Shadowgate

enno99

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

It is always about the jews

A random quote from the comments
what exactly has it got to do with the documentary ?

I see kingmob likes your post which tells me he/she never even watched it LOL

ohnonotgmail

enno99 wrote: »

A random quote from the comments
what exactly has it got to do with the documentary ?

I see kingmob likes your post which tells me he/she never even watched it LOL

it wasn't the only mention of jews. they seem to be a favourite boogeyman of the people who commented. they all seem very angry and not all that bright

King Mob

enno99 wrote: »

I see kingmob likes your post which tells me he/she never even watched it LOL

When did he/she ever claim to have watched it?

I stated pretty clearly at the top of the thread why it wouldn't be worth a watch and you've not addressed any of those red flags.

And now it seems like it's a fav of some racists too, which would be another red flag for me.

ohnonotgmail

King Mob wrote: »

When did he/she ever claim to have watched it?

I stated pretty clearly at the top of the thread why it wouldn't be worth a watch and you've not addressed any of those red flags.

And now it seems like it's a fav of some racists too, which would be another red flag for me.

it is all jews, j's or joos in the comments. what an absolute ****show.

enno99

King Mob wrote: »

When did he/she ever claim to have watched it?

I stated pretty clearly at the top of the thread why it wouldn't be worth a watch and you've not addressed any of those red flags.

now it seems like itAnd's a fav of some racists too, which would be another red flag for me.

LOL Par for the course with you spouting uninformed nonsense

Was the quote about the documentary ?

enno99

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

it is all jews, j's or joos in the comments. what an absolute ****show.

Jesus another one getting their information in the comments section

Talk about lazy

ohnonotgmail

enno99 wrote: »

Jesus another one getting their information in the comments section

Talk about lazy

if the video attracts people like that then it isn't worth watching. they are generally not fans of well reasoned arguments.

King Mob

enno99 wrote: »

LOL Par for the course with you spouting uninformed nonsense

Was the quote about the documentary ?

Ah ok.
So some random racist just randomly came across the documentary and for no reason posted a screed about how Jews secretly control the world.

Gotcha.

But in reality, antisemitism like that is at the root of a lot of New world order/deep state conspiracies.

A good tactic used by bull**** merchants like those at Info Wars is to keep their stuff vague and open so it can be plugged into all manner of preconceived worldviews.
They don't mention who the "deep state" are exactly, so if it's a racist who believes it's the Jews, then they can accept the video as proof of their particular beliefs.
This works equally as well for those who believe it's bankers, or the leftists or the bohemian grove or the lizard people.

They don't specifically mention Qanon, so the more sensible conspiracy theorists don't have to reject it out of hand.
But at the same time they don't contradict Qanon and can fit it in just as well, so that way they can also appeal to that crowd.

enno99

King Mob wrote: »

When did he/she ever claim to have watched it?

I stated pretty clearly at the top of the thread why it wouldn't be worth a watch and you've not addressed any of those red flags.

And now it seems like it's a fav of some racists too, which would be another red flag for me.

What red flags it had nothing to do with Alex Jones or Qanon if that was your question
but that didnt stop you and others calling her a BS artist ,scumbag, liar
mind you You did call her a lady in a later post why the change of heart ?

King Mob

enno99 wrote: »

What red flags it had nothing to do with Alex Jones or Qanon if that was your question

She worked for Info Wars.
That has everything to do with Alex Jones and it's a red flag to any rational person.

enno99 wrote: »

but that didnt stop you and others calling her a BS artist ,scumbag, liar
mind you You did call her a lady in a later post why the change of heart ?

She is a bull**** artist and a scumbag. She worked for Info Wars.
Info Wars are known liars. Info Wars is a den of bull**** artists and scumbags.

(Edit: That's not fair. She could be a completely innocent person who didn't realise the type of website she was working and "reporting" for. If this is the case, then she is just a profound idiot.)

I thought that this was a given even to most conspiracy theorists.
But I guess not.

Dohnjoe

enno99 wrote: »

What red flags it had nothing to do with Alex Jones or Qanon if that was your question

He was her boss and he recently fired her

She was an aspiring actress who joined Infowars in 2012, a site which promotes false conspiracies.

The "documentary" in question has been pulled from Facebook and Youtube for hate speech/disinformation

Its been called out as baseless disinfo

The video gets key facts wrong about nearly every event it mentions. It falsely links the coronavirus pandemic; Ferguson, Missouri, and George Floyd protests; Mueller investigation, and several actions of the Obama administration in a sweeping and contradicting conspiracy theory.

https://eu.usatoday.com/story/news/factcheck/2020/08/18/fact-check-shadowgate-spreads-misinformation-major-events/5601742002/

Much in the vein of Infowars, which was created by Alex Jones and promotes conspiracy theories, this video makes sweeping claims about a supposed shadow government puppeteering civil society. But it provides no supporting evidence for its eye-opening claims.

https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2020/aug/17/facebook-posts/viral-shadowgate-video-makes-sweeping-unfounded-cl/

A few days prior to her arrest, Weaver — who consistently traffics in misleading or false information — uploaded a video asserting that a “small group of government contractors were hired by government officials to frame the Trump campaign and set him up for the Russia collusion investigation.” (For what it’s worth, Jones had previously claimed that Weaver was in possession of secret Hillary Clinton emails and could prove that former President Barack Obama personally controls the U.S. media.)

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/infowars-correspondent-arrested-on-multiple-felony-charges-including-robbery-and-obstructing-justice-reports/ar-BB180s6d

enno99

King Mob wrote: »

Ah ok.
So some random racist just randomly came across the documentary and for no reason posted a screed about how Jews secretly control the world.

Gotcha.

But in reality, antisemitism like that is at the root of a lot of New world order/deep state conspiracies.

A good tactic used by bull**** merchants like those at Info Wars is to keep their stuff vague and open so it can be plugged into all manner of preconceived worldviews.
They don't mention who the "deep state" are exactly, so if it's a racist who believes it's the Jews, then they can accept the video as proof of their particular beliefs.
This works equally as well for those who believe it's bankers, or the leftists or the bohemian grove or the lizard people.

They don't specifically mention Qanon, so the more sensible conspiracy theorists don't have to reject it out of hand.
But at the same time they don't contradict Qanon and can fit it in just as well, so that way they can also appeal to that crowd.

You are sounding more like a CT now LOL

Maybe they were plants in the comments to keep sensitive souls like yourself from watching it :rolleyes:
Did you read the comments even ?

King Mob

Dohnjoe wrote: »

He was her boss and he recently fired her
https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2020/aug/17/facebook-posts/viral-shadowgate-video-makes-sweeping-unfounded-cl/

And also from that link:

Davey Alba, a reporter for the New York Times covering disinformation, tweeted on Aug. 16 that an emergency legal fund for Weaver had raised more than $88,000. By Aug. 17, it was at more than $161,000.

"So many tactics are colliding with this piece of misinformation," Alba said about the ShadowGate video. "To be clear: QAnon is largely behind the spread of this video."

enno99 wrote: »

What red flags it had nothing to do with Alex Jones or Qanon if that was your question

King Mob

enno99 wrote: »

You are sounding more like a CT now LOL

In what way?

enno99 wrote: »

Maybe they were plants in the comments to keep sensitive souls like yourself from watching it :rolleyes:

Yes. They aren't really racists. They are plants who are posting fake racist comments to discredit the documentary.

Gotcha

ohnonotgmail

enno99 wrote: »

You are sounding more like a CT now LOL

Maybe they were plants in the comments to keep sensitive souls like yourself from watching it :rolleyes:
Did you read the comments even ?

if they are plants then there must be all plants. hard to find one that isn't paranoid or anti-semitic or both.

enno99

King Mob wrote: »

And also from that link:

More uninformed nonsense LOL

Here is a hint Qanon followers dont like/Trust Alex Jones /Corsi et al

King Mob

enno99 wrote: »

More uninformed nonsense LOL

Here is a hint Qanon followers dont like/Trust Alex Jones /Corsi et al

You say that, but you're the one defending bull**** artists from Info Wars.
So unfortunately I'm not going to believe you over a reporter for the New York Times.

You also lied and claimed that this had nothing to do with Alex Jones, so I suspect you are likewise being less than honest in this case too.

Dohnjoe

enno99 wrote: »

More uninformed nonsense LOL

Here is a hint Qanon followers dont like/Trust Alex Jones /Corsi et al

Alex Jones, infowars, Qanon, etc - they all take part in pushing extreme right-wing conspiracies and disinformation to a largely pro-Trump base that buys into all that stuff.

Water John

Some people would believe that Hurricane Laura is being stirred by by Deep State to overshadow the Trump convention.

enno99

King Mob wrote: »

You say that, but you're the one defending bull**** artists from Info Wars.
So unfortunately I'm not going to believe you over a reporter for the New York Times.

You also lied and claimed that this had nothing to do with Alex Jones, so I suspect you are likewise being less than honest in this case too.

He said himself he didnt know about it she was contracted to do some stuff for him (maybe thats why he sacked her )
This was her own project so I didnt lie

I thought that tweet was from a buzzfeed reporter

https://www.buzzfeed.com/daveyalba

No matter both publications are strewn with lies
funny you dont get all sanctimonious about their misdeeds

King Mob

enno99 wrote: »

He said himself he didnt know about it she was contracted to do some stuff for him (maybe thats why he sacked her )

This was her own project so I didnt lie

So you're claiming that she didn't work for Alex Jones Info Wars?

If she did, then yes, Alex Jones and Info Wars have something to do with her and her documentary.
Especially the point I was actually making. That point being that if she worked for a bull**** mill like Info Wars, then she isn't a reliable reporter. To work for a organisation like that, she either has to be completely without journalistic integrity or she's completely stupid.

You however claimed that it had nothing to do with Info Wars.
Which isn't true. You know it's not true, but claimed it anyway.

enno99 wrote: »

I thought that tweet was from a buzzfeed reporter

https://www.buzzfeed.com/daveyalba

No matter both publications are strewn with lies
funny you dont get all sanctimonious about their misdeeds

Lol. I'm sure.
:rolleyes:

And yes, they are a New York Times reporter. That information was in the link I provided.

enno99

King Mob wrote: »

So you're claiming that she didn't work for Alex Jones Info Wars?

If she did, then yes, Alex Jones and Info Wars have something to do with her and her documentary.
Especially the point I was actually making. That point being that if she worked for a bull**** mill like Info Wars, then she isn't a reliable reporter. To work for a organisation like that, she either has to be completely without journalistic integrity or she's completely stupid.

You however claimed that it had nothing to do with Info Wars.
Which isn't true. You know it's not true, but claimed it anyway.

Lol. I'm sure.
:rolleyes:

And yes, they are a New York Times reporter. That information was in the link I provided.

Is what you just posted related to your employer

She was an independant contractor for infowars she also done work on her own
not that hard to grasp
Jones deleted the film from his site

Anyway BuzzFeed NYT maybe the Russia hoax slipped your memory
Steel dossier how is that looking now
https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2020/jul/26/igor-danchenko-outed-steele-dossier-source/

Mr. Danchenko was on the payroll of Mr. Steele’s investigative firm, Orbis Business Intelligence, in London. He also worked at the Brookings Institution. He co-wrote with Fiona Hill a 2010 Brookings paper titled “One Step Forward, Two Steps Back? The Realities of a Rising China and Implications for Russia’s Energy Ambitions.”

Ms. Hill went on to join President Trump’s National Security Council staff as a senior European specialist in 2017. She also testified at his House impeachment hearing. She said she believed Mr. Steele, with whom she once worked while he was a British intelligence officer, was played by Russian disinformation.

He got from her buddy LOL

Ms. Hill went on to join President Trump’s National Security Council staff = Deep State
Not hard to see if you want to

King Mob

enno99 wrote: »

Is what you just posted related to your employer

Lol. And who are you accusing of being my employer?

enno99 wrote: »

She was an independant contractor for infowars she also done work on her own
not that hard to grasp

Yes. SHe worked for Infowars. You claimed it had nothing to do with it.
However, as i said previously, if she worked for a bull**** farm like Info Wars, she's a bull**** artist.

enno99 wrote: »

Jones deleted the film from his site

Is that because it was too much bull**** even for him?
Or cause he was ordered to by his Deep State controllers?

Again, you are now saying it was hosted by the site, despite you claim earlier that it had nothing to do with it.

And not sure how it getting booted from Info Wars helps it's credibility.

enno99 wrote: »

Anyway BuzzFeed NYT maybe the Russia hoax slipped your memory
Steel dossier how is that looking now
https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2020/jul/26/igor-danchenko-outed-steele-dossier-source/

He got from her buddy LOL

Lol. Desperate.

enno99

King Mob wrote: »

Lol. And who are you accusing of being my employer?


Yes. SHe worked for Infowars. You claimed it had nothing to do with it.
However, as i said previously, if she worked for a bull**** farm like Info Wars, she's a bull**** artist.

Is that because it was too much bull**** even for him?
Or cause he was ordered to by his Deep State controllers?

Again, you are now saying it was hosted by the site, despite you claim earlier that it had nothing to do with it.

And not sure how it getting booted from Info Wars helps it's credibility.


Lol. Desperate.

HahaHa im not accusing anyone of being your employer Im making the point not everything is related to your employer

LOL its hosted on many sites dont mean they had any input in making the film

Why desperate ? I was showing you why they are unreliable and were pushing a conspiracy theory for years even got a pulitzer for it LOL

You dont want to call out NYT or Buzzfeed and others for pushing a fake dossier

Dohnjoe

enno99 wrote: »

LOL its hosted on many sites dont mean they had any input in making the film

Why are you trying so hard to distance Infowars from this woman? She literally worked for them, she was an "Infowars reporter" (before that she was a model/actress). The subject matter of the video is almost identical to the type of "deep state" conspiracies and disinfo regularly put out on Infowars

The fact that the video has been pulled by social media companies and lambasted as baseless by normal press outlets demonstrates that even standing on it's own, it falls into the same category of bull**** that Infowars produces on a daily basis

King Mob

enno99 wrote: »

HahaHa im not accusing anyone of being your employer Im making the point not everything is related to your employer

LOL its hosted on many sites dont mean they had any input in making the film

But I've detailed why her having being employed by Info Wars is relevant.

To most rational people, Info Wars is a bull**** farm that produces bull****. You however believe in Info Wars for some reason. Most other conspiracy theorists don't. But you do. That's fine.

So to most other people, being employed by a bull**** farm means that she is a bull****ter also.
To work there, she must have either been aware of what Info Wars is doing and been fine with it (which makes her dishonest) or she was not aware of what Info Wars is (which makes her stupid.)
But for some reason you don't see that.

enno99 wrote: »

Why desperate ? I was showing you why they are unreliable and were pushing a conspiracy theory for years even got a pulitzer for it LOL

You dont want to call out NYT or Buzzfeed and others for pushing a fake dossier

Lol, Like I said. Desperate.

I also like how you're demanding answers to this off topic whataboutery, but still haven't addressed the majority of questions put to you.

enno99

King Mob wrote: »

But I've detailed why her having being employed by Info Wars is relevant.

To most rational people, Info Wars is a bull**** farm that produces bull****. You however believe in Info Wars for some reason. Most other conspiracy theorists don't. But you do. That's fine.

So to most other people, being employed by a bull**** farm means that she is a bull****ter also.
To work there, she must have either been aware of what Info Wars is doing and been fine with it (which makes her dishonest) or she was not aware of what Info Wars is (which makes her stupid.)
But for some reason you don't see that.



Lol, Like I said. Desperate.

I also like how you're demanding answers to this off topic whataboutery, but still haven't addressed the majority of questions put to you.

LOL odd you cant resign yourself to the face he had nothing to do with it you need him/Qanaon whoever to be involved so you can jut use your usual rubbish
You even latched on to the antisemite crap for good measure
Im not watching it because

Then you would have to think for yourself and point out what you find is BS

Im not demanding answers its on topic you brought up double standards
then you engage in the same

I mean its only about an hour or so
you have spent probably that amount replying to the thread
I guess you would rather have some hack from the NYT do your thinking for you

enno99

Dohnjoe wrote: »

Why are you trying so hard to distance Infowars from this woman? She literally worked for them, she was an "Infowars reporter" (before that she was a model/actress). The subject matter of the video is almost identical to the type of "deep state" conspiracies and disinfo regularly put out on Infowars

The fact that the video has been pulled by social media companies and lambasted as baseless by normal press outlets demonstrates that even standing on it's own, it falls into the same category of bull**** that Infowars produces on a daily basis

Normal press LOL did they get paid for their work ? thats not something you approve of

And your own take from watching it

Dohnjoe

enno99 wrote: »

Normal press LOL did they get paid for their work ?

What are you suggesting?

And your own take from watching it

I haven't watched it. It's been flagged by major social media outlets as disinfo/hate speech, and being very familiar with the source, that's all I need to know about the veracity of it

Likewise someone doesn't need to watch a 5G Corona conspiracy, or moon landing hoax video to know they are complete nonsense. If you personally buy into this deep state stuff and videos from Infowars "reporters", that's cool, people can make their own judgement - on both aspects of that

ohnonotgmail

Dohnjoe wrote: »

What are you suggesting?



I haven't watched it. It's been flagged by major social media outlets as disinfo/hate speech, and being very familiar with the source, that's all I need to know about the veracity of it

Likewise someone doesn't need to watch a 5G Corona conspiracy, or moon landing hoax video to know they are complete nonsense. If you personally buy into this deep state stuff and videos from Infowars "reporters", that's cool, people can make their own judgement - on both aspects of that

if i wanted to be lied to for 1hr 20 mins like i was an idiot I would watch the GOP convention.