Second Captains Part II

lawred2

Level 42 wrote: »

Should of stayed on News talk except for Murph the unfunniest man on the planet.

have

Top notch contribution otherwise

siblers

They're so far removed from OTB's current lot that it's mad to think they were ever on Newstalk, being on 4/5 nights a week we were blessed back in the day. Always Looked forward to it when I was doing some driving or scuttering about at home.

Could say the same but to a lesser extent about Wolly

Loafing Oaf

What did Ken say Luis Enrique had, huevos?
I was sure it was gonna be 'cojones'

Dick Turnip

Loafing Oaf wrote: »

What did Ken say Luis Enrique had, huevos?
I was sure it was gonna be 'cojones'

huevos = eggs

Dick Turnip

siblers wrote: »

They're so far removed from OTB's current lot that it's mad to think they were ever on Newstalk, being on 4/5 nights a week we were blessed back in the day. Always Looked forward to it when I was doing some driving or scuttering about at home.

Could say the same but to a lesser extent about Wolly

I used to listen to them on newstalk a lot. Then stuck with OTB when they left, and only signed up to Second Captains last year. Now that I'm listening to SC every day I simply cannot go back to OTB. I find them so painful.

I do like Joe Molloy, the rest not at all.

Salvation Tambourine

Beersmith wrote: »

Do people really enjoy the over the top commentators shouting into the mic clips they and other podcasts have been playing. Never liked commentators doing that and certainly not listening to them all again and again.

There's good and bad. I'm very much not a fan of the American lad they have clips of. Sounds so forced, it's really not for me.

Arghus

Simon Kuper was a great guest yesterday. He's a very rare fixture these days.

boccy23

Arghus wrote: »

Simon Kuper was a great guest yesterday. He's a very rare fixture these days.

Loved his proper dutch pronouncement of the names.

EltonJohn69

OTB had a brief window when it was Kilbane and Cunningham on most nights and it wasn’t a bad listen. Now is the David Delaney show and he is poison.

Still Ill

boccy23 wrote: »

Loved his proper dutch pronouncement of the names.

The European Tim Vickery.

The Davestator

I'd love to know the listenership figures for OTB. Like most, used to love it, but it is so bad now. Too much 'bants' and not enough humour or insight. I reckon they need to start from scratch with it as its beyond repair.

Thats before you mention the crappy quiz

Dick Turnip

The Davestator wrote: »

I'd love to know the listenership figures for OTB. Like most, used to love it, but it is so bad now. Too much 'bants' and not enough humour or insight. I reckon they need to start from scratch with it as its beyond repair.

Thats before you mention the crappy quiz

Yeah, I used to watch the otb live in the morning on twitter when they started doing that, would have it on in the room on the phone as I was getting ready. You could see how many else were watching at any time, and it was always tiny - like never more than 200. Obviously it was being shown on other platforms and clips could be used elsewhere, but I just couldn't understand how it was feasible.

Which also goes to show how great a job the Second Captains lads are doing. They've done an unbelievable job building up the numbers on Patreon, I noticed they've broken 13,000 subscribers in recent weeks. I joined around a year ago, and it was around 12,200 or so.

mcgucc22

EltonJohn69 wrote: »

OTB had a brief window when it was Kilbane and Cunningham on most nights and it wasn’t a bad listen. Now is the David Delaney show and he is poison.

His brother Damien is quite good though.

The Davestator

The Davestator wrote: »

I'd love to know the listenership figures for OTB. Like most, used to love it, but it is so bad now. Too much 'bants' and not enough humour or insight. I reckon they need to start from scratch with it as its beyond repair.

Thats before you mention the crappy quiz

The figures haven't changed much since the lads left, if anything they are a up a bit - 47,000. I think when the Second Captains left it was around 44,000.

Arghus

EltonJohn69 wrote: »

OTB had a brief window when it was Kilbane and Cunningham on most nights and it wasn’t a bad listen. Now is the David Delaney show and he is poison.

I know he's an acquired taste, but I don't mind Damien Delaney all that much. Maybe it's only because I've so far only had small doses of him, but when I've heard him speak I think he does an okay job of explaining things from the footballer's perspective. I appreciate that his insight is from lived experience.

With the likes of Ken, Eoghan, Murph most of what they're saying about the how and the whys of a game is probably bullshit at the end of the day. Okay maybe, not out and out crap, but there's probably a million factors that they've overlooked into why a game goes the way that it does, they'll never really know what it was like to be out there on the field playing in the game being analysed- they are just essentially barstoolers, like the rest of us.

That's not to say that the lad's insights have no value. They're great at placing things in a wider context or providing a new way of looking at things or just being downright funny and/or clever with their allusions and analogies as applied to sport and they've got great chemistry as well. All that is great and enriches the experience, but I often think their actual analysis of why something happened on the field of play has to be taken with a pinch of salt.

But the OTB guys are barstoolers too, but from what I've heard,they don't even bring in that other stuff. Their bants sounded painful and forced - really sounded like loudmouth lads killing time talking about stuff, but with zero real value or content. Fcking hell, I thought, this is kinda tragic - it just sounded so basic.

Did you smash it

If you think OTB is painful and unlistenable, I shudder to think what you think of the progeny of the RTE radio sports department. OTB is fine to me, thank god it’s there as RTE radio is the alternative.

Dick Turnip

Listening to today's pod now, pissing myself at the Pat Kenny Hygge bit:pac::pac:

EltonJohn69

mcgucc22 wrote: »

His brother Damien is quite good though.

CHEAP SHOT !!! CHEAP SHOT !!!!

Arghus

Dick Turnip wrote: »

Listening to today's pod now, pissing myself at the Pat Kenny Hygge bit:pac::pac:

Still in shock at that Alan Shearer letter to Gareth.

dr.kenneth noisewater

Arghus wrote: »

Simon Kuper was a great guest yesterday. He's a very rare fixture these days.

He's been on SC, OTB and The Stand in the past week. Must have a new book out soon

atilladehun

I definitely pick and choose OTB stuff. Generally I wait for the podcasts, speed through and drop out as soon as I'm done.

I'd give them the benefit of the doubt at the moment. The lockdowns and working from home are going to affect everyone. I'd expect them to improve slightly when normality returns.

Kilbane and Cunningham had enough time there. They both only saw the world from the position of a dressing room in a mid to low take club. They rarely saw things from a different perspective. Sometimes I think Cunningham expects forwards to use magic to play because there's no way he'd change how he'd play to help the attack, eg push up, pass out etc.

I like that team 33 takes a more nerdy approach but their craic is awful.

Hotblack Desiato

Dick Turnip wrote: »

huevos = eggs

Which is also slang for balls

jaykay74

Anyone know where the audio comes from in the Ken Early Chelsea hard men audio bed. There is some sort of commentator or interview argument. Part of it is.. you are getting it. Something like that. Maybe some mention of channel 5.

Lucas Hood

jaykay74 wrote: »

Anyone know where the audio comes from in the Ken Early Chelsea hard men audio bed. There is some sort of commentator or interview argument. Part of it is.. you are getting it. Something like that. Maybe some mention of channel 5.

Tyson fury

https://youtu.be/fNYLvd-QUrQ

unplayable

jaykay74 wrote: »

Anyone know where the audio comes from in the Ken Early Chelsea hard men audio bed. There is some sort of commentator or interview argument. Part of it is.. you are getting it. Something like that. Maybe some mention of channel 5.

Also you are getting it for sure! It’s so good. PUT SOME RESPECT ON MY NAME!!!

sheroman01

atilladehun wrote: »

I definitely pick and choose OTB stuff. Generally I wait for the podcasts, speed through and drop out as soon as I'm done.

I'd give them the benefit of the doubt at the moment. The lockdowns and working from home are going to affect everyone. I'd expect them to improve slightly when normality returns.

Kilbane and Cunningham had enough time there. They both only saw the world from the position of a dressing room in a mid to low take club. They rarely saw things from a different perspective. Sometimes I think Cunningham expects forwards to use magic to play because there's no way he'd change how he'd play to help the attack, eg push up, pass out etc.

I like that team 33 takes a more nerdy approach but their craic is awful.

Kilbane was a terrible listen I felt. Seems a lovely lad but not very interesting and was sometimes forcing opinions and the “bants”.

Cunningham grew on me I must say, thanks to OTB. His analysis is quite good and so dry it’s funny but can be a little much at times, almost Lawerson-esque.

Delaney personally annoys me. I just tend to disagree with everything he says and he struggles to get his point across.

As for OTB in general, I wasn’t listening when the lads were on it so can’t say much on those times. I’ve been listening on and off about 5/6 years now and it’s hit and miss. I turn it off when they talk about rugby or when John Giles come on. It feels like they talk about concussions every week too.

The Sunday Paper Review is genuinely brilliant though. Nice mix of guests and I personally love Joe Molloy, even if he is a little too PC at times.

There was a mention of Wolly here few posts back. He’s definitely an eejit, with some questionable views on life and sport but I must say his pod, The GAA Hour is brilliant. You can’t question his passion. His and his guests analysis is great too.

Sorry for going off topic! :-)

Ol' Donie

McDevitt's intro today is unquestionably top quality sports broadcasting.

Aw, I love these guys.

ongarite

Very hard to listen to Klinsmann on the BBC football tonight after the guys dissected his very weird accent during the week.

Probably been answered already but what is the song that they use as background for the Euro intro, the violin/cello one?
Very familiar but can't place it.

Arghus

ongarite wrote: »

Very hard to listen to Klinsmann on the BBC football tonight after the guys dissected his very weird accent during the week.

Probably been answered already but what is the song that they use as background for the Euro intro, the violin/cello one?
Very familiar but can't place it.

Burn The Witch by Radiohead.

sheroman01

Arghus wrote: »

Burn The Witch by Radiohead.

Wow. I would never have guessed that was Radiohead! Strange, I’ve only recently been getting into them too.