dublin could find itself out in level 3 this thurs as the position it’s in now was decided on after last Thursday recommendations- while cases have increased a bit since then.

I can understand the apprehension about imposing tighter restrictions on Dublin but this level 2.5 stuff, especially on day 1, just looks amateurish

Dayor Knight

on RTE NEWS right now. He has tested negative (text from himself).

Harry Palmr

Donnelly is negative! So surely they should be back at work tomorrow.

Allinall

Donnelly’s rest was negative. Just reported on RTE.

Carry on.

MOH

Allinall wrote: »

Donnelly’s rest was negative. Just reported on RTE.

Carry on.

If they could turn all the tests around that quickly we'd be in great shape

AllForIt

You'd think they would have held off the news on suspending cabinet until they got his test result. This was reported in the UK. False alarm. How embarrassing.

Dayor Knight

Allinall wrote: »

Donnelly’s rest was negative. Just reported on RTE.

Carry on.

Carry on up the Liffey.

gmisk

Allinall wrote: »

Donnelly’s rest was negative. Just reported on RTE.

Carry on.

Jesus that was some quick turnaround on the test!

s1ippy

Dempo1 wrote: »

Michael Martin getting savaged on the RTE news now, it's painful to watch

Carnage.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q2unmIRoLC0

SeaFields

gmisk wrote: »

Jesus that was some quick turnaround on the test!

Joe Duffy is going to be absolute gold tomorrow!

hotmail.com

Surely it wasn't necessary to publicise his illness or whatever, until he got a result.

And ringing the chief medical officer for advice. Donnelly is an idiot.

Poor_old_gill

hotmail.com wrote: »

Surely it wasn't necessary to publicise his illness or whatever, until he got a result.

And ringing the chief medical officer for advice. Donnelly is an idiot.

It is odd that he needed to ring the CMO.

Surely he, as MFH, knows that if you have symptoms that you self isolate & get checked- you don’t need to double check

MerlinSouthDub

hotmail.com wrote: »

Surely it wasn't necessary to publicise his illness or whatever, until he got a result.

And ringing the chief medical officer for advice. Donnelly is an idiot.

It sets a good example. If in doubt, get tested, be open about it and ensure any colleagues are aware of it so that they can take precautions.

He talks to the CMO several times a day. Of course he's going to ask him for advice!

Risteard81

Allinall wrote: »

Donnelly’s rest was negative.

It must have been an IQ and decency test so.

kippy

Plumbthedepths wrote: »

Donnelly should be sacked for ignoring the advice he expects everyone else to follow. Bunch of Muppets.

I've said this on other threads but just because someone has the virus, it doesn't mean they have been ignoring or breaching the advice/regulations.

bobbyy gee

maybe we could get seinn fein in to keep the seats warm

Happydays2020

kippy wrote: »

I've said this on other threads but just because someone has the virus, it doesn't mean they have been ignoring or breaching the advice/regulations.

Except his lecturing of people and sanctimonious approach did so.

MOH

s1ippy wrote: »

Carnage.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q2unmIRoLC0

Wow. There's a man who's clearly never had an actual job in the real world. (from 5:25)
Q: "NPHET advised last Thursday about bringing in restrictions. Why did you not act on the Friday like you have previously, instead of waiting until today?"
A:"Act quicker how? But sure the pubs weren't opening until the 21st. Today is plenty of notice, it doesn't make a difference".

I'm no expert, but I'd imagine if you've been 100% assured by the Government on the 8th that your business can open the 21st, you might want official notification as far as possible in advance that they're reneging on that. Given real world businesses have issue like staffing and stock to organise.

That's actually a quite disturbing lack of grasp on basic realities.

xhomelezz

Risteard81 wrote: »

It must have been an IQ and decency test so.

Sure it was, why don't you run one for yourself. You never know.

kippy

Happydays2020 wrote: »

Except his lecturing of people and sanctimonious approach did so.

People need to be constantly reminded of good practices....
Look. I ain't a fan of him either. But it's completely wrong to 'blame' anyone who catches the viruse and tell them they obviously didn't follow the restrictions.....

Risteard81

MOH wrote: »

Wow. There's a man who's clearly never had an actual job in the real world.
Q: "NPHET advised last Thursday about bringing in restrictions. Why did you not act on the Friday like you have previously, instead of waiting until today?"
A:"Act quicker how? But sure the pubs weren't opening until the 21st. Today is plenty of notice, it doesn't make a difference".

I'm no expert, but I'd imagine if you've been 100% assured by the Government on the 8th that your business can open the 21st, you might want official notification as far as possible in advance that they're reneging on that. Given real world businesses have issue like staffing and stock to organise.

That's actually a quite disturbing lack of grasp on basic realities.

He's pond life - as is Varadkar.

Ned Led Zeppo

Amirani wrote: »

The Dail can't function without the Government present, it's pretty straightforward.

I wonder is the Dail wet bar open?:eek:

Happydays2020

Ned Led Zeppo wrote: »

I wonder is the Dail wet bar open?:eek:

Peanuts are a substantial meal there

Pinoy adventure

Ned Led Zeppo wrote: »

I wonder is the Dail wet bar open?:eek:

Yes it's back open

Pinoy adventure

Ned Led Zeppo wrote: »

I wonder is the Dail wet bar open?:eek:

Here you go

Pinoy adventure

Happydays2020 wrote: »

Peanuts are a substantial meal there

Give them a break

_Kaiser_

Who was the second minister with a suspected case? (just heard it mentioned on Prime Time)

BPKS

gmisk wrote: »

Jesus that was some quick turnaround on the test!

And some nurse with symptoms will be off work for a week or so (when he/she has a 2% chance of being positive).

I wonder did he maybe pay a few hundred euro out of his own pocket to get it fast tracked. And if he did, can he claim it as expenses?!

Mental Mickey

_Kaiser_ wrote: »

Who was the second minister with a suspected case? (just heard it mentioned on Prime Time)

Think they got their knickers in a twist there? They meant Ronan Glynn I'd say.....?

jojofizzio

BPKS wrote: »

And some nurse with symptoms will be off work for a week or so (when he/she has a 2% chance of being positive).

I wonder did he maybe pay a few hundred euro out of his own pocket to get it fast tracked. And if he did, can he claim it as expenses?!

You can be sure he didn’t

Poor_old_gill

_Kaiser_ wrote: »

Who was the second minister with a suspected case? (just heard it mentioned on Prime Time)

I think I read earlier that Eamon Ryan is isolating due to a family member having been in contact with someone who has Covid- or something like that!

Kat1170

Happydays2020 wrote: »

Peanuts are a substantial meal there

Peanuts would be more a description of the clientele.

stockshares

_Kaiser_ wrote: »

Who was the second minister with a suspected case? (just heard it mentioned on Prime Time)

Thomas Byrne. See his Twitterl for updates
https://www.rte.ie/news/coronavirus/2020/0915/1165384-cabinet-isolation-covid/

Rumours that Eamonn Ryan is self isolating as a precaution due to contact with a known case

Happydays2020

Is it acceptable for someone to turn up to a place of work when they have a cough? Do they need any other symptoms?

stockshares

Happydays2020 wrote: »

Is it acceptable for someone to turn up to a place of work when they have a cough? Do they need any other symptoms?

I wouldn't think so. There is a Yellow booklet printed by Gov that shows the distinctions between covid symptoms and flu symptoms. Either way I'd imagine a person should not.

Booklet below.
https://www.communityworkireland.ie/covid-19-public-information-booklet/
or here
https://www.lenus.ie/handle/10147/627527

Flu season is really going to cause havoc. It will definitely lead to more tests taken and this will clog up the system on top of everything else.

Thomas Byrne's action shows Connelly in a bad light if he knew he had symptoms this morning before the briefing .

Also his test didn't take place as quickly by the look of it. Maybe it's a seniority thing which is understandable enough given his position.

gmisk

stockshares wrote: »

Thomas Byrne. See his Twitterl for updates
https://www.rte.ie/news/coronavirus/2020/0915/1165384-cabinet-isolation-covid/

Rumours that Eamonn Ryan is self isolating as a precaution due to contact with a known case

The Eamon Ryan thing isn't a rumour I am pretty sure that was mentioned on the news, I think they said suspected rather than known though.

amadangomor

BPKS wrote: »

And some nurse with symptoms will be off work for a week or so (when he/she has a 2% chance of being positive).

I wonder did he maybe pay a few hundred euro out of his own pocket to get it fast tracked. And if he did, can he claim it as expenses?!

You are scraping the barrel looking for any way to critisise.

I had the test result in 29 hours a few days ago so you are talking baloney about a week off for a nurse.

He runs the most important department in the country at present and the whole cabinet were out until he got his result. Of course they are going to get it done ASAP and not in line with the 10s of thousands they are completing every week now.

Welcome to the real world.