Nine tenants evicted from north Dublin property by men in masks and dark clothing

perfectkama

Ah yes saw about 50 of them marching spread more than 2metres out to hinder as much traffic as possible the wee scumbags

Broadstone Bob

Beechwoodspark wrote: »

I don’t know the full story either nor I can’t confirm a lot of what is in this post but this morning I rang someone who lives in the locality and they said it had basically become a squat over the last few years. His words were it has become a disgusting kip

He also mentioned the rubbish outside, people had complained of it blocking the common pathway and the smells and also the level of vermin and flies it attracted.

I cant link it as I am new but there is videos of the tenants, on twitter, relaxing next to beds in the shop over the weekend.

Gatling

SchrodingersCat wrote: »

Nope. Neither the Irish Council for Civil Liberties, the Gardai, Policing Authority or the Deputy Garda Commissioner have said that their concern over the eviction is due to "the race card been played"

Surely your not that guible .

They didn't come out and say it ,of course they won't .


Seriously

SchrodingersCat

Gatling wrote: »

They didn't come out and say it ,of course they won't .


Seriously

But they did come out and say it. Their concern is because An Garda Síochána should not be playing a supportive role in private evictions where there is no criminal behaviour.

end of the road

Gatling wrote: »

For fear of being labeled Racists and working for a bank (even though this has nothing to do with bank )

yeah, sure, you keep telling yourself that.
meanwhile back here in the real world, the gardai obviously have enough evidence some how to judge that an enquiry is necessary.
the gardai do not engage in enquirys out of fear of being called racist or whatever other nonsense you are having yourself, it just doesn't happen.

Alana Obnoxious Clothespin wrote: »

Of course ‘we’ don’t do things in the basis of someone on boards.ie not liking it . . .

We do things on the basis that people scream loud on Facebook!

the gardai don't, quite rightly.

SchrodingersCat

SchrodingersCat wrote: »

But they did come out and say it. Their concern is because An Garda Síochána should not be playing a supportive role in private evictions where there is no criminal behaviour.

The Gardai were there at the request of the tenants.

Broadstone Bob

When this all kicked off on Thursday and DCHA uploaded the viral video which has attracted so much attention, a former tenant of the house tried to tell DCHA that she was kicked out of the house in 2015 by the lady taking the video because she and the other tenants approached the lady about the house being in receivership. She claims the lady taking the video has been notified as far back as 2015 that they where to be evicted.
None of the tenants made homeless by this lady had their deposits returned.
DCHA blocked her on twitter when she tried to explain to them what happened.

Certain groups are milking this and ignoring the reality as it suits their agenda.

Dyr

Weirdo activists: "oh no, the bad men have completely destroyed your living space, they've even wrecked your jacks!"

Poor homeless people who deffo arent squatters: "Erm...yes...they..eh did...I mean:YES! THEY DID!!

Broadstone Bob

Broadstone Bob wrote: »

When this all kicked off on Thursday and DCHA uploaded the viral video which has attracted so much attention, a former tenant of the house tried to tell DCHA that she was kicked out of the house in 2015 by the lady taking the video because she and the other tenants approached the lady about the house being in receivership. She claims the lady taking the video has been notified as far back as 2015 that they where to be evicted.
None of the tenants made homeless by this lady had their deposits returned.
DCHA blocked her on twitter when she tried to explain to them what happened.

Certain groups are milking this and ignoring the reality as it suits their agenda.

This lady (who at the time told the tenants she owned the house and took the rent money) was yesterday on the steps of Mountjoy Garda Station with a microphone talking about the injustice she feels perpetrated against her and is looking for Dublin City Council to re-home her.

SchrodingersCat

Deleted User wrote: »

The Gardai were there at the request of the tenants.

You are missing the point: The gardai should not be taking an active role in the civil matter of evicting a tenant. This is why the ICCL, Deputy Garda Commissioner, etc are getting involved.

SchrodingersCat

SchrodingersCat wrote: »

You are missing the point: The gardai should not be taking an active role in the civil matter of evicting a tenant. This is why the ICCL, Deputy Garda Commissioner, etc are getting involved.

They weren’t taking an active part. They were explaining the law, but were being shouted down.
“ In response to a query from TheJournal.ie, An Garda Síochána said legal representatives for the owners of a premises on Berkley Road attended Mountjoy Garda Station to inform gardaí that they intended to secure their premises.

“Gardaí noted the proposed activity but did not attend the premises at the time. At approximately 11am a number of garda units attended the same address following a 999 emergency call. The number and type of units attending was based on the contents of the call and the majority were quickly stood down.

“Subsequently a number of garda personnel remained at the scene with the primary function to prevent breaches of the peace and ensure the safety of all persons involved.

“No injuries occurred and no damage was caused. An Garda Síochána liaised with local councillors at this incident and emergency accommodation was arranged for all affected persons.”

In relation to the footage of the eviction, it said An Garda Síochána “does not comment on video footage published online, the context and reliability of which cannot be determined”.”

SchrodingersCat

Deleted User wrote: »

They weren’t taking an active part. They were explaining the law, but were being shouted down.

The Gardai were taking an active part. You can see from the video that they had entered the house and were telling the tenants that "They have no right to be here. it's not my responsibility if you're homeless"

You gave the statement from the Gardai gave over their handling of the incident.
The Gardai are attempting to distance themselves from what was captured in the video by stating that they "cannot comment on video footage published online, the context and reliability of which cannot be determined". This is a cop out.

Well it looks like the Policing Authority and the Deputy Garda Commissioner think differently to the Gardais behavior. There should be an independent inquiry into this too.

SchrodingersCat

Deleted User wrote: »

Instead of being worth half a million before being done up!

You still didnt tell us where you are getting this figure of "half a million" from. Non done ups are being bought for much cheaper in Phibsborough.

Dravokivich

Thats just one apartment. How many were there?

Broadstone Bob

Dravokivich wrote: »

Thats just one apartment. How many were there?

1 three bed flat and 1 shop. next door went for 425k last year and it was in decent nick with a 4 year lease remaining on the shop.

No. 7 would not have sold easy due to the condition and the fact that 9 people were/are living in it who were/are not paying rent to the present legal owner or the previous legal owner who got it from con man Gerry Ward.

Property prices in Phibsboro can change dramatically from one side of the road to the other.

Gatling

[Deleted User] wrote: »

The Gardai were there at the request of the tenants.

This is being completely ignored to rant about the gardai involved in an eviction , despite they were only there because they answered to a 999 call ,


By very naive posters showing the usual fauxrage towards the Garda and KBC (who have zero involvement here )

Broadstone Bob

Gatling wrote: »

This is being completely ignored to rant about the gardai involved in an eviction , despite they were only there because they answered to a 999 call ,


By very naive posters showing the usual fauxrage towards the Garda and KBC (who have zero involvement here )

The entire episode was hijacked by groups with agendas and turned into a farce.
DCHA's initial video only showing a tiny part, the first IT article with its ridiculous headline and then every hipster doofus in phibsboro piling on demanding social justice.

Right from the get go previous tenants were trying to fill people in with what was actually going on with the house and they got ignored or blocked by the very people they are trying to inform and help.
Total **** show which makes me very weary about any of these homeless orgs/charities now.

SchrodingersCat

SchrodingersCat wrote: »

The Gardai were taking an active part. You can see from the video that they had entered the house and were telling the tenants that "They have no right to be here. it's not my responsibility if you're homeless"

You gave the statement from the Gardai gave over their handling of the incident.
The Gardai are attempting to distance themselves from what was captured in the video by stating that they "cannot comment on video footage published online, the context and reliability of which cannot be determined". This is a cop out.

Well it looks like the Policing Authority and the Deputy Garda Commissioner think differently to the Gardais behavior. There should be an independent inquiry into this too.

Every operation that the Gardai are involved in has to be reported upon.
They are right not to comment on an edited video. Where’s the video of the Gardai arriving en masse as a result of the tenants 999 call?
Did the Garda give the wrong information?
Are they responsible for every homeless person?
Who rang them?
And who posted videos in outrage over their not getting their own way?

SchrodingersCat

SchrodingersCat wrote: »

You still didnt tell us where you are getting this figure of "half a million" from. Non done ups are being bought for much cheaper in Phibsborough.

I exaggerated slightly.

https://www.daft.ie/dublin/houses-for-sale/phibsborough/32-berkeley-road-phibsborough-dublin-2388939/

https://www.daft.ie/dublin/houses-for-sale/phibsborough/6-berkley-road-phibsborough-dublin-2133099/

SchrodingersCat

Deleted User wrote: »

Every operation that the Gardai are involved in has to be reported upon.

You are moving the goalposts: You said that it was "Normal procedure" for the Policing Authority to state that it is very concerned by material in circulation relating to the eviction
and for an urgent report on the eviction to be ordered by Deputy Garda Commissioner.
This is very different to saying that the Gardai have to report on all their operations.

Deleted User wrote: »

I exaggerated slightly.

Aye, no sh*t. Even by picking the done-up houses on the street doesn't give you half a million for a doer upper.

seamus

SchrodingersCat wrote: »

The Gardai were taking an active part. You can see from the video that they had entered the house and were telling the tenants that "They have no right to be here. it's not my responsibility if you're homeless"

I don't think you understand the meaning of the word "active".

Gardai standing there saying, "Sorry, I can't help you, I'm just here in case I'm needed", is the textbook definition of being passive.

The policing authority will investigate any incident that is highlighted to them. The urgency attributed to it will be based on the seriousness of the incident or the visibility of it.

The fact that they are involved, and the speed at which they deal with it, does not speak to whether there is any wrongdoing.

I'm very confident that the PA's report will state that the Gardai who attended acted fully within their jurisdiction and there was no breach of discipline or Garda regulations. The report will include vague references to additional training in dealing with matters of public sensitivity.
This will actually mean that Gardai who are aware they are being filmed will be advised to make no comments unless they are asked a direct question.

perfectkama

a need to link state involvement of a fake paying tenants home story when its an eviction of squat is socialist crap

SchrodingersCat

seamus wrote: »

I don't think you understand the meaning of the word "active".

Gardai standing there saying, "Sorry, I can't help you, I'm just here in case I'm needed", is the textbook definition of being passive.

You either misheard what the Garda was telling the tenants in the video, or you are deliberately misquoting them to sound more passive. They told the tenants that they "have no right to be here... it's not my responsibility if you're homeless".

Fritzbox

SchrodingersCat wrote: »

You either misheard what the Garda was telling the tenants in the video, or you are deliberately misquoting them to sound more passive. They told the tenants that they "have no right to be here... it's not my responsibility if you're homeless".

And the Gardai would have been completely correct - I'm pretty sure that is what a court order for eviction implies?

SchrodingersCat

perfectkama wrote: »

a need to link state involvement of a fake paying tenants home story when its an eviction of squat is socialist crap

This reads like something from https://thisinterestsme.com/tools/journal-comment-generator.php :P

gibgodsman

So basically, correct if wrong, a landlord lost his property that he was renting to tenants years ago, he was collecting Rent ever since from tenants and receiving multiple eviction notices to which he ignored.

A court correctly rules that they have to vacate the property, through no fault of the tenants, yes a ****ty situation but it was completely caused by their landlord.

The repossession happens, the guards do their job correctly, everyone involved does their job correctly, but I should be angry at KBC and the Guards because they did their job?

Landlord is the only person any hate should be directed at here, yes people have been made homeless, but you cannot blame anyone on that but the dodgy landlord

gibgodsman

gibgodsman wrote: »

So basically, correct if wrong, a landlord lost his property that he was renting to tenants years ago, he was collecting Rent ever since from tenants and receiving multiple eviction notices to which he ignored.

A court correctly rules that they have to vacate the property, through no fault of the tenants, yes a ****ty situation but it was completely caused by their landlord.

The repossession happens, the guards do their job correctly, everyone involved does their job correctly, but I should be angry at KBC and the Guards because they did their job?

Landlord is the only person any hate should be directed at here, yes people have been made homeless, but you cannot blame anyone on that but the dodgy landlord

Nobody really knows what the story is. What I have gathered so far.....

Owner A rented out the house. Banks were involved in repossession.
Owner B purchased house several years ago. Banks were involved in repossession.
Owner C purchased property in June of this year.

One person living in the property was taking rent off the others in the property. Whether they gave that money to Owner A or B is unknown.

Bikerman2019

gibgodsman wrote: »

So basically, correct if wrong, a landlord lost his property that he was renting to tenants years ago, he was collecting Rent ever since from tenants and receiving multiple eviction notices to which he ignored.

A court correctly rules that they have to vacate the property, through no fault of the tenants, yes a ****ty situation but it was completely caused by their landlord.

The repossession happens, the guards do their job correctly, everyone involved does their job correctly, but I should be angry at KBC and the Guards because they did their job?

Landlord is the only person any hate should be directed at here, yes people have been made homeless, but you cannot blame anyone on that but the dodgy landlord

That could be it, or maybe it is not.
There is so much disinformation here, all your points could be true, or false.
We just don't know.


What we do know is old reliables are jumping up and down as the gardai "facilitated" this. They didnt, tenants called them.
It has been said tenants broke into shop next door to expand, but we dont know for sure - we dont even know they were actually legal tenants, they could be squatters.


As I said, we dont know.

SchrodingersCat

gibgodsman wrote: »

So basically, correct if wrong, a landlord lost his property that he was renting to tenants years ago, he was collecting Rent ever since from tenants and receiving multiple eviction notices to which he ignored.

A court correctly rules that they have to vacate the property, through no fault of the tenants, yes a ****ty situation but it was completely caused by their landlord.

The repossession happens, the guards do their job correctly, everyone involved does their job correctly, but I should be angry at KBC and the Guards because they did their job?

Landlord is the only person any hate should be directed at here, yes people have been made homeless, but you cannot blame anyone on that but the dodgy landlord

The issue with the Gardai has been highlighted with a few authorities. You can read the Police Authorities one in the Irish Examiner here. https://www.irishexaminer.com/news/arid-40032899.html

SchrodingersCat

SchrodingersCat wrote: »

The issue with the Gardai has been highlighted with a few authorities. You can read the Police Authorities one in the Irish Examiner here. https://www.irishexaminer.com/news/arid-40032899.html

This is the most important bit, “That concern was about the appropriateness of the Garda presence and of some of the things that appeared to have been said, and about the fact that circumstances were allowed to develop where the impression was conveyed that the Garda Siochana had an active role in the event.”