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Entire Cabinet to self-isolate as Dáil adjourned

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,065 ✭✭✭✭Odyssey 2005




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,357 ✭✭✭✭leahyl


    They needed a break, bless


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,661 ✭✭✭✭BPKS


    Donnelly had been spouting an awful lot of sh1te since he got the job. Wonder was he also spouting the virus at the cabinet meeting.

    I'm going full conspiracy theory on this and saying they are after pulling the duvet over their heads and hoping everybody will have forgotten these new 5 Level system by the time they can be accountable in the media again.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,326 ✭✭✭Scuid Mhór


    The circus continues. Let's try not to jump to conclusions until we hear whether or not Donnelly has tested positive, but keep in mind if the Dail is self-isolating, they have all probably been in pretty close contact with him for the last few days/weeks. Recall the UK and the Iranian governments getting wiped out by this at the beginning of the first wave, the Iranian government mores. Of course, our government isn't as old as an Islamic theocracy, but with the after-effects of COVID-19 we are all hearing about, if this sweeps through the cabinet, we might lose government members for weeks and when they have recovered (assuming they do recover), they still might not be fit enough for the job. This is a worst-case scenario but it could occur quite quickly.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,653 ✭✭✭✭Plumbthedepths


    Donnelly should be sacked for ignoring the advice he expects everyone else to follow. Bunch of Muppets.


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 466 ✭✭DangerScouse


    Horrible for Donnelly. Hope he's alright. I wouldn't wish this virus on anyone


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,215 ✭✭✭khalessi


    Interesting they are social distancing in a conference centre and everyone is considered a close contact so they close it down. I am closer than 60cm from the kids I teach for 40 minutes in an 8 foot wide room and have been told as SET I don't count as a close contact, that I should continue working.


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 12,548 Mod ✭✭✭✭Amirani


    khalessi wrote: »
    Interesting they are social distancing in a conference centre and everyone is considered a close contact so they close it down. I am closer than 60cm from the kids I teach for 40 minutes and have been told as SET I don't count as a close contact, that I should continue working.

    The Dail can't function without the Government present, it's pretty straightforward.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,698 ✭✭✭✭Itssoeasy


    How exactly can Stephan Donnelly continue as minister for health if he tests positive for coronavirus when he’s been going on about the precautions and what not to do if you feel unwell and yet it seems he’s potentially not just the cabinet but their families at risk. I mean this incident doesn’t help the narrative of it being one rule for them and one for everyone else.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,357 ✭✭✭✭leahyl


    Itssoeasy wrote: »
    How exactly can Stephan Donnelly continue as minister for health if he tests positive for coronavirus when he’s been going on about the precautions and what not to do if you feel unwell and yet it seems he’s potentially not just the cabinet but their families at risk. I mean this incident doesn’t help the narrative of it being one rule for them and one for everyone else.

    Well, it said he started feeling ill during the press conference so I don’t think he felt unwell beforehand....If that was the case then he obviously shouldn’t have attended the press conference


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 89,021 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    Donnelly should be sacked for ignoring the advice he expects everyone else to follow. Bunch of Muppets.

    ****e Show, a shambles, get FF out

    I doubt any on covid pay while out


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86 ✭✭PixieValentine


    What's mad is for months the last government were actively trying to prevent this very scenario by meeting in groups of two, never all at once, so they WOULDN'T all be taken out at once. Leo and Simon C were almost never in the same room from mid March until sometime in June so they were giving themselves every chance of the two never being taken out at the same time, and so the Tanaiste would be able to take over from the Taoiseach if he got sick or had to self-isolate. They KNEW this could be a possibility!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,694 ✭✭✭✭NIMAN


    Itssoeasy wrote: »
    How exactly can Stephan Donnelly continue as minister for health if he tests positive for coronavirus when he’s been going on about the precautions and what not to do if you feel unwell and yet it seems he’s potentially not just the cabinet but their families at risk. I mean this incident doesn’t help the narrative of it being one rule for them and one for everyone else.

    So you think he should be sacked simply because he caught a highly contagious virus?

    I'm no fan of him, but it's not like he did it deliberately. No one who got CV19 did it deliberately.

    You'd be a harsh boss.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,215 ✭✭✭khalessi


    Amirani wrote: »
    The Dail can't function without the Government present, it's pretty straightforward.

    Really!! Well who'd a thunk it? Theyre kinda ****ing it up as it is

    Ppoint being if they cant manage it in a huge conference centre, how do they expect schools to do it. Should had a planB


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,653 ✭✭✭✭Plumbthedepths


    JP Liz V1 wrote: »
    ****e Show, a shambles, get FF out

    I doubt any on covid pay while out

    It's a tri party government.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,153 ✭✭✭✭normanoffside


    Horrible for Donnelly. Hope he's alright. I wouldn't wish this virus on anyone

    You really should understand that it’s not likely to affect him much more than a cold.
    Despite his often mocked appearance he appears to be a young and healthy.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,653 ✭✭✭✭Plumbthedepths


    NIMAN wrote: »
    So you think he should be sacked simply because he caught a highly contagious virus?

    I'm no fan of him, but it's not like he did it deliberately. No one who got CV19 did it deliberately.

    You'd be a harsh boss.

    No he should not be sacked for catching the virus ( if he has) he however should be sacked for failing to adhere to health advice his government are instructing the public to follow.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 533 ✭✭✭chuck eastwood


    Donnelly should be sacked for ignoring the advice he expects everyone else to follow. Bunch of Muppets.
    What advice did he ignore


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 466 ✭✭DangerScouse


    Just when we need a fully operational government with the country facing into a virus and Brexit crisis also.

    You can only laugh tbh.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,440 ✭✭✭✭Sardonicat


    khalessi wrote: »
    Interesting they are social distancing in a conference centre and everyone is considered a close contact so they close it down.
    But are they socially distancing in closed cabinet meetings and adhering to the other guidelines there ? The speed at which they've shut up shop suggests otherwise. Nothwithstanding, I take your point about conditions on schools.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,694 ✭✭✭✭NIMAN


    No he should not be sacked for catching the virus ( if he has) he however should be sacked for failing to adhere to health advice his government are instructing the public to follow.

    Following government advice is not 100% guaranteed to stop you getting the virus.


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 12,548 Mod ✭✭✭✭Amirani


    No he should not be sacked for catching the virus ( if he has) he however should be sacked for failing to adhere to health advice his government are instructing the public to follow.

    You don't know whether he followed public health advice or not. You basically don't have a clue.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,653 ✭✭✭✭Plumbthedepths


    What advice did he ignore

    A cough is viewed as a symptom,


    https://www2.hse.ie/conditions/coronavirus/symptoms.html


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,661 ✭✭✭✭BPKS


    Sardonicat wrote: »
    But are they socially distancing in closed cabinet meetings and adhering to the other guidelines there ? The speed at which they've shut up shop suggests otherwise. Nothwithstanding, I take your point about conditions on schools.

    If you are indoor with somebody for over 15 minutes who developed Covid you are considered a close contact and have to self isolate til you get results of a test.

    Well that's how it was during Phase 3. I'm not sure how it works when Dublin is in Level 2.5 and operating during a Yellow sun warning, an Orange wind warning and a red rainfall warning.


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 12,548 Mod ✭✭✭✭Amirani


    Dail going to resume tonight, junior ministers going to step in for Cabinet.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,089 ✭✭✭Happy4all


    Were they not working in two separate teams to try and avoid full closure? Like most organization


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,947 ✭✭✭✭Beechwoodspark


    Another fine mess from Stephen calamity Donnelly


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,653 ✭✭✭✭Plumbthedepths


    Amirani wrote: »
    You don't know whether he followed public health advice or not. You basically don't have a clue.

    He was on the radio earlier today coughing, a symptom as outlined by the HSE and you are requested to isolate and arrange a test .


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,947 ✭✭✭✭Beechwoodspark


    Happy4all wrote: »
    Were they not working in two separate teams to try and avoid full closure? Like most organization

    Too much like common sense


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,661 ✭✭✭✭BPKS


    Amirani wrote: »
    Dail going to resume tonight, junior ministers going to step in for Cabinet.

    Like making the Junior B team play an All Ireland final.

    Than again the senior team are fcukin useless too.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,653 ✭✭✭✭Plumbthedepths


    NIMAN wrote: »
    Following government advice is not 100% guaranteed to stop you getting the virus.

    Did I say it was? You are however asked to isolate if you have any of the recognised symptoms.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 43,028 ✭✭✭✭SEPT 23 1989


    Today of all days


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,947 ✭✭✭✭Beechwoodspark


    This is some mess

    We face the prospect of the entire cabinet being incapacitated during a very important period of time


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,950 ✭✭✭ChikiChiki


    This is some mess

    We face the prospect of the entire cabinet being incapacitated during a very important period of time

    Can they not work remotely?

    All the tech is there.


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 12,548 Mod ✭✭✭✭Amirani


    ChikiChiki wrote: »
    Can they not work remotely?

    All the tech is there.

    They will be.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,051 ✭✭✭✭Dempo1


    You just couldn't make this up, it's beyond astonishing and I suspect soon after this shambles of a road map was coming under intense scrutiny, Leo came up with a Cunning plan, let's all self isolate until the dust settles.

    357 new cases, 3 deaths and the best they can come up with is level 2 and a bit for Dublin, its shocking. The road map is essentially nothing new actually it's nothing at all apert from. More incoherent nonsense.

    I dispair at what's coming, there even putting Trump to shame with the ineptitude.

    Is maith an scáthán súil charad.




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 165 ✭✭MugsGame


    I trust Charlie McConalogue is en route to the underground bunker in Athlone, we can't afford to lose another one ...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 89,021 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    NIMAN wrote: »
    So you think he should be sacked simply because he caught a highly contagious virus?

    I'm no fan of him, but it's not like he did it deliberately. No one who got CV19 did it deliberately.

    You'd be a harsh boss.

    He was coughing at presser and also on radio earlier this morning so wasn't taking his own advice of staying at home


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 466 ✭✭DangerScouse


    Dempo1 wrote: »
    You just couldn't make this up, it's beyond astonishing and I suspect soon after this shambles of a road map was coming under intense scrutiny, Leo came up with a Cunning plan, let's all self isolate until the dust settles.

    357 new cases, 3 deaths and the best they can come up with is level 2 and a bit for Dublin, its shocking. The road map is essentially nothing new actually it's nothing at all apert from. More incoherent nonsense.

    I dispair at what's coming, there even putting Trump to shame with the ineptitude.

    At least Trump is entertaining. MM is the most boring man ever to have lived.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,239 ✭✭✭Jimbob1977


    Hope he gets well soon.

    Corona virus could happen to anyone. It doesn't discriminate.


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    MugsGame wrote: »
    I trust Charlie McConalogue is en route to the underground bunker in Athlone, we can't afford to lose another one ...

    Designated Survivor, Irish style


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,997 ✭✭✭Dr Turk Turkelton


    khalessi wrote: »
    Interesting they are social distancing in a conference centre and everyone is considered a close contact so they close it down. I am closer than 60cm from the kids I teach for 40 minutes in an 8 foot wide room and have been told as SET I don't count as a close contact, that I should continue working.

    The biggest scandal in this thread if it is true is that there is a classroom that is only eight feet wide.
    That sounds like something from the 1930's- is there any chance you could post a pic of this classroom with something in the pic for scale?


  • Moderators, Education Moderators, Regional South East Moderators Posts: 12,514 Mod ✭✭✭✭byhookorbycrook


    The biggest scandal in this thread if it is true is that there is a classroom that is only eight feet wide.
    That sounds like something from the 1930's- is there any chance you could post a pic of this classroom with something in the pic for scale?

    It’s a special education room. Would normally have groups of 4 students , but that number can be higher .


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,239 ✭✭✭Jimbob1977


    The biggest scandal in this thread if it is true is that there is a classroom that is only eight feet wide.
    That sounds like something from the 1930's- is there any chance you could post a pic of this classroom with something in the pic for scale?

    A special needs teacher would operate from a small room.

    In my child's school, the special needs teacher used to operate from a converted broom cupboard.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,878 ✭✭✭✭gmisk


    I suppose inevitable this would happen eventually here


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,997 ✭✭✭Dr Turk Turkelton


    It’s a special education room. Would normally have groups of 4 students , but that number can be higher .

    Even so I find it hard to believe that it is only eight feet wide- that sounds like a broom closet.

    Edit; just seen above post about a broom closet!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86 ✭✭PixieValentine




  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,950 ✭✭✭ChikiChiki


    Feels like we have a free gaff at the minute.

    Time for some divilment.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,051 ✭✭✭✭Dempo1


    What happened to this external PR company they were to hire? Although I guess even the best PR company in the world can make a Turd not look like a Turd.

    Wait for it, Leo will be out soon enough continuing his one man undermining show.

    Is maith an scáthán súil charad.




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,663 ✭✭✭✭Mental Mickey


    He was on the radio earlier today coughing, a symptom as outlined by the HSE and you are requested to isolate and arrange a test .

    Was he in studio or speaking by phone?


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