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Wokeism of the day *Revised Mod Note in OP and threadbanned users*

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  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Your post just reeks of white privilege..

    Did you just assume his race? Being too pale doesn't automatically mean he's white. He just might not be dark enough. :D


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 7,151 Mod ✭✭✭✭cdeb


    Omackeral will be thrilled by this I'm sure, but Bohemians have appointed a "Climate Justice Officer" - https://bohemianfc.com/?p=16076

    The "Justice" part of it hurts my eyes the most. Bohs still playing to the hipster gallery as hard as they can


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,105 ✭✭✭Kivaro


    cdeb wrote: »
    Omackeral will be thrilled by this I'm sure, but Bohemians have appointed a "Climate Justice Officer" - https://bohemianfc.com/?p=16076

    The "Justice" part of it hurts my eyes the most. Bohs still playing to the hipster gallery as hard as they can

    Are they going to take a Climate Justice knee before every game?


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    cdeb wrote: »
    Omackeral will be thrilled by this I'm sure, but Bohemians have appointed a "Climate Justice Officer" - https://bohemianfc.com/?p=16076

    The "Justice" part of it hurts my eyes the most. Bohs still playing to the hipster gallery as hard as they can

    That has made my day, surreal but very funny. Click on the link and there is a bearded chap wearing a jersey with "Refugees Welcome" :)

    Surely this is some wind-up Titania McGrath style no? I always remember Boh's being a rough old crowd, the northside equivalent to Rovers skangers.

    I would have preferred if they spent their resources on getting a coach or equipment for youngsters, like a normal sports club would do.


  • Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 20,862 Mod ✭✭✭✭inforfun


    That is an awful amount of characters used to say absolutely nothing in that bohemians link.


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  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 7,151 Mod ✭✭✭✭cdeb


    I would have preferred if they spent their resources on getting a coach or equipment for youngsters, like a normal sports club would do.

    He's probably a volunteer in fairness.

    But I agree with inforfun on the vacuousness. Particularly the quote -
    It is very exciting to see Bohs seeking to play a leadership role in tackling climate change.

    That comes from someone who needs a very long stint in Douglas Adams' Total Perspective Vortex.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    cdeb wrote: »
    Omackeral will be thrilled by this I'm sure, but Bohemians have appointed a "Climate Justice Officer" - https://bohemianfc.com/?p=16076

    The "Justice" part of it hurts my eyes the most. Bohs still playing to the hipster gallery as hard as they can

    How bigoted of them to give the job to a white man by the way.


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 7,151 Mod ✭✭✭✭cdeb


    Bohs are in Europe this year actually.

    I assume they'll swim to Holyhead and get the train from there rather than fly. Climate Change Justice, you know.


  • Registered Users Posts: 32,956 ✭✭✭✭Omackeral


    cdeb wrote: »
    Omackeral will be thrilled by this I'm sure, but Bohemians have appointed a "Climate Justice Officer" - https://bohemianfc.com/?p=16076

    The "Justice" part of it hurts my eyes the most. Bohs still playing to the hipster gallery as hard as they can

    I’m not gonna lie. It’s awful. The position itself is fine but announcing it like a new signing when all anyone who gives a sh*t about football cares about is actual signings is annoying. But worst of all, as you’ve said, is the “justice” part. What’s wrong with Climate Officer. Plenty of fans and members of the club are discussing it colourfully right now let me tell you.

    Here’s the thing though, this stuff barely ever permeates the match day experience. The place is still full of working class northsiders and the bars afterwards are what I’d lovingly call scauldy. The woke stuff seems to get big publicity. In the past yew years, our fan base and attendances have grown exponentially. At the same time, you won’t be able to go there without bumping into people from the UK, Germany and Netherlands who have come over having bought tickets months in advance. So all in all, it’s good marketing but Jesus it makes us easy targets!


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    Omackeral wrote: »
    I’m not gonna lie. It’s awful. The position itself is fine but announcing it like a new signing when all anyone who gives a sh*t about football cares about is actual signings is annoying. But worst of all, as you’ve said, is the “justice” part. What’s wrong with Climate Officer. Plenty of fans and members of the club are discussing it colourfully right now let me tell you.

    Here’s the thing though, this stuff barely ever permeates the match day experience. The place is still full of working class northsiders and the bars afterwards are what I’d lovingly call scauldy. The woke stuff seems to get big publicity. In the past yew years, our fan base and attendances have grown exponentially. At the same time, you won’t be able to go there without bumping into people from the UK, Germany and Netherlands who have come over having bought tickets months in advance. So all in all, it’s good marketing but Jesus it makes us easy targets!

    I don't know if it's intentional or not, but this type of stuff is exactly how I would imagine a "Bohemian Football Club" if it was established today. Not the Boh's people know about, but a bunch of Trinity poetry students smoking pipes after the game and comparing leg breaking tackles with the fighting style of MacBeth.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 32,956 ✭✭✭✭Omackeral


    I’d be shocked if many people in the F and G sections of the Jodi Stand have even finished secondary school, let alone be able to quote Shakespeare


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 7,151 Mod ✭✭✭✭cdeb


    Omackeral wrote: »
    So all in all, it’s good marketing but Jesus it makes us easy targets!
    I think that sums it up neatly enough.

    Best of luck to any LoI club looking to increase their gates - and Bohs have done that in recent years.

    And if you're ok with me mocking Bohs over it (and I need all the ammo I can get after that 10-1 defeat 18 months ago...), then that's a deal.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,010 ✭✭✭kildare lad


    Sorcha Pollak back at it again.



    This just boils my p*ss.




    It's good he's convinced of his talents. Between that and the education, there is no reason why he shouldn't get a job eventually but given the times that we are in, things of course are going to be slow. When I moved away in 08 to Holland i found it hard to get a job for first few months I was there. Same with London but yet again it's all put down to racism. Im getting sick of this now. He's only benefiting from this to suit his ego and build his image.



    https://www.irishtimes.com/life-and-style/people/i-need-to-work-twice-as-hard-to-get-a-job-in-ireland-1.4455346

    He's only here a wet weak for God sake. Are they that incapable of achieving anything on there own without wanting to be provided with everything??? Do I really want to hear about people who came here during a financial boom and instead of working hard to provide for themselves , they decided to have a child, head down to the social welfare office and get a free house and continued to have lots of kids so the government will give them more money. No thanks....


  • Registered Users Posts: 10,527 ✭✭✭✭EmmetSpiceland


    Omackeral wrote: »
    I’d be shocked if many people in the F and G sections of the Jodi Stand have even finished secondary school, let alone be able to quote Shakespeare

    It strikes me as a bit unfair, and unnecessary, to be “highlighting” their ignorance. More than a bit, even.
    cdeb wrote: »
    Best of luck to any LoI club looking to increase their gates - and Bohs have done that in recent years.

    I have to say, I’m very impressed with the level of “social conscience” Bohemians have shown over the last while. Very impressed.

    I’m not saying they’ll have got a new “supporter”, I backed UCD awhile back so that’s that. But it’s very nice to see.

    Would you put this new inclusive “outlook” as a reason for an improvement in gate receipts? I, myself, still believe that the mass exodus of ex-Man United fans from their “sinking ship” would have played a huge part but, if I’m wrong, then it really puts paid to the phrase, oft quoted in here, of ‘Go Woke, Go Broke’.

    The tide is turning…



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 7,151 Mod ✭✭✭✭cdeb


    I have to say, I’m very impressed with the level of “social conscience” Bohemians have shown over the last while. Very impressed.

    I’m not saying they’ll have got a new “supporter”, I backed UCD awhile back so that’s that. But it’s very nice to see.

    Would you put this new inclusive “outlook” as a reason for an improvement in gate receipts? I, myself, still believe that the mass exodus of ex-Man United fans from their “sinking ship” would have played a huge part but, if I’m wrong, then it really puts paid to the phrase, oft quoted in here, of ‘Go Woke, Go Broke’.

    Why do you put so many "words" in inverted "commas"?

    The problem with this kind of social conscience twaddle is that it makes people think they're doing something positive when they're not really. But they feel good, and that's the most important part to what is generally a very selfish species. It's otherwise completely meaningless. But if you're happy to get taken in by the warm glow of unsubstantiatable positive associations, then go for it I guess.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,075 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    He's only here a wet weak for God sake. Are they that incapable of achieving anything on there own without wanting to be provided with everything???
    Two things follow hard on the coattails of any form of identity politics: a skewed sense of victimhood and a skewed sense of entitlement: I deserve more because of my identity and if I don't get it it's because of my identity. And because there most certainly can be some discrimination towards different identities that position is reinforced, which in turn ramps up the victimhood and entitlement. Rinse and repeat.

    Plus it is in the interest of the cheerleaders for the various identity politics groups to keep pushing these buttons, so journalist who specialises in reporting on a single subject and relies on that subject for a pay check and attention will of course push the same buttons.

    This is the same newspaper that carried this article about social housing residents in leafy suburbia complaining that they didn't have access to the on site gym and of course put an immigrant front and centre
    . It then gained some legs on RTE and Newstalk. Terrible Joe, just terrible. Then it turned out it seems the same guy was only in Ireland for less than two years after having left Canada complaining about racism there* and yet in that time he got a luxury apartment for feck all on the social housing list? How many Irish people have waited years? This guy gets one in short order and then has the barefaced cheek to complain? Victimhood and entitlement.

    Did the same paper reinvestigate that? Oh no. Doesn't suit the narrative. Same with this journalism graduate from Nigeria. A trade that is famed for nepotism and more about who you know, especially in such a tiny country and tiny industry like Ireland's. Yet he expects to rock up and get a job in the business? Eh... And he will have enough people reinforcing his victimhood and entitlement and he will use it to his advantage if he can. Well who wouldn't? Never mind the suggestion of racism in of all things the Irish media which will bend over backwards to appear as "woke" as possible is beyond laughable. No doubt he'll get some unpaid intern job or a few articles thrown his way, for the clicks and the virtue.






    *The fool had a twitter account going on about it, since deleted, but a few here got screenshots. Almost his entire feed was about race and how everything in his life was down to racism.

    Rejoice in the awareness of feeling stupid, for that’s how you end up learning new things. If you’re not aware you’re stupid, you probably are.



  • Registered Users Posts: 14,533 ✭✭✭✭MisterAnarchy


    Wibbs wrote: »
    Two things follow hard on the coattails of any form of identity politics: a skewed sense of victimhood and a skewed sense of entitlement: I deserve more because of my identity and if I don't get it it's because of my identity. And because there most certainly can be some discrimination towards different identities that position is reinforced, which in turn ramps up the victimhood and entitlement. Rinse and repeat.

    Envy was once considered to be one of the seven deadly sins before it became one of the most admired virtues under its new name, “social justice"


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 794 ✭✭✭Biker79


    cdeb wrote: »
    Why do you put so many "words" in inverted "commas"?
    .

    Just another mechanism by which the Woke continue their assault on language.

    By putting words in inverted commas, he creates the idea that words are interpreted subjectively. You might have an idea of what it means, that you know is true because the majority are in agreement on this, but he and others know it means something else.

    It creates doubt in the mind of the reader, whether what they hold to be true is actually true or not.

    Ultimately ( or long before then ) they, of course, are peddling rubbish. There is only objective truth in the search for meaning and order because several billion subjective truths is a recipe for complete chaos.

    You can be sure they haven't examined their habits this rigorously though because feelings come first with the Woke.

    Care to respond to this, "Emmaspiceland "? I won't hold my breath.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,348 ✭✭✭1800_Ladladlad


    Pollak and the many other incessant virtue signalers are continuously trying to out woke each other with their white guilt articles race-baiting in the process. Pollak has promoted the likes of Bulelani Mfaco, and he has have been on RTE etc

    Bulelani Mfaco is a spokesperson for Movement of Asylum Seekers in Ireland (MASI), who claims to have fled the persecution of gay and LGBT+ people in South Africa to move to Ireland. Mfaco has described the system as deliberate marginalization of migrants and akin to racial segregation. In 2015 after he got his degree in politics and public administration from the University of the Western Cape. He applied for a scholarship for a master's degree in University College Dublin and moved to Ireland in 2015, after completing his masters in 2017 Mfaco applied for asylum in Ireland with the claim of having experienced homophobia and attacks in South Africa before he came to Ireland to study in 2015. He was then moved into a Direct Provision center in Dublin. He has since lived in centers in Clare and Limerick. His application for asylum was rejected in July 2019, which he is appealing.


    Iris Times:
    When an asylum seeker is called a welfare scrounger, it is racist. The policy of direct provision also frames asylum seekers in this light. Today, it is accepted as normal that once I’ve finished writing this article, I must turn to the contractor appointed by the Government to run the direct provision centre where I live, paid for with Irish people’s tax money, and ask them for sugar so I can make myself a cup of tea. This must end.

    A passion for the melodramatics. :rolleyes:

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    "Institutionalized inhumanity: Direct Provision & the Threshold of Inhuman Treatment"

    That is a failed asylum seeker who has just been offered a Ph.D. in grievance studies at a well-to-do Irish university, that's as useful as cake in a crisis, something that will not benefit the taxpayer nor add to our economy but of course paid for by the horrible hard-working decent Irish.

    I would not be surprised given the amount of coverage this man has been given that when he completes his Ph.D. he will no doubt be in the IT stating that he can't get a job because of the inhumane system which afforded him the opportunity to do his Masters and now a Doctorate all while being a failed asylum seeker. because of racism.

    Ebun better watch her corner of the market


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,213 ✭✭✭Mic 1972


    I feel like we are sleeping walking into the American regime


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,023 ✭✭✭Gruffalux


    Mic 1972 wrote: »
    I feel like we are sleeping walking into the American regime

    But won't that be fabulous? Aren't we so relieved? Are tears not streaming down our faces that the adults are back in the room? Has the Second Coming not happened? Is it not glorious? :P


  • Registered Users Posts: 8,170 ✭✭✭Quantum Erasure



    That is a failed asylum seeker who has just been offered a Ph.D. in grievance studies at a well-to-do Irish university, that's as useful as cake in a crisis, something that will not benefit the taxpayer nor add to our economy but of course paid for by the horrible hard-working decent Irish.

    I would not be surprised given the amount of coverage this man has been given that when he completes his Ph.D. he will no doubt be in the IT stating that he can't get a job because of the inhumane system which afforded him the opportunity to do his Masters and now a Doctorate all while being a failed asylum seeker. because of racism.

    Ebun better watch her corner of the market

    https://twitter.com/katiehannigan/status/1167529883456724992


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,213 ✭✭✭Mic 1972


    Pollak and the many other incessant virtue signalers are continuously trying to out woke each other with their white guilt articles race-baiting in the process. Pollak has promoted the likes of Bulelani Mfaco, and he has have been on RTE etc

    Bulelani Mfaco is a spokesperson for Movement of Asylum Seekers in Ireland (MASI), who claims to have fled the persecution of gay and LGBT+ people in South Africa to move to Ireland. Mfaco has described the system as deliberate marginalization of migrants and akin to racial segregation. In 2015 after he got his degree in politics and public administration from the University of the Western Cape. He applied for a scholarship for a master's degree in University College Dublin and moved to Ireland in 2015, after completing his masters in 2017 Mfaco applied for asylum in Ireland with the claim of having experienced homophobia and attacks in South Africa before he came to Ireland to study in 2015. He was then moved into a Direct Provision center in Dublin. He has since lived in centers in Clare and Limerick. His application for asylum was rejected in July 2019, which he is appealing.


    Iris Times:


    A passion for the melodramatics. :rolleyes:

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    jhgf

    EsNd_JCXUAI0zyh?format=jpg&name=large
    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EsNd_JCXUAI0zyh?format=jpg&name=large

    "Institutionalized inhumanity: Direct Provision & the Threshold of Inhuman Treatment"

    That is a failed asylum seeker who has just been offered a Ph.D. in grievance studies at a well-to-do Irish university, that's as useful as cake in a crisis, something that will not benefit the taxpayer nor add to our economy but of course paid for by the horrible hard-working decent Irish.

    I would not be surprised given the amount of coverage this man has been given that when he completes his Ph.D. he will no doubt be in the IT stating that he can't get a job because of the inhumane system which afforded him the opportunity to do his Masters and now a Doctorate all while being a failed asylum seeker. because of racism.

    Ebun better watch her corner of the market




    South Africa was the first country in the world to outlaw discrimination based on sexual orientation, and South Africa was the fifth country in the world to legalise same-sex marriage.


    Why is he even seeking asylum in Europe in the first place?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,474 ✭✭✭Obvious Desperate Breakfasts


    What a bloody cop out - I've a B.sc and an MSc. which is highly geared to towards my field, I'd say I've applied to over 150 jobs in the last 6 months, the majority of them supposedly "entry level" and have got nothing. All that effort in all that time has netted 3 interviews of which I got none. And this is in the pharma industry which Ireland is renowned for, there are probably X10 the number of potential jobs for me than journalism gigs for him and still I've got nothing. It's not racism, it's a terrible time to be looking for everyone. You just have to dust yourself off and keep trying.

    But what's my card to play? That I'm too pale, male and stale? As if anyone in the media would give a fúck about my struggle to find employment.

    Indeed. Journalism is an incredibly competitive field. Most people who want to work in it never will because there just aren’t enough jobs.

    Good luck with your pharma job hunt. I’ve been there.


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    Mic 1972 wrote: »
    South Africa was the first country in the world to outlaw discrimination based on sexual orientation, and South Africa was the fifth country in the world to legalise same-sex marriage.


    Why is he even seeking asylum in Europe in the first place?

    "The country has some of the most progressive laws in the world, but refugees fleeing homophobia elsewhere often find a country that is morally conservative, hostile, and profoundly violent."

    "Our finding is that the reinscription of homophobia in an era of the ascendancy of human rights discourse has been chiefly in terms of three potent legitimising tropes – homosexuality as ‘unAfrican’, ‘unGodly’, and ‘unnatural’"

    Just because laws are changed, doesn't mean that society will match it. There's a massive gap between what people think about homosexuality, and the failed promises of the various government agencies.

    Easy enough to find out.

    TBH I suspect we're going to see something similar here with regards to racism. The government presenting one view with laws to punish perceived racism, but a major lag where the general population becomes more 'reactive' to claims of racism. Anti-immigration groups will likely increase substantially over the next decade.


  • Registered Users Posts: 81,223 ✭✭✭✭biko


    Mfaco grew up in Khayelitsha in Cape Town.
    He has a degree in politics and public administration from the University of the Western Cape.

    He applied for a scholarship for a master degree in University College Dublin and moved to Ireland in 2015.
    Mfaco applied for asylum in Ireland after completing his masters in 2017.

    I don't doubt life as a gay man in SA can be hard but tbh it doesn't seem to warrant refugee status.
    Khayelitsha is very poor though.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    He's one bad Mfaco..


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    biko wrote: »
    I don't doubt life as a gay man in SA can be hard but tbh it doesn't seem to warrant refugee status..

    TBF if we opened up asylum to every gay person who had problems in their country, we'd be swamped. Homophobia, and discrimination against gay people is widespread throughout the world. The two most populous continents are also the places with the most conservative cultures, and aggressive approaches to gay people.

    If we present the West as being the perfect place for gay people to be.. most of them will want to come here. Simple enough really. Further exasperating the decline in population growth, while increasing the numbers of people who will need social supports, and increase the demands on the nations infrastructure.

    Don't get me wrong. Most gay men I know are quite successful in their fields, but we have to look beyond pure economics, and consider what the population of Europe/Ireland will be like in 20/30/50 years time. How do we want to influence the makeup of that population?

    There are other countries with reasonably stable and favorable (while not exactly welcoming) cultures towards gay people, sprinkled throughout the world. TBH we should be asking why refugees skip those countries which are closer to them, to take the longer travel to the West.. and whether we really want to be the ambition for everyone to move to?


  • Registered Users Posts: 81,223 ✭✭✭✭biko


    It has become an industry now.
    You just needed enough people to profit from calling Ireland a racist nation for it to start.
    Now they sell books and talks to address an issue that wasn't there only some years ago.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 24,812 ✭✭✭✭Strumms


    biko wrote: »
    It has become an industry now.
    You just needed enough people to profit from calling Ireland a racist nation for it to start.
    Now they sell books and talks to address an issue that wasn't there only some years ago.

    What if I am as a Dublin and Irish person (I am), abused because of sexual orientation or other reasons, could I fly to Cape Town and seek asylum ? Seek the rewards and assistance that people can avail of arriving here.... such as money, accommodation, healthcare, free gratis, courtesy of the South Africans ?

    Without checking, I’d imagine my response on asking at immigration would be...

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