Porsche Taycan

bf

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119536957#Comment_119536957

Fully agree, but when demand is greater than supply, seller holds the cards. See what Tesla have done in the last few years since the launch of the Model 3, take your car or go to back of the queue again.

Fitz II

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119536957#Comment_119536957

Yes it is. Its a relationship and it has to work for both the buyer and the seller. If the buyer is playing the paddy numberplate envy thing and it effects the dealers allocation the following year, I can understand why they would preference buyers willing to play ball. Build slots are hard to get, and some specs are more worth the dealers time than others. With all the 221,222,231,232....its all a bunch of 2's and I for one have to think about when the car was registered far longer than I would be bothered.

Fitz II

Software done today. Its a big update. Nothing too major on the front end, certainly snappier and the new coloured icons are nice enough. New android auto wireless which is nice for use non apple people. Porsche Center dublin were their usual gentlemanly and professional selves, that showroom makes me want new cars so bad.

Buddy Bubs

How long before a used Taycan or Etron GT reaches 50 grand?

10 years? More?

PaulJoseph22

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119576023#Comment_119576023

Beautiful and classy interior.

UhOh

Saw my first Taycan in the Mamba Green colour at the weekend (rare enough to see a Taycan in the south east). Absolutely stunning colour ‘in the flesh’.

Fitz II

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119578785#Comment_119578785

One of those colours where photos really dont do it justice. A bold choice but they look class in Mamba.

RainInSummer

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119538994#Comment_119538994

On the flip side of that Fitz, it wasn't the buyers that pushed for the introduction of the bi-annual registration system, it was the dealers, with a side of Healy-Rae thrown in.

And you can't blame a buyer for wanting to preserve value in what's probably their second largest purchase. That just happens to take the form of a newer reg in this case. Calling it Paddy numberplate envy when those same dealers knock a hefty percent off the car price when it crosses from one year to the next isn't really fair. The public can only play by the rules set by dealers.

quokula

I'm considering one of these for my next car, any good recommendations on which options are or aren't worthwhile? The prices really add up!

Fitz II

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119584772#Comment_119584772

If we keep caring about two cars that roll off the factory line at the same time with two different number plates then we deserve what we get. But honestly the difference in trade in value in minimal, and likely taken up by prices hikes anyway. You could be asked for 4 or 5k more in Jan than now and Taycans loose so little money second hand its not worth waiting.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119584777#Comment_119584777

Totally depends on your priorities. If you are driving focused or comfort focused. Personally I dont care for the self drive options, but I understand people who do. I think Torque Vectoring and Rear wheel steer are good if you want that Porsche feel. The bose stereo is excellent. The sunroof is good. Folding mirrors are essential. I think the sports sideskirts set the car off. Sports chrono also good option. But look a base spec is still better than any other car out there. What are your priorities????

Fitz II

Well this is new....can add comfort access. Not sure I could be bothered for 1400 euro seems saucy. Do others find this feature useful, have had it on other cars and found it a bit of a nightmare.

KCross

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119620528#Comment_119620528

Seems like €1400 to make it easier for the gangs to steal it! 😀

Gumbo

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119620528#Comment_119620528

Great feature. Had it on my €7k Leaf. Have it on the eNiro and Tesla. The 530e also. Can’t believe it’s not standard.

Would I pay €1400 for it, I don’t think so!

unkel

Nothing is standard on a Volkswagen Audi Gruppe car 😂

€1400 is absurd though, this was standard on all Teslas 10 years ago

If I were to buy a new Taycan, I would not order a single optional extra apart from colour. They can shove it. Paddy spec it is. Would I miss having all those features having got used to it in other cars over the years? Sure would.

Fitz II

Its common that the better the car the less you get as standard....well except you get a good car as standard. You pays your money and makes your choice.

Unkle you have to option out the stanrard Alloys, horrific. Base colour but better wheels surely.

unkel

Yeah maybe I'd just go for the black metallic, would be third black car in a row though and it is one of my least favourite colours 😂

The standard wheels look cheap but I don't particular like any of the other ones either on a black car, except the 20-Inch Taycan Turbo Aero Wheels

Mike2006

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119621502#Comment_119621502

Crayon is the best colour hands down on the Taycan...

Yes - lots of the 'supercar' reviews on the likes of Top Gear etc.. it is common for the car to cost £150k and then the extras are another £50k...

unkel

Pretty much all manufacturers send fully loaded cars to the likes of Top Gear for review. I'd say it's far from common to spend 33% extra on options on top of the standard car, no matter what price category the car is in.

Fitz II

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119621502#Comment_119621502

Its a pretty futuristic looking car so it can take the white too. Agree on the crayon, but sometimes I think its too big for that colour better on a 911, and you need to break the crayon up with a sunroof meaning more extras. Black is always good, but if you like a clean swirl free car, its a maintenance nightmare.

Re the comfort access, seems its 6 meters from the car, which could be tircky where I park, security risk etc. Might give it a skip, not worth 1400 euro to me, but the next owner car put it on if he/she is so inclined

Gumbo

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119621857#Comment_119621857

Agree.

So much so I’m getting my (non Porsche appliance) wrapped in the future.

Mike2006

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119622567#Comment_119622567

Have you sourced an installer? If yes, what did they quote? Probably around the 2k mark including internal exposed door cillls…

Gumbo

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119623085#Comment_119623085

Wrap It Design in Dublin 15 are authorized installers for Hexis.

Mantis has dechromed 3 of my teslas now so he Quoted €1500 or a bit less for complete car and what can be reached without stripping the car down.

I didn’t ask about stripping bits down as at that stage you may as well have paid for the paint!

But this was on a Model 3 so I’d say it’s car dependent.

unkel

Ha, is that where Mantis is now :-)

He wrapped the ugly plastic nose cone grille of my Ioniq well over 5 years ago. First time I went over to his place, back in Ballymount then, and he was just handing over a freshly wrapped 10 year old MINI to its owners. The car looked like a new car, I was well impressed.

Mike2006

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119623610#Comment_119623610

3 day turnaround?

Make sure you post some pics when it is done!

bf

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119620528#Comment_119620528

Have you gone for the 3 month free trial sub? I won’t be paying €1400 for it!

Gumbo

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119623671#Comment_119623671

No way!

Yes he’s in Northwest Business Park now. Just on the back roads between finglas and Blanchardstown.

http://www.wrap-it.ie/

Fitz II

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119623784#Comment_119623784

Cannot for the life of me get the 3 month trial to work, it say it on the site, but when you click there is only an option for the one off payment. Spent 30 minutes last night trying to get it sorted via PC, App and Mac no joy. Anyone get their free 3 months.

Delete.

bf

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119624817#Comment_119624817

Tried it there now - no joy, same issue as you

unkel

Harry is very impressed with the Cross Turismo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AU2xUwCzSok

Old diesel

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119693304#Comment_119693304

Im totally with him re the interior spec on the test car. Would prefer a light coloured interior myself.

Exterior colour suited it very well.

Taycan still a real halo car for EVs

blingrhino

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119695689#Comment_119695689

If only you could get one !

Now 9 months and still no sign .....

unkel

Ordered the cross turismo, @blingrhino? What is Porsche saying? I thought the normal Taycans were readily available to order with no absurd waiting times. How about the sport turismo?

blingrhino

No contact from porsche in over a month .

I presume it us the 12v battery issue although I have since heard that they have a supply of 12v batteries now and are fitting them to new cars on the production line and not to the likes of my CT that is built since June and sitting ready in the port of emden complete minus this 12v battery for the last 3 months .

Similar customers in the same position as me in Ireland and UK.

Really poor from porsche overall. July was original delivery.

Fitz II

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119697106#Comment_119697106

Jesus....Micks Garage have them in stock 😁 Still I am sure when you are sitting in it, it will be worth it.

unkel

Last time I bought a 12V battery off Mick's garage, I had to take them to court 🤣

blingrhino

Dealer confirms my Taycan will be arriving within the next 2 weeks .

Battery supply issue seems to be resolved now and deliveries imminent.

I will believe when i see it .

Gumbo

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119836525#Comment_119836525

Exciting times.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119836525#Comment_119836525

Great to hear, post some pics if u can.

Gumbo

Seen this in another thread, with BMW’s recent price increase for the i4, it puts it so close to the Porsche now.

“Porsche Taycan (€96k) now only tipping money (13%) more than an i4 M50 (€85k). With likely much lower depreciation. You'd need your head examined if you bought the BMW at those prices imho”

If you were buying an M50, would a base Taycan be a better place to be? I would tend to say yes, but never having owned a Porsche I’m not experienced enough with how precious options are at resale.

blingrhino

There has been on increase on both but i still think a base Taycan is more comparable and "better value" than an Audi Etron gt at a starting price of €108k.

Bmw not really in same league allbeit a good car.

UhOh

Said it in the i4 thread, the Taycan price is a bit of a fantasy, adding in the bells & whistles I’d like brings the RWD up to between €115-120k, so different ballpark price wise.

Looking forward to seeing pics of the new car blingehino - was it a Cross Turismo you ordered?

Also, some rumours floating about of the tri-motor Taycan on the way that might sit above the Turbo S.

AMKC

I seen a white one of these yesterday just outside connelly Station heading towards the queys I think. Big car. Looked stunning.

blingrhino

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119837364#Comment_119837364

Yes Cross Turismo 4

unkel

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119837364#Comment_119837364

Price is the price. No fantasy. I'd buy the base model and not spend a cent on extras. AT €96k just €11k more than a BMW i4 M50 base model. Which makes the latter absurdly overpriced.

digiman

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119838158#Comment_119838158

I own an i4 m50 and I did consider the Taycan and test drove it, beautiful car and if I had €50k more I would probably have bought it. But I would never buy the base spec Taycan, I specced up a Taycan to be of similar performance, range and spec as the base i4 M50 as per the link below and it came in at €129k. I could easily have specced another €10-15k as I didn’t include sunroof, comfort access, matrix headlights etc which can all be got on m50 also.

http://www.porsche-code.com/PPI1C6P9

I don’t buy the line about worst house on best street and best house on worst street. Genuinely don’t think it applies here at all when it comes to purchasing a car. I’d just never go with a **** spec car, you really need to spend a ton on a Taycan. I compared the Taycan 4S to the M50 and would could make the argument that you’d need to get a GTS to be of comparable performance, but that’s another €20k or so again!!

I’d also go for the Sports Turismo if I was buying, absolutely beautiful machine.

UhOh

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119838158#Comment_119838158

Buying a base Taycan & not adding anything is absurd IMO - metallic paint, nice wheels (std 19 inch Taycan wheels are awful), folding exterior mirrors, adaptive suspension, HUD, surround view camera, park assist, lane change assist, adaptive cruise control, comfort access, ambient lighting, heated seats, memory seats, heated steering wheel, electric sound, performance battery, dc converter - all optional extras off the top of my head. Tbh I’d be surprised if Porsche let you order one without having any extras included.

unkel

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119838610#Comment_119838610

That's preposterous. Of course they would let you buy a base model as advertised at €96,080

Maybe one day I will be affluent and order the top model Taycan with all options ticked, but I can only imagine ever just being able to stretch to a base Taycan and I wouldn't honestly tick a single box, unless the base colour is white only. Most of the tech is not that advanced, particularly user interface, software, the active cruise / lane assist / lane changing / park assist LOL who needs that? - all very basic and old hat from where I'm coming from, so I will have to make concessions anyway. I'd buy it because it is a Porsche, it drives like a Porsche and it has the executive quality of a Porsche. No BMW comes close, particularly not one of the lower range models.

And all this is coming from a BMW fanboi. Not a Porsche fanboi and not a Tesla fanboi.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119838924#Comment_119838924

I get what you are saying, but when it comes to resale values, some cars just don’t sell well in their base level form.

unkel

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119839089#Comment_119839089

You'd be surprised. Almost all cars in their base level form will hold a higher percentage of their value given the same time passing. Or in other words, optional extras depreciate far quicker than the car itself. Many of them depreciate by up to 100% very quickly and only make the car easier to sell, not adding anything or not much to the second hand value.