2020 the battle of the septuagenarians - Trump vs Biden, Part 2

[Deleted User]

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Yep, in all likelihood they've had lawyers going over it for months. The story becomes a legal liability to simply make it up. One stand out from the story is that he's got hundreds of millions worth of debts that he'll have to pay back in the next 4 years. Plus there's the issue of some 70 million dollars that he may owe the IRS for tax refunds he wasn't eligible for. That case would likely be unfrozen if he left office.

I know newspapers and T.V. news can get details wrong at times and have to issue a retraction, or just left with an embarrassment (Dewey defeats Truman); But if they didn't, they would have to be one of the stupidest newspaper editorial team in the world.

namloc1980

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He was asked about the tax story and basically just spoofed an answer without denying the Times story.

Also asked about the Armenia-Azerbaijan situation and as we've known all along he has no grasp on policy whatsoever. Not a rashers and just says he is looking into it "very strongly".

DubInMeath

DubInMeath wrote: »

I know newspapers and T.V. news can get details wrong at times and have to issue a retraction, or just left with an embarrassment (Dewey defeats Truman); But if they didn't, they would have to be one of the stupidest newspaper editorial team in the world.

Was reading the Farrow book on Weinstein recently and the amount of times the story went back and forth with publications. Say this is close to water tight.

[Deleted User]

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Was reading the Farrow book on Weinstein recently and the amount of times the story went back and forth with publications. Say this is close to water tight.

Wonder if certain posters are going back through their post history trying to delete the "he's a successful business man" statements?

Cody montana

NY times has more stuff to come out as well.

In fairness, we haven’t had a huge scandal in about a week.
This will do nicely.

Scuid Mhór

Cody montana wrote: »

NY times has more stuff to come out as well.

In fairness, we haven’t had a huge scandal in about a week.
This will do nicely.

I would imagine there is a strong chance that there are several more explosive revelations due to come out as a consorted effort amongst the Times, the Washington Post, etc, not necessarily having to be related to tax returns either. This could amount to a great journalistic hit campaign on the eve of the election if I'm correct. The next few weeks are going to be pretty interesting.

Cody montana

Scuid Mhór wrote: »

I would imagine there is a strong chance that there are several more explosive revelations due to come out as a consorted effort amongst the Times, the Washington Post, etc, not necessarily having to be related to tax returns either. This could amount to a great journalistic hit campaign on the eve of the election if I'm correct. The next few weeks are going to be pretty interesting.

Hopefully.

The next question is, where is he getting his money from?

namloc1980

Scuid Mhór wrote: »

I would imagine there is a strong chance that there are several more explosive revelations due to come out as a consorted effort amongst the Times, the Washington Post, etc, not necessarily having to be related to tax returns either. This could amount to a great journalistic hit campaign on the eve of the election if I'm correct. The next few weeks are going to be pretty interesting.

4 years of calling them fake news and the enemy of the people coming home to roost.

Tell me how

Cody montana wrote: »

Hopefully.

The next question is, where is he getting his money from?

Link

Eric Trump in 2014: 'We have all the funding we need out of Russia'

dark crystal

Cody montana wrote: »

Hopefully.

The next question is, where is he getting his money from?

Deutsche Bank, apparantly.

Trump personally guaranteed $400 million in loans due by 2022, is battling IRS over a $72 million refund, and is declaring losses in almost all his businesses.

He is close to owing $500 million—personally. Why did Deutsche Bank lend him billions?

Muahahaha

Scuid Mhór wrote: »

I would imagine there is a strong chance that there are several more explosive revelations due to come out as a consorted effort amongst the Times, the Washington Post, etc, not necessarily having to be related to tax returns either. This could amount to a great journalistic hit campaign on the eve of the election if I'm correct. The next few weeks are going to be pretty interesting.

From the article
"This article offers an overview of The Times’s findings; additional articles will be published in the coming weeks."

Its going to be a drip drip strategy by the NYT designed for maximum damage on Trump. New revelations coming out every few days with Trump constantly explaining in press conferences and during the three debates. Heres hoping it concludes with them publishing a copy of the physical tax return that shows he only paid $750 in federal taxes the year he became president.

1800_Ladladlad

Biden is heavily implying that Supreme Court justices have never been nominated in the history of the US as a fact when over 25 Presidents have nominated them during presidential elections before. 19 confirmations total. He's going on like its as if Trump has done something so outrageous, so terrible likes it an attack on America. His writers are liars. Such a disgusting attempt at manipulation thinking this is leverage. Its desperate and is the height of petulance. The United States does not revolve around a person's dying wish. It never has and it never will. Its as simple as that.

An example of some of the Presidents who nominated Supreme Court justices during presidential elections: Oliver Ellsworth, 1796. Samuel Chase, 1796. William Johnson, 1804. Philip Barbour, 1836. Roger Taney, 1836. Melville Fuller, 1888. Lucius Lamar, 1888. George Shiras, 1892. Mahlon Pitney, 1912. John Clarke, 1916. Louis Brandeis, 1916. Benjamin Cardozo, 1932. Frank Murphy, 1940. Anthony Kennedy, 1988


Nominations happened during Biden’s 180 years in office & he can’t remember? Look at the difference in him in this clip in comparison to the others with incoherent answers or statements. We've seen the clips. How much rest over the past couple of days from doing so little work is he that able to coherently read that speech? The debate will be a disaster for him. The Democrats are desperate. Its embarrassing.

dwayneshintzy

1800_Ladladlad wrote: »

Biden is heavily implying that Supreme Court justices have never been nominated in the history of the US as a fact when over 25 Presidents have nominated them during presidential elections before. 19 confirmations total. He's going on like its as if Trump has done something so outrageous, so terrible likes it an attack on America. His writers are liars. Such a disgusting attempt at manipulation thinking this is leverage. Its desperate and is the height of petulance. The United States does not revolve around a person's dying wish. It never has and it never will. Its as simple as that.

An example of some of the Presidents who nominated Supreme Court justices during presidential elections: Oliver Ellsworth, 1796. Samuel Chase, 1796. William Johnson, 1804. Philip Barbour, 1836. Roger Taney, 1836. Melville Fuller, 1888. Lucius Lamar, 1888. George Shiras, 1892. Mahlon Pitney, 1912. John Clarke, 1916. Louis Brandeis, 1916. Benjamin Cardozo, 1932. Frank Murphy, 1940. Anthony Kennedy, 1988


Nominations happened during Biden’s 180 years in office & he can’t remember? Look at the difference in him in this clip in comparison to the others with incoherent answers or statements. We've seen the clips. How much rest over the past couple of days from doing so little work is he that able to coherently read that speech? The debate will be a disaster for him. The Democrats are desperate. Its embarrassing.

You seem to be ignoring a story that dropped today for some reason

hotmail.com

1800_Ladladlad wrote: »

Biden is heavily implying that Supreme Court justices have never been nominated in the history of the US as a fact when over 25 Presidents have nominated them during presidential elections before. 19 confirmations total. He's going on like its as if Trump has done something so outrageous, so terrible likes it an attack on America. His writers are liars. Such a disgusting attempt at manipulation thinking this is leverage. Its desperate and is the height of petulance. The United States does not revolve around a person's dying wish. It never has and it never will. Its as simple as that.

An example of some of the Presidents who nominated Supreme Court justices during presidential elections: Oliver Ellsworth, 1796. Samuel Chase, 1796. William Johnson, 1804. Philip Barbour, 1836. Roger Taney, 1836. Melville Fuller, 1888. Lucius Lamar, 1888. George Shiras, 1892. Mahlon Pitney, 1912. John Clarke, 1916. Louis Brandeis, 1916. Benjamin Cardozo, 1932. Frank Murphy, 1940. Anthony Kennedy, 1988


Nominations happened during Biden’s 180 years in office & he can’t remember? Look at the difference in him in this clip in comparison to the others with incoherent answers or statements. We've seen the clips. How much rest over the past couple of days from doing so little work is he that able to coherently read that speech? The debate will be a disaster for him. The Democrats are desperate. Its embarrassing.

No one cares about this.

The Supreme Court just excites political nerds.

Justin Credible Darts

saw the line posted on this forum in another thread and it has never been so apt


"if Trump walked on water, people would complain he was not able to swim"

DraftDodger

Scuid Mhór wrote: »

I would imagine there is a strong chance that there are several more explosive revelations due to come out as a consorted effort amongst the Times, the Washington Post, etc, not necessarily having to be related to tax returns either. This could amount to a great journalistic hit campaign on the eve of the election if I'm correct. The next few weeks are going to be pretty interesting.

Yeah explosive, bombshell etc... We've heard it all before.

Everytime liberal media attack Trump it further enhances the view they are out to get him and his base also see it as an attack on them as he represents them.

This latest story will if anything make him more popular.

Tell me how

DraftDodger wrote: »

Yeah explosive, bombshell etc... We've heard it all before.

Everytime liberal media attack Trump it further enhances the view they are out to get him and his base also see it as an attack on them as he represents them.

This latest story will if anything make him more popular.

Amongst his base maybe. But can't see many swing voters being impressed.

Look at his last few weeks.

• On tape downplaying a pandemic which has killed 200,000 people.
• Accused by a number of people having called dead soldiers losers.
• Found to be a shambolic business man and paying a porn star 150 times more than he paid on tax in 2017.

If Biden stays on his feet in the debates. Can't see Trump returning.

Cody montana

Justin Credible Darts wrote: »

saw the line posted on this forum in another thread and it has never been so apt


"if Trump walked on water, people would complain he was not able to swim"

Well he’s already compared himself to Jesus.

lawrencesummers

He has gone up in my estimation (the only way was up) after finding out he only paid $750 In tax.

Fair play to him.

I would love to pay less tax.
I don’t like paying tax

Cody montana

DraftDodger wrote: »

Yeah explosive, bombshell etc... We've heard it all before.

Everytime liberal media attack Trump it further enhances the view they are out to get him and his base also see it as an attack on them as he represents them.

This latest story will if anything make him more popular.

Oh yeah.
Another lie.
Poor honest Don always the victim.
The billionaire who’s broke, a failed businessman and after adding 7 Trillion to their debt.

What a hero.
More of that please.
Nope.

Tell me how

lawrencesummers wrote: »

He has gone up in my estimation (the only way was up) after finding out he only paid $750 In tax.

Fair play to him.

I would love to pay less tax.
I don’t like paying tax

How do you think schools, hospitals, transport infrastructure, welfare payments, public parks, military and policing and emergency services should be funded?

lawrencesummers

Tell me how wrote: »

How do you think schools, hospitals, transport infrastructure, welfare payments, public parks, military and policing and emergency services should be funded?

Do you mean in Ireland or in the USA?

lawrencesummers

Justin Credible Darts wrote: »

saw the line posted on this forum in another thread and it has never been so apt


"if Trump walked on water, people would complain he was not able to swim"

He would sink.
Without a shadow (well he casts a big shadow) of a doubt.

Justin Credible Darts

I have read on this forum that trump is an idiot, his supporters likewise.

But if he wins, are the people still idiots ?
What would that say about the atrocious candidate of biden ?


There is something wrong when in the last 2 elections, the democrats could only have the detestable hilary, and the bumbling Biden,that says more about the democrats.

A lot of the hard working people wont be impressed by the stance the democrats took with all this BLM and the protests, which could turn many people towards trump.

Before any one thinks I am a trump supporter, I am not, I just think both candidates are abysmal for a country like USA

Tell me how

lawrencesummers wrote: »

Do you mean in Ireland or in the USA?

Wherever you live.

The particularly fascinating part is watching people explain his tax away as him being really smart rather than really broke.

Penn

Justin Credible Darts wrote: »

I have read on this forum that trump is an idiot, his supporters likewise.

But if he wins, are the people still idiots ?
What would that say about the atrocious candidate of biden ?


There is something wrong when in the last 2 elections, the democrats could only have the detestable hilary, and the bumbling Biden,that says more about the democrats.

A lot of the hard working people wont be impressed by the stance the democrats took with all this BLM and the protests, which could turn many people towards trump.

Before any one thinks I am a trump supporter, I am not, I just think both candidates are abysmal for a country like USA

Posts like the below are why people think most Trump supporters are idiots.

lawrencesummers wrote: »

He has gone up in my estimation (the only way was up) after finding out he only paid $750 In tax.

Fair play to him.

I would love to pay less tax.
I don’t like paying tax

lawrencesummers

Penn wrote: »

Posts like the below are why people think most Trump supporters are idiots.

Posts like you are why people who think people who are supporters of Trump but are not are idiots.

lawrencesummers

Tell me how wrote: »

Wherever you live.

Where I live is irrelevant, because taxes are a pretty global ideal at this stage.

I just don’t like paying as much as I do and would do everything (legally) possible to reduce how much tax I pay, and before people start pretending they are some sort of nationalistic social warrior everybody is the same.

Ain’t nobody writing letters to Her Majesties Revenue and Customs asking if they can pay more tax.

titan18

Scuid Mhór wrote: »

I would imagine there is a strong chance that there are several more explosive revelations due to come out as a consorted effort amongst the Times, the Washington Post, etc, not necessarily having to be related to tax returns either. This could amount to a great journalistic hit campaign on the eve of the election if I'm correct. The next few weeks are going to be pretty interesting.

Tbf, based on past, the media will straight up make **** about Trump and Republicans too much like Fox do with the Democrats.