I don't care what Varadkar did. He didn't try and copy a Futurama holiday. If the name is obvious propaganda I am obviously going to be skeptical. Why wouldn't kids get vaccinated? I remember getting vaccinations in school and there was never an issue. I had more as a baby as well and I believe that is fine for the vast majority of parents.
61.9% Ireland vs 68.2% isn't a wild difference in first shots. 45.3% vs 53.0% isn't a massive difference for second shots either. Certainly they are ahead and deserve credit for that but lets not call a huge %
I would say the government would like to tell us that there will never be full normality and we had better get used to restrictions of one sort or another indefinitely but the UK makes that difficult for us politically since they can be used as an example of what is possible.
May 17th indoor dining 12th April outdoor
I would assume its going to be up to the parents whether or not the kids get the vaccine?
My understanding is that childhood vaccinations tend to be for illnesses with a high probability of causing serious harm or death?
Would covid-19 be deemed dangerous enough for kids to be required to vaccinate?
Feels like there would need to be a lot more research done there to establish the actual risks.
Could we, as a society, ever forgive ourselves of we vaccinated kids against a virus that wasn't a big threat to them only to later discover that there were unforseen long term effects?
I know for myself it was easy enough to book an appointment and consent to the vaccine but we'd be vaccinating kids without consent against something that statistically isn't really a threat to them.
Oh look, more hyperbole and exaggeration in pursuit of a point. How unlike you.
People won't be happy about this. Mandatory vaccination for nightclubs and large events from Sept. Tests not sufficient.
Sorry, but it seems to me that you are the one exaggerating.
It is a ploy to encourage younger adults to get vaccinated I assume, otherwise having night clubs open right now without mandatory vaccinations is hypocritical.
I suspect they will end up toning that down to vaccination or a negative test.
Of course it does.
My feelings on matters that affect me are exaggerations. Of course they are. Mon dieu.
I like the idea of course, but sure, why wouldn't you have implemented that now?
Everything feels like it's being announced on the hoof as their control of messaging spirals out of control.
The hundreds of thousands required to isolate in England are having severe impact on transport, manufacturing, retail, hospitality and are pushing supply chains to the brink of collapse and wrecking any recovery.
The FTSE 100 dropped to its lowest level since April today and sterling sinks to five-month low against dollar.
An unintended consequence of allowing the virus to spread. On what was supposed to be Freedom Day, huge numbers of people are expected to isolate and have less freedom than had earlier levels of restrictions remained in place.
Apparently the "pingdemic" is resulting in people uninstalling the Covid app. People don't want to be pinged, possibly for a second time, given they will now lose more freedoms than was the case just last week and there is less financial assistance if you can't work. Some people would rather not know if they were around someone who has just tested positive. Not good when you've just had several potential super-spreader events with the Euros.
I'd say the mandatory vaccination for nightclubs and large events from Sept. is another reaction to an unintended consequence. The removal of restrictions has also removed the incentive for those on the fence to get vaccinated. Whatever chance there was for getting some of the fence-sitters to take the jab, that is gone now.
Cummings is back again to stick the boot into Boris over Covid-19.
If what he said can be proven you would think he could be in a spot of bother, however he is like teflon man. He will deny, bluster, deny and move on.
Cummings will be lucky to get a job again with the amount of dirt he is spilling. Hardly ever talked to the media and now he won't shut up.
It's obviously possible to have minimal or no restrictions. What the UK will be an example of is whether it's a good idea or not.
He will be fine. IIRC in his briefings before he was very complimentary towards Sunak, Gove and Raab. All three will scream blue murder about him in the presence of Boris, but behind closed doors those 3 lads who are fiercely ambitious will be loving it.
I stopped reading after you referred to England as the mainland.
Mick Take...a not great spoof account...
This is getting really really messy all of a sudden. Business ministers are now telling us that one way to overcome the increase in NHS app self isolate notifications is just to ignore them as they are simply advisory.
If we are applying the Swiss Cheese Model to managing this virus then those holes are certainly getting bigger and bigger right now.
Purely being used as a means to get people to turn up to vaccine appointments in that age group.
Come September there will be another uturn, the nightclubs will claim victory in having got the government to back down, as will the opposition. I hate pretty much everything about the current UK government, but this I don't see as anything more than them deliberately taking a pr hit in order to convince some youngsters to get jabbed. Considering the negative hits that Johnson has taken so far without damage though its a fairly minor one, but still good that they are prepared to promote a policy that they have no intention of implementing but need to make the population think they will to get the jabs in the arms.
Other than offering cheap beer to under 30's as an incentive its as good a motivator as any.
Thanks for telling me that. Your thoughts on the matter are greatly appreciated and will be taken under consideration with all the weight that they deserve.
So are we thinking this is going to be the new angle of attack?
Yes, you've been vaccinated but you can still test positive.
So, you might think you've opened up but you were in contact with a positive case so into isolation with you!
Haha! Freedom Day was a failure. Hooray!
So instead of the whole country being in lockdown at once they would instead have a rotating group of a few hundred thousand in isolation at all times.
It just feels to me like too many people are eager to see this fail and can't wait to gloat about how it isn't working.
In Ireland, I wonder how it will ultimately play out. With the nice weather everyone seems like they are back to normal anyway. Only difference being less tourism, no bars or restaurants and no big events.
We should be quite close to lifting restrictions, I would think.
There is also a big concern about Flu this year and the impact this will have on the NHS. They need to get this wave out of the way before that hits and also make sure everyone is vaccinated.
The message I'm reading is "Go out, enjoy yourselves, but come September you need to be vaccinated because we need to put in place restrictions to stop this wave and prepare the NHS for the worst flu epidemic in years".
Why did the UK government and the UK's devolved administrations not consider social-distancing orders and closure of non-essential businesses to be enough last March? The same question may be asked regarding Italy and Spain and Latin American countries.
If people distance among themselves when exercising or travelling to and from work or for essential shopping, then there's no problem. As for the one-hour-a-day limit on exercise, police officers at the start of their shift at work won't know whether those people they see outside were also outside during the previous shift on which other officers were working.
Rosalind Franklin laboratory opened up last week
So hospitals were under incredible strain last winter, and will be under incredible strain again this winter, so lets put them under strain again this summer too? Doesn't seem like a sensible strategy.
Well I suppose the idea is that if it is inevitable that there's going to be a rise in hospitalisations when restrictions are lifted, better to have that in summer than winter when you will get covid on top of flu hospitalisations.
The rise would in hospitalisations would be much smaller if they retained some measures to limit the spread. 60% of Covid hospitalisations now are from unvaccinated people. If they waited until more people were vaccinated, then the hospitals wouldn't be put under this strain now. A rise in cases may be inevitable but this level of rise was not inevitable.
There really isn't a whole lot different in what you can do in the UK this week compare to last week, other than nightclubs now being open. Now that does have the potential for creating a lot more new cases amongst the younger age groups, but far better for them to be out partying during the summer and blowing off that steam potentially in outside venues than doing so during the winter. Only other option regarding that part of the economy is to just ban nightclubs etc forever, and that isn't going to happen.
Regarding other activities last week you could go to the pub, drink indoors, eat indoors in a restaurant, go to the cinema, go shopping, go visit friends, go stay in a hotel, travel around the country and do pretty much anything you wanted. Just until Monday there was a law about wearing masks on public transport, now there isn't, but nobody questioned anyone not wearing a mask on public transport anyway so no major difference. "Freedom day" was a stupid title as it suggested that something significant was happening to the changes in the rules, it really wasn't any change for 99% of peoples daily lives. We are still mostly wearing masks in shops and standing on spots 2m apart in the queues, but other than that you can do pretty much everything, and you could do pretty much everything last week as well.
Everyone in England who wants a vaccine pretty much has one at this point, they're not planning widespread vaccination of kids. They can't wait "until more people were vaccinated" because nobody else is going to get vaccinated.
The "level of rise" of the exit wave is pretty much inevitable at this point, it's more a question of when and for how long.
Yes the only other option regarding that part of the economy is to just ban nightclubs etc forever, delaying open was absolutely not an option!
The changes on "Freedom Day" are largely irrelevant. The damage was done before it and the Euros has further exasperated the issues. A large part of the problem now is the change in people's behaviour as for many their mentality changed even before actual restrictions did. Lets just hope that deaths (due either to Covid or the shortage of hospital resources) stay low and that a new variant isn't spawned.