Is Paddy Cosgrove the biggest wanker in Ireland?

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121283323#Comment_121283323

Do the English people resident here have representation in the Dail? Or is it because they have their own parliament in Westminster?

Palestine, does indeed have its own government, and is officially recognised as an independent country in the eyes of every country in green below...

NewbridgeIR

I think this guy Karl is a bigger wanker

Sudden Valley

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121283391#Comment_121283391

it is not run like an independent country more like a devolved parliament. In that case like in Northern Ireland it needs representatives in the main parliament/Westminster where most of the key decisions controlling its citizens are being made.

Comparing the England and Ireland relationship and the Gaza and Israel situation regarding voting rights would only be true if you were talking about 1800's Ireland. And even at that stage the Irish could vote in Westminster elections.

Israel doesnt recognize Palestine as an independent country and doesn't treat it that way and that is all that matters to the citizens of the West Bank and Gaza.

Francis McM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121283385#Comment_121283385

Exactly. However if he knew in advance the multinationals would boycott / withdraw from the Web Summit because of his utterances on the conflict, he would probably have kept his political feelings to himself, and saved himself from having to resign etc. He presumably did not want  Google, Intel, Siemens, VW, IBM, Meta, Stripe etc to withdraw from his event, after them preparing for it, booked flights and hotel rooms etc,...so the only logical conclusion is that he is  "a naive gobsh!te". Or the the biggest wanker in Ireland, as others have suggested, see thread title.

He GREATLY underestimated the reaction from multi-nationals.

blanch152

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121283441#Comment_121283441

The problem is there are a lot more naive gobsh!tes like him around. 30% plus of the population according to the latest opinion polls.

Rubberchikken

Qhow is anyone who.ia involves in the.worls and aware of events so much a plank as to commit comments onto a social media site?

Is it arrogance or naively or downright stupidity?

A

FrancieBrady

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121283454#Comment_121283454

Whatever you do don't stand up and be counted while 5000 including 242 chilren are slaughtered and the rest starved and displaced.

I know what percentile I want to be counted in.

2smiggy

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121283113#Comment_121283113

ya, this was about Cosgrave, I linked to SF and the Hamas threads (neither of which I have much interest in reading) for ye to continue on in

FrancieBrady

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121284994#Comment_121284994

A bit too cryptic for me.

Bobson Dugnutt

I hope SF are paying you Francie. Unlike what Web Summit do with their “volunteers”.

2smiggy

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121285046#Comment_121285046

maybe another reason he fecked off to Portugal. The monthly pay there is very low and it would be probably be easier to get 'volunteers' there rather than in Ireland. What an asshole, charges fortunes for companies to attend, yet wants free labour.

FrancieBrady

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121285046#Comment_121285046

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121285057#Comment_121285057

I think the clue as to why they are 'not paid' is in the name folks - 'volunteer'. If they were paid they wouldn't be volunteers. 🙄

Cosgrave may be a fool who spoke before he thought, but you'll find it's an exchange rather than an exploitation. Nobody is being forced to do it and there is a return if you want to attend for free.

I'd imagine it's a popular volunteer programme.

Francis McM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121285089#Comment_121285089

"you'll find it's an exchange rather than an exploitation", sez you! lol

Let me get this straight. Paddy charges people between a grand and 25 grand for entry to the event, but he does not pay some of his staff there anything - not even anything towards accommodation or pocket money - because they are working at a fast paced event and have the opportunity to make "contacts and connections" . They say "We welcome people of all backgrounds and levels of ability to volunteer at Web Summit. No matter where you are, you could have the right attitude (and application) for us." So there you are, perhaps if your ability is cloak room management ( handing up coats for someone) or hygiene technician ( cleaning the toilets) you could have the opportunity to do it for free at Paddy's Web Summit ! What an honour that would be.

If you do travel there ( at your own expense of course ) and you "fail to show up for an assigned shift, your accreditation can be removed and you will be denied access to the Conference."

https://websummit.com/volunteer-terms-conditions-new

Reminds me some years ago Sinn Fein were recruiting and encouraging social media volunteers to post online on different platforms for them. Not sure if they are still doing something in that area, but they do look for " grassroots online activist"

https://www.sinnfein.ie/get-involved

Were you part of that programme Francie - are you a G.O.A.? ( grassroots online activist ), or are they paying you now? Unlike what Web Summit do with their “volunteers”?

tayto lover

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121283248#Comment_121283248

Not allowing food, medicine, water and fuel to 2 million is a sign of a Democratic country now? You're having a laugh surely but this is too sickening to be laughing about. Israel is a Terrorist state and has been for years.

FrancieBrady

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121285290#Comment_121285290

All I'd say on this latest rant, is don't try and get involved in the film business, volunteering is a huge 'in' for a lot of people in that industry and there is no shortage of people willing to do it for the returns they get.

And lets not forget our own JobBridge intern scheme, variously compared to sweatshop labour and the film 12 Years A Slave.

Personally. I think volunteering or interning is a good idea if it works for you.

I'd also point you towards most of the bigger companies in Ireland like Deloitte, Stripe, Intel and other multinationals who run intern schemes. Which is experience and opportunity in return for your labour.

This really isn't the gotcha you folk think.

2smiggy

and Portugal has a very low minimum wage as it is. something like €800 per calendar month. Not even €200 per week. I'm sure many local volunteers would prefer a reasonable level of pay rather free entry

I did not know about the volunteer situation, no wonder he is hated by many

blanch152

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121285290#Comment_121285290

No wonder Cosgrave got out of Ireland. Thanks to successive FF and FG governments, the protections for workers in place mean that he couldn't get away with that kind of exploitation.

Francis McM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121285458#Comment_121285458

Well, as someone else commented to you "I hope SF are paying you Francie. Unlike what Web Summit do with their “volunteers”. Are we to take your refusal to answer as a yes?

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121285435#Comment_121285435

Actually if you google it, you will see everyone reasonably independent and objective recognises Israel as being the most democratic country in the middle east. Would not be difficult. And yes, both the EU (of which we are a member ) and USA say that Hamas are terrorists.

Israel did supply Palestine with food, water etc even over the last number of years when Hamas were making the odd "relatively small" attack in to Israel, murdering etc. Even when Hamas in Gaza used - by their own admission - water pipes the Israelis gave them to make in to missiles, which were then used against Israel. However the events of Oct 7th changed that, when Hamas invaded Israel in a bigger scale than before, beheading, raping, burning babies, and kidnapping 222 back to Gaza. What country has ever supplied its enemy? Israel is now right to stop, they should have stopped sooner.

Did you ever ask yourself why do the other Arab neighbouring states ( like Egypt, who share a land border with Gaza ) not help the Palestinians?

FrancieBrady

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121285463#Comment_121285463

It's a 'volunteer' programme. You are not forced to do it.

Exploitation is 'forcing' people to work for little or nothing.

Bobson Dugnutt

Escorting a billionaire to the shítter is hardly a valuable volunteering opportunity.

It’s a way for Web Summit to not pay people for doing work they should be paid for. It’s designed to minimise costs and maximise profits. It’s unpaid labour. This isn’t the local GAA club.

Funny, as Cosgrave once said on Twitter that he was to the left of People Before Profit.

Absolute spoofer.

blanch152

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121285475#Comment_121285475

Some of the defence of Clown Paddy on this thread is extreme.

It seems that some believe it is ok for Paddy to get volunteers to clean toilets for free because Ireland pays people to give them opportunities to get back on their feet in the workforce through expensive schemes like JobBridge!!! Then they claim that people having fun dressing up as extras in movies as part of their leisure time are the same as volunteers cleaning toilets for Paddy.

Unbelievable stuff. Paddy pays his people in the Ditch, is he paying for internet posters as well?

acceletor

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121285476#Comment_121285476

So you are been exploited then?

FrancieBrady

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121285498#Comment_121285498

??

FrancieBrady

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121285488#Comment_121285488

Where is this coming from?

 it is ok for Paddy to get volunteers to clean toilets for free

You do know how large rented conference spaces work? Your rental of the space includes staff to clean toilets and run the actual venue.

Not defending Cosgrave for a second, but having to fabricate a controversy is a bit much

Francis McM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121285503#Comment_121285503

Are you or have you been exploited then Francie?

Aas said before, it reminds me some years ago Sinn Fein were recruiting and encouraging social media volunteers to post online on different platforms for them. Not sure if they are still doing something in that area, but they do look for " grassroots online activist"

https://www.sinnfein.ie/get-involved

Were you part of that programme Francie - are you a G.O.A.? ( grassroots online activist ), or are they paying you now? Unlike what Web Summit do with their “volunteers”?

FrancieBrady

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121285541#Comment_121285541

I volunteer for lots of things.

The main bit of volunteering I do is for the GAA's Ulster showpiece - Ulster Final

I work free for several days including match day,

Never felt exploited even though the event makes a profit and the CEO and admin/stewards etc get paid.

I get a tremendous buzz out of it and meet loads of like minded people doing it, volunteers one and all.

EmmetSpiceland

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121285488#Comment_121285488

He certainly offered rewards, or incentives, for people to source information on the people behind various Twitter accounts so that he could doxx them on his own account.

Francis McM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121285558#Comment_121285558

Not talking about the GAA here Francie. The question was are you a G.O.A.? ( grassroots online activist ), or are they paying you now? 

FrancieBrady

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121285631#Comment_121285631

I was never a GOA , no.

Never was a member of any political party either. Not how I roll. I have voted for every main party in this country and may do again.

That is an immediate disqualifier for being a member of a specific party.

Thread isn't about me though Franics. Happy to respond to points about the thread topic though, if I have something to contribute on them.

Bobson Dugnutt

I wonder how Patrick is filling his days now that his role as CEO is gone? He doesn’t have Twitter or online bullying to fall back on either.