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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,988 ✭✭✭enno99


    Dohnjoe wrote: »
    It's nearly always a case of "Alex Jones is terrible, but my version of Alex Jones is fine" in these types of threads

    Bull**** is bull****, it shouldn't matter how much it appeals to someone's political leanings.

    Are you guys secret fans you are promoting him in every post


  • Posts: 25,874 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    enno99 wrote: »
    Are you guys secret fans you are promoting him in every post

    Not sure how you can reach that conclusion when in every point we're mentioning him, we're pointing out that he's a propagandist and a bull**** artist.

    This is a very desperate misrepresentation, even for you.

    Meanwhile you actually are promoting a movie that claims pretty much the same stuff he does from one of his former employees.
    I think the real reason he cut ties is because he wasn't going to get a cut of the ad revenue.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,142 ✭✭✭✭Dohnjoe


    enno99 wrote: »
    Are you guys secret fans you are promoting him in every post

    He's a key source or driver for a significant chunk of this nonsense. This "deep state" stuff you are going on about has been fermented and created by outlets like Infowars, or indirectly fueled by their 4chan "sources". So yes, if you are here spouting any of these alt right conspiracies, chances are there is an Alex Jones or Infowars connection

    In this case, this Shadowgate video was created by Millie Weaver, an Infowars employee. The video itself is junk and disinfo no matter how much you try to distance her from her (now ex) boss.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,988 ✭✭✭enno99


    HaHaha it was a little tongue in cheek

    But it got me wondering Alex Jones got banned from YouTube and facebook etc hes popularity grew stronger. Even non conspiracy theorists flocked to him because of 1st amendment issues
    His apps on Google and Apple the downloads sky rocketed
    I wonder how many have come across posts here and seeing the fixation with him decided to check out his site
    I know I would
    So maybe inadvertently you have boosted his viewers

    LOL


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,142 ✭✭✭✭Dohnjoe


    enno99 wrote: »
    HaHaha it was a little tongue in cheek

    But it got me wondering Alex Jones got banned from YouTube and facebook etc hes popularity grew stronger.

    After an initial spike due to all the publicity, his views actually dropped significantly, the metrics are in another thread on this forum
    So maybe inadvertently you have boosted his viewers

    And yet here you are essentially peddling his ideas. Him and Stone have been babbling about this "deep state" for a long time. Trump has appeared on Jones' show, and endorsed him publicly
    https://www.salon.com/2017/03/09/the-alex-jones-influence-trumps-deep-state-fears-come-from-his-conspiracy-theorist-ally-and-adviser_partner/
    Trump praised Jones for having an “amazing” reputation when he appeared on his show, and reportedly told him he was “one of the greatest influences I’ve ever seen” in a personal telephone conversation. According to Jones, he and Trump have kept in contact for months via phone conversations.

    While Trump has long embraced conspiracy theories — his biggest political move before his campaign was the promotion of the racist birther conspiracy alleging President Obama was not born in the United States — his interaction with Jones has led to publicly echoing Jones’ rantings about who truly controls the world.

    Even Jones seemed amazed to hear Trump speaking about his crank beliefs on the national stage. He told his audience it was “amazing” and “surreal to talk about issues here on air and then word-for-word hear [Donald] Trump say it two days later.”

    There's a surprisingly large audience (and market) for this brand of bull****. This ex-Infowars reporter and her video is just another element of that.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,988 ✭✭✭enno99


    You know that video i posted of him was from YouTube

    www.youtube.com/channel/UC9FaIvtAfHXDdPLn_PM3TRg


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,988 ✭✭✭enno99


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,988 ✭✭✭enno99


    So is censorship the answer to combat him or others you disagree with

    Why push them into their own space where things will fester and get worse
    why not prove him wrong on the site

    Take a look here 21 pages and nobody even addressed the content of the video


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,303 ✭✭✭✭Water John


    enno99 wrote: »
    So is censorship the answer to combat him or others you disagree with

    Why push them into their own space where things will fester and get worse
    why not prove him wrong on the site

    Take a look here 21 pages and nobody even addressed the content of the video

    For the very simple reason that, she has no credibility.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,142 ✭✭✭✭Dohnjoe


    enno99 wrote: »
    Why push them into their own space where things will fester and get worse
    why not prove him wrong on the site

    Social media sites dropped him, so his reach dropped dramatically
    Take a look here 21 pages and nobody even addressed the content of the video

    Has been addressed constantly. The content of the video is the usual "deep state" stuff, which is nonsense. Infowars/Alex Jones is the source of a big chunk of said nonsense. And no I haven't watched it, likewise we don't need to watch a 5G = Corona video to know it's nonsense.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,988 ✭✭✭enno99


    like is said no interest in discussion


  • Posts: 25,874 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    enno99 wrote: »

    Take a look here 21 pages and nobody even addressed the content of the video

    Yes. Because in those 21 pages you have not actually addressed the red flags we've pointed to nor have you provided any good reasons why anyone should take this movie seriously.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,988 ✭✭✭enno99


    King Mob wrote: »
    Yes. Because in those 21 pages you have not actually addressed the red flags we've pointed to nor have you provided any good reasons why anyone should take this movie seriously.

    HaHa
    Alex Jones/ Infowars was your red flags he has been discussed here ad nauseum

    No body asked you to take it seriously

    Its so full of bull **** according to you Such an intelligent guy like you should be able to poke holes in it in 5 min

    but you avoided it like the plague

    Its kinda comical now LOL

    Any way have a nice day


  • Posts: 25,874 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    enno99 wrote: »
    HaHa
    Alex Jones/ Infowars was your red flags he has been discussed here ad nauseum

    No body asked you to take it seriously
    Those weren't the only red flags. You are once again misrepresenting a position you can't actually address.
    enno99 wrote: »
    Its so full of bull **** according to you Such an intelligent guy like you should be able to poke holes in it in 5 min

    but you avoided it like the plague

    Its kinda comical now LOL

    Any way have a nice day
    But why would I need to when the red flags around the documentary are enough?
    You haven't actually addressed the red flags or addressed any point put to you. You've had to misrepresent, lie, dodge and be all around dishonest to defend this documentary.
    Why would the contents of the documentary be any more worth addressing than the contents of a flat earth documentary or one that was openly in support of the Qanon nonsense?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,988 ✭✭✭enno99


    King Mob wrote: »
    Those weren't the only red flags. You are once again misrepresenting a position you can't actually address.


    But why would I need to when the red flags around the documentary are enough?
    You haven't actually addressed the red flags or addressed any point put to you. You've had to misrepresent, lie, dodge and be all around dishonest to defend this documentary.
    Why would the contents of the documentary be any more worth addressing than the contents of a flat earth documentary or one that was openly in support of the Qanon nonsense?

    Obviously you cant because if you could you would have rammed it down my throat ages ago
    And yes im saying you had a shifty look at it how could you guys resist

    2 weeks arguing about something you havent even watched :o

    You know like the ABC clip you conveniently forgot to watch hahaha

    LOL


  • Posts: 25,874 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    enno99 wrote: »
    Obviously you cant because if you could you would have rammed it down my throat ages ago
    But again, why bother looking at any of it?
    Why bother watching a flat earth documentary from a guy with a literal tin foil hat on his head?
    Why bother watching a holocaust denial documentary from a literal nazi?

    Like in those examples, the red flags are enough.

    However, you ignore these red flags for some reason and can't seem to explain why.
    enno99 wrote: »
    And yes im saying you had a shifty look at it how could you guys resist
    Lol. Sure. If you really want to believe that.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,988 ✭✭✭enno99


    King Mob wrote: »
    Sure. If you really want to believe that.

    I do


  • Posts: 25,874 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    enno99 wrote: »
    I do
    You seem to believe a lot of silly, untrue things.

    Maybe you should apply more critical thinking and not believe so much in internet videos from bull**** artists trying to make a buck.

    But then again, I'm sure this will be the youtube video that really finally takes down the deep state.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,988 ✭✭✭enno99


    King Mob wrote: »
    You seem to believe a lot of silly, untrue things.

    Maybe you should apply more critical thinking and not believe so much in internet videos from bull**** artists trying to make a buck.

    But then again, I'm sure this will be the youtube video that really finally takes down the deep state.

    Hardly it dont exist right ;)

    The last word is yours


  • Posts: 25,874 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    enno99 wrote: »
    Hardly it dont exist right ;)

    The last word is yours

    Well no, it doesn't exist.
    But as I said, you believe in a lot of silly things that aren't real or aren't true.

    You also seem to believe that this conspiracy documentary is somehow important or different and won't just be forgotten and lost in the constant stream of youtube documentaries.
    Which is also a bit silly.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,988 ✭✭✭enno99


    Not unexpected here, people with their eyes open could see it- Russiagate was a democratic witch hunt.

    Carter Page: ‘I was a pawn in the Democrat crusade to bring down Trump’







    Serious allegations made here, arrests should be made then?



    https://nypost.com/2020/08/23/carter-page-i-was-a-pawn-in-the-democrat-crusade-to-bring-down-trump/?utm_source=reddit.com

    The OP in the Deep State shows how his name got leaked to the media


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