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To Mask or not to two - Mask Megathread cont.



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,445 ✭✭✭ Seanergy

    Is that right Daniel.

    Regarding wanting the mandate extended:

    A few weeks before Paddy's day was a daft time to drop the mandate. Basic knowledge. Never should have been dropped before early April IMO. Brutually rushed.

    Regarding fines:

    Your only picking up on my later posts but I may have also posted in part1 of this thread, not sure that your read any of that? my view that mask fines should be reasonable(20/30 euro) on the spot fines as much as possible instead of creating paper work and then dragging heads into the courts for non payments.

    I may have also posted that masks be given to the offenders right there and then at the time of the offence so that in many ways they are just buying expensive masks. Encourage them to wear masks by giving them masks. Don't just fine them ane leave them at a loss.

    The 4E's was a total flop.

    18 mask fines issued for the whole of 2020. 468 fines issued for the whole of 2021.

    That's 486 mask fines for the whole country, shops and public transport for the entire mandatory masking period.

    Mask enforcement was next to non-existent and your having a moan that posters like me wanted much tougher enforcement. Give over.

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  • Registered Users Posts: 2,106 ✭✭✭ Xander10

    Dun laoghaire and BlackRock area. Are OAPs not generally still wearing masks in supermarkets in your area?

  • Registered Users Posts: 1,272 ✭✭✭ pottokblue

    I'm missing the masks on public transport some geezer unfamiliar with cough etiquette coughed and sneezed all over me on the way to work the other night. I'm hoping monkeypox doesnt appear in our public transport system.

  • Registered Users Posts: 4,200 ✭✭✭ jacdaniel2014

    Honest question, would you like masks to be made mandatory for others?

  • Registered Users Posts: 4,200 ✭✭✭ jacdaniel2014

    Homelezz, we now have 2 posts on this very page. 1 of those posts admits out straight that he wanted the mask mandate extended and wanted to see more enforcement and fines. The other admits they miss the mandatory masks which implies they would like them back.

    Surely you would have to agree at this point that some posters are simply not content with wearing their own masks, they want to make it mandatory for others also.

    Let me know your thoughts please.

  • Registered Users Posts: 1,272 ✭✭✭ pottokblue

    no optional is ok with me but if you're symptomatic coughing sneezing i'd prefer you carry the mask and yes it might only be hayfever or an allergy that you have but how am I to know if you have corona or pox

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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,272 ✭✭✭ pottokblue

    I'm off for some sleep will be wearing an eyemask for same.

  • Registered Users Posts: 1,445 ✭✭✭ Seanergy

    You still haven't grasped it have you. I wanted to see more compliance and I didn't want to see more enforcement I wanted to see enforcement.

    The forcing others to wear masks never really took off, it never really happened and if you think that it did your delusional. Under 500 fines for the totally of the mask mandate is pathetic.

    Have some perspective please.

    A couple of hundred thousand speeding fines were isssued in the same period. Which resulted in more deaths??

  • Registered Users Posts: 1,445 ✭✭✭ Seanergy

    I miss my X from time to time but hell that doesn't imply I would like them back. Your some leap frogger.

  • Registered Users Posts: 1,445 ✭✭✭ Seanergy

    Calling me out, LOL for sharing a spanking new HSE advert before it aired on the telly without comment, get over yourself.

    Your opinion on it #7255 didn't offer any "badly needed perspective or balance" BTW.

    Pray tell what was so 'moronic' about it then?

  • Registered Users Posts: 1,445 ✭✭✭ Seanergy

    No, you actually don't "get it". Youv'e been unable to grasp the differences.

    It was the law breakers, the people who were not willing to wear masks that "were't content" to "just wear one".

    Public health "wanted people to wear masks" and get fined if they didn't.

  • Registered Users Posts: 1,445 ✭✭✭ Seanergy

    The "condescending nonsense" ain't comnig from the HSE advert, that's for sure.

    A Luas employee offering to open a window and doing so for a customer makes "no sense in the real world"??

    Also contrary to your fantasy opening paragarph, the "individual" was making appropriate decisions as they were masked in FFP2.

    How does that opening scene "attempt to make "someone else" responsible for an individual's personal choices and vulnerabilities"?

    Opening scene and your opening paragragh don't match.

    Do you actually watch it?

  • Registered Users Posts: 1,072 ✭✭✭ fun loving criminal

    I hardly ever agree with you but you're right about this add. I absolutely hate it. We are gone from protecting each other, that messaging is long gone.

    What gets me is they still haven't moved on to protecting oneself. HSE still has a choice between medical mask or respirator mask and they're both equal in protectiveness. At this stage, we all know respirator masks are better. Medical masks are useless with the gaps at the sides. But yet there is still a choice on the HSE website.

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  • Registered Users Posts: 2,182 ✭✭✭ xhomelezz

    Next time, you can use copy and paste, like that you'll manage to do not forget any letter in the nicknames.

    I think you are still not able to read the posts here. Stop overthinking it, that would be my advice.

    Post you are referring to is clear to me. Seanergy said there should have been proper enforcement in action when mask mandate was on. Which I fully agree with. Way too many clowns were just taking a pìss and wouldn't follow any of the guidelines.

    As for getting mask mandate extended, well I think he just posted his opinion, that is was lifted too early.

    And if I speak just for myself, I didn't give a damn, if it was lifted too soon, or too late, or whatever. Mandate was lifted and that's it. I do wear as good mask as possible, when needed. Was doing it before mask mandate and doing it still. Do I care, if you wear one? No I don't. Wouldn't even expect you wear one, choking hazard is a real danger in your case imo.

    One thing I know for sure is, thank fook that bug is mutating the way it is so far. After reading your comments and some others, we would be fooked, if it turned different way.

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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,445 ✭✭✭ Seanergy

    Your awfully fond of requesting people to read your posts again, get over yourself.

    The advert is about not knowing who's at risk from Covid-19 and serves as a reminder to that, that's all. They even say as much and no more. The rest, your twisted interpretation, is in your head.

    Your calling the advert "unrealistic condescneding nonsese" yet your not shy with contributions like "because bless her she couldn't do that herself".

    A Luas employee informing someone that they are going to open a window behind them does not amount to sexism or shifting responsibilty. That action has nothing to do with masked people not being able to look after themselves. Total bullwackery on your part.

    Imagine the bus driver not waiting to open the doors when your getting off and stepping into a cycling lane because a cyclist is approaching the door at high speed and you might walk out on them.

  • Registered Users Posts: 26,937 ✭✭✭✭ _Kaiser_

    More toys eh? You REALLY just can't deal with differing opinions can you, yet you have no issue crying foul when your attitude is called out. As for complaining about my contributions - yup, because on a discussion forum you are pretty much EXPECTED to offer one. Posting random links and sitting back hoping for the likes doesn't really work in this format. As I said before, maybe you need a blog?

    Watch the bits I referenced again. Watch the relieved sigh from the woman on the LUAS after our hero opens the window. Now tell me that's not condescending and sexist. I'm sure she could well have opened it herself if she wanted to/was bothered enough! Do you disagree?

    FLC above summed it up pretty well in fairness. We are well beyond the "look out for others" point here. Now it should be "look after yourself" and take the appropriate measures to do so with appropriate advice from their doctor or as he/she suggests, the HSE website.. just as I (and others) have been saying pretty much all along!

  • Registered Users Posts: 1,445 ✭✭✭ Seanergy

    Still with the condescending crap, referncing throwing toys, again, implying I'm a baby no doubt. Your such a grown up.

    Pinning your argument on a you know what her sigh means...LOL

    Not sure who the "we" is yourself and FLC are content to generalise about but it ain't all of us so best not paint it that way regardless of what you or others "have been saying pretty much all along".

  • Registered Users Posts: 1,190 ✭✭✭ dalyboy

    Ryanair have announced that they are no longer mandating onboard mask wearing .

    WELL … before anyone celebrates the airline finally coming to their senses they have maintained the mandate in the countries that require masks for public transport.

    So the transport perma-mask countries are Austria, Cyprus, Estonia, France, Germany, Greece, Italy, Latvia, Lithuania, Luxembourg, Malta, the Netherlands, Portugal and Spain.

    it’s a pity Micheal O’Leary doesn’t grow a spine against this nonsense and loosen up the rules for passengers and also staff.

  • Registered Users Posts: 2,156 ✭✭✭ Ceepo

    My daughter and son travelled to Italy and the Netherlands respectively ove the past two weeks, both on Ryanair. Almost nobody wear a mask save for a few people.

    It was also the same when travelling in both countries on trains. While they're might be a "requirement" in both countries, it wasn't the reality on the ground

  • Registered Users Posts: 6,434 ✭✭✭ Goldengirl

  • Registered Users Posts: 3,126 ✭✭✭ VG31

    Masks haven't been required on public transport in the Netherlands since March. The Dutch government technically still required masks on flights and in airports until last week but it was unenforced. KLM even said they would no longer enforce masks wearing from March despite the Dutch goverment's rules.

    That list is not up to date. France, Estonia and the Netherlands do not require masks on public transport. Austria and Greece are dropping mask rules from 1 June.

    Aer Lingus' list is up to date:

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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,445 ✭✭✭ Seanergy

    So you don't think their is enough/any mask enforcement in airports or on flights. Noted.

    Speaking about mask mandates, Dublin airport haven't fared so well since the mandate was lifted, chaos there today.

    At the beginning of April DAA blamed the long queues on high staff absence rates due to Covid-19 and on difficulties in attracting new staff.

    In part the mask mandate was lifted too early.