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Who thinks Trump will win?

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  • Registered Users Posts: 3,495 ✭✭✭Pa ElGrande


    Net Zero means we are paying for the destruction of our economy and society in pursuit of an unachievable and pointless policy.



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,407 ✭✭✭westdublin




    A great watch, some really good insights into Trump and his family.
    I know its a little long and definitely not for everyone especially the relation at 24:40 :eek:


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 273 ✭✭Hqrry113


    Who bloody cares trump or biden it doesn't matter the people who really run the country are behind the scenes, any change in the country since trump took over good or bad is purely coincidental.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,407 ✭✭✭westdublin


    At least one Nobel looking even more assured as each day passes for President Trump in 2021.


    https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1319683876046934016

    Hold on for a minute Peter, wasn't it Jared who was tasked with the Middle East problem ?
    So why would donnie get the Peace Prize when Jared was the one who was working on it ?

    Surely you wouldnt want another peace prize to go to a president who didnt work to deserve it ?


  • Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 11,840 Mod ✭✭✭✭iamstop


    ELM327 wrote: »
    Ooh, edgy. That's not divisive at all.

    When you declare yourself a Trump fan, you've already divided yourself from rational people.

    Sorry, not sorry.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 8,449 ✭✭✭Call Me Jimmy


    westdublin wrote: »
    How do you feel about Trump getting treatment in private medical facility funded with tax payers dollars and then been flown about 10 miles on a private helicopter funded by tax paying dollars to be then admitted to another private hospital funded by tax paying dollars.

    And all this for free ? Sounds very socialist to me.

    It's nothing to do with socialism. Bernie and AOC are socialists but they are either intentionally or through ignorance trying to equate social democracy with socialism. That's a ridiculous notion and it's not surprising it was put out by Bernie Sanders thinking it was some sort of intellectual blow against Trump and the tards. I said he and AOC are socialists and I oppose them for it. I even said on an unrelated topic that I don't care if the US has socialised medicine.

    Support of AOC and Bernie mirrors the worst of the worst of the Trump support imo. We got a dose of this as soon as I mentioned socialism: a Vox article as a primer on democratic socialism(!) accompanied by a slay queen AOC gif and a misguided spiel on mccarthyism by someone who doesn't understand what that was - or else they believe AOC and Bernie aren't socialists.

    If people are going to argue with me at least tell me if you arguing for socialism or social democracy instead of this disingenuous dance between the two ala AOC Bernie. I don't even know much about it, never did economics or anything but I know there is a lot of bull**** out there that seems to be mainstream.


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 9,669 Mod ✭✭✭✭Manach


    In this closing stretch, based on the final debate US Conservatives (from browsing the Reddit forum) are now fairly optimistic that Trump now has the momentum to win. Biden's quip on the fate of the Oil industry has been a God's send.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,982 ✭✭✭MeMen2_MoRi_


    It's nothing to do with socialism. Bernie and AOC are socialists but they are either intentionally or through ignorance trying to equate social democracy with socialism. That's a ridiculous notion and it's not surprising it was put out by Bernie Sanders thinking it was some sort of intellectual blow against Trump and the tards. I said he and AOC are socialists and I oppose them for it. I even said on an unrelated topic that I don't care if the US has socialised medicine.

    Support of AOC and Bernie mirrors the worst of the worst of the Trump support imo. We got a dose of this as soon as I mentioned socialism: a Vox article as a primer on democratic socialism(!) accompanied by a slay queen AOC gif and a misguided spiel on mccarthyism by someone who doesn't understand what that was - or else they believe AOC and Bernie aren't socialists.

    If people are going to argue with me at least tell me if you arguing for socialism or social democracy instead of this disingenuous dance between the two ala AOC Bernie. I don't even know much about it, never did economics or anything but I know there is a lot of bull**** out there that seems to be mainstream.

    Do you regards blue run states funding red run states as socialism?

    Blue states, they're able to fund and look after themselves versus red states totally beholden to the tax dollar of the fed..

    In my book, that is socialism.. the rich looking after the poor to help them get better..


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 125 ✭✭OS_Head


    Blue states, they're able to fund and look after themselves versus red states totally beholden to the tax dollar of the fed.

    Some one must be telling you porky pies.
    530350.jpg


  • Registered Users Posts: 23,481 ✭✭✭✭Kermit.de.frog


    westdublin wrote: »


    A great watch, some really good insights into Trump and his family.
    I know its a little long and definitely not for everyone especially the relation at 24:40 :eek:

    Fascinating but very disturbing accounts of Trump there.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 154 ✭✭JohnnyKq


    Fascinating but very disturbing accounts of Trump there.

    He still is likely to upset the bookies like last time


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,407 ✭✭✭westdublin


    Do you regards blue run states funding red run states as socialism?

    Blue states, they're able to fund and look after themselves versus red states totally beholden to the tax dollar of the fed..

    In my book, that is socialism.. the rich looking after the poor to help them get better..

    Exactly, at its very core its everyone paying their fair share so that the less fortunate don't get left behind.

    Its become such a dirty buzz word that people forget that if you grew up in Ireland you are a product of socialism in some shape or form.

    So when Trump and other decry solcialism and then take their private public funded helicopters to their private public funded hospitals and receive the best medicare that money can buy, all at the expense of other tax payers then you have to laugh at the hypocrisy


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,982 ✭✭✭MeMen2_MoRi_


    OS_Head wrote: »
    Some one must be telling you porky pies.
    530350.jpg

    https://www.money-rates.com/research-center/federal-income-taxes-by-state.htm

    Not sure where your screen grab is from.. compare it to the above..


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,033 ✭✭✭pearcider


    Do you regards blue run states funding red run states as socialism?

    Blue states, they're able to fund and look after themselves versus red states totally beholden to the tax dollar of the fed..

    In my book, that is socialism.. the rich looking after the poor to help them get better..

    This post couldn’t be more incorrect. It’s blue states that need the bailout


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,407 ✭✭✭westdublin


    Fascinating but very disturbing accounts of Trump there.

    Really puts a lot into perspective and I wonder how many people will be willing to still support him after he leaves the White House and all the sordid little details start to come out.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,982 ✭✭✭MeMen2_MoRi_


    westdublin wrote: »
    Exactly, at its very core its everyone paying their fair share so that the less fortunate don't get left behind.

    Its become such a dirty buzz word that people forget that if you grew up in Ireland you are a product of socialism in some shape or form.

    So when Trump and other decry solcialism and then take their private public funded helicopters to their private public funded hospitals and receive the best medicare that money can buy, all at the expense of other tax payers then you have to laugh at the hypocrisy

    Where are the best research done for drug components that lead to great medicines come from? Remind me again, are they funded by the tax payer... I'm pretty sure they are..

    Plain old bull from, yeah corps do this they do that.. the hard leg work is usually done by way of tax money.. socialism if you're being totally honest with yourself first, and in a discussion second.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 154 ✭✭JohnnyKq


    westdublin wrote: »
    Really puts a lot into perspective and I wonder how many people will be willing to still support him after he leaves the White House and all the sordid little details start to come out.

    If he leaves the Whitehouse. Remember he has not confirmed he will leave if he suspects fraud in the elections


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,407 ✭✭✭westdublin


    JohnnyKq wrote: »
    If he leaves the Whitehouse. Remember he has not confirmed he will leave if he suspects fraud in the elections

    Yeah I can't see him ever having the balls to go through with that idiot statement.
    He knows his base wants to hear that tuff guy talk but in reality he never follows through on anything he threatens to do.

    I am sure there would be some military personal all too willing to drag him kicking and screaming if it ever did come to that.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,033 ✭✭✭pearcider


    westdublin wrote: »
    Really puts a lot into perspective and I wonder how many people will be willing to still support him after he leaves the White House and all the sordid little details start to come out.

    Yawn another hatchet job on Trump by people trying to be accepted into the woke brigade. Never mind Bidens corruption going back decades and the fact that he’s in the pocket of Communist China.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,982 ✭✭✭MeMen2_MoRi_


    JohnnyKq wrote: »
    If he leaves the Whitehouse. Remember he has not confirmed he will leave if he suspects fraud in the elections

    Donnie has conformed...

    Corruption, he is head and shoulders deep in it..


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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,407 ✭✭✭westdublin


    pearcider wrote: »
    Yawn another hatchet job on Trump by people trying to be accepted into the woke brigade. Never mind Bidens corruption going back decades and the fact that he’s in the pocket of Communist China.

    Which bit ? The bit of him ****ting his pants ? The drug abuse ? The corruption ?

    Which bits do you find unbelievable and which did you find plausible ?

    Most if not all of it from someones with first hand knowledge :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 154 ✭✭JohnnyKq


    Donnie has conformed...

    Corruption, he is head and shoulders deep in it..

    I do not disagree with you. I'm sure his tax affairs may shed some light on this if they were made available that is


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 416 ✭✭vojiwox


    Trump is a snake oil salesman. He promises things he never delivers just like his tax returns - always coming soon.

    https://twitter.com/ProjectLincoln/status/1319656235981959169

    He's a con man.

    The "we've two plans" is comedic gold. Great comic timing! Would watch again. :D


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,033 ✭✭✭pearcider


    westdublin wrote: »
    Which bit ? The bit of him ****ting his pants ? The drug abuse ? The corruption ?

    Which bits do you find unbelievable and which did you find plausible ?

    Most if not all of it from someones with first hand knowledge :D

    Just another hatchet job. I would rate this guys testimony a little bit higher if it wasn’t an election year when he comes out. You can be guaranteed he’s a lifelong democrat voter with only liberal woke people in his social circle though so I wouldn’t rate it anyway.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 154 ✭✭JohnnyKq


    vojiwox wrote: »
    The "we've two plans" is comedic gold. Great comic timing! Would watch again. :D

    Looking forward to seeing on UK TV Gold alright


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,407 ✭✭✭westdublin


    pearcider wrote: »
    Just another hatchet job. I would rate this guys testimony a little bit higher if it wasn’t an election year when he comes out. You can be guaranteed he’s a lifelong democrat voter with only liberal woke people in his social circle though so I wouldn’t rate it anyway.

    Haha you should really watch it, if you did you would have seen the bit where he mentions he is a Republican voter and has been telling everyone since 2016 when Trump first decided to run as he felt people really needed to know what he was like behind closed doors.

    Also you haven't told me which parts you found questionable


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,982 ✭✭✭MeMen2_MoRi_


    JohnnyKq wrote: »
    I do not disagree with you. I'm sure his tax affairs may shed some light on this if they were made available that is

    Nothing to do with tax returns.. his corruption is there in plain sight..


  • Registered Users Posts: 681 ✭✭✭Pelezico


    I hope he wins.....pure comedy gold


  • Registered Users Posts: 8,449 ✭✭✭Call Me Jimmy


    Do you regards blue run states funding red run states as socialism?

    Blue states, they're able to fund and look after themselves versus red states totally beholden to the tax dollar of the fed..

    In my book, that is socialism.. the rich looking after the poor to help them get better..

    No I don't. I'd want to look into it but it's a form of redistribution of wealth between states, not socialism. If the US was socialist there'd be no reason for democratic socialists of america.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 154 ✭✭JohnnyKq


    Pelezico wrote: »
    I hope he wins.....pure comedy gold

    Bad news for US multinationals in Ireland. He will bring home all these jobs in next 4 years


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