Porsche Taycan

Gumbo

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120564935#Comment_120564935

Plus I want all you guys to buy now so I can buy second hand in 5 years 🤣🤣

Fitz II

Look this sort of purchase is not made with the brain. It makes no sense. Its made with the heart and as a reward or present to yourself. Its easy underestimate how much these things make you feel good, and its a clean, wholesome interest to have. I have rarely met a car person that was not nice...its like people who like animals...never bad people.

If you can afford it and its not to the detriment of other more important things in your life, just do it and dont overthink it. The next recession will be around soon enough and we can all be miserable frugal sods again then.

Moe1013

You guys are bad for my finances! I’ll let you know if/when!

Gumbo

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120565800#Comment_120565800

You might be wana run the build spec by us first. I wana make sure I’m getting the right options….I mean you 👀

joe1303l

Some nice used Taycans listed on usedcarsni.com. Not sure how they’d fair out with vat/vrt if imported here though.

s8n

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120567347#Comment_120567347

Has anyone imported from NI / UK ?

VRT calculator not listing Taycans

Moe1013

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120565910#Comment_120565910

That made me laugh. I’ll take a down payment as a deposit now?

http://www.porsche-code.com/PRVUNDZ4

Is what it’s looking like, v little to spend on extras. Think this is my sweet spot but open to opinions. My other build has no sunroof but a Crayon/Black leather interior.. I can look after it, don’t worry. Fitz’s comments I’ve taken onboard. I was looking just at a RWD initially..

LasersGoPewPew

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120572896#Comment_120572896

If you can stretch your budget for the matrix (plds) headlights you won't regret it. I had the pleasure of a night time drive in a Taycan and they were absolutely amazing for visibility.

Fitz II

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120572896#Comment_120572896

I like that spec, looks classy. Only thing I like extra is Bose. Otherwise spot on.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120573178#Comment_120573178

They are fantastic,, and if do a lot of night driving maybe one to consider. Expensive all the same. And for the city dweller, its amazing how little full beam driving you do even in winter I have had both and honestly the standard light are no slouches either, and they are fully automatic.

Cyrus

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120572896#Comment_120572896

my neighbour has one similar and it looks great, im not sure what wheels he has, they dont appear on the config at the moment but more black in them and he also has all black trim (instead of the chrome around the windows) it looks great with the crayon

Mr.David

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120572896#Comment_120572896

Looks good.

Maybe you wont use them but roof rails are cheap option once you have the pan roof added

Also perhaps gloss black/body coloured mirror base? the standard plastic ones are a bit cheap looking

ELM327

No performance battery in that build, 124k for a short range taycan? Each to his own but thats a huge chunk of change on a very short range (by modern standard) EV

Fitz II

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120574574#Comment_120574574

Indeed, well spotted. I have to agree a 4s without the performance battery will be slower to launch and have less range. It makes sense on the RWD to have the standard battery but on a more performance orientate model maybe not. Certainly resale will suffer without it. I would add it on but a hefty 5k extra....its never ending the extras list isnt it. Why on earth is the 4s not not that battery as standard.

ELM327

Agree. Theres a case to be made for a base spec rwd taycan with the smaller battery, but not on anything else. Resale proof IMO.

The etron gt doesnt have the smaller battery at all, the base spec has the big battery

blingrhino

I Would drop the pan roof and add the performance battery plus,it will soften the blow on the 5k cost.

Only rear passengers get the benefit of the pan - i think i might have looked up a handful of times and not sure it brightens the cabin too much.

Moe1013

Thanks for all the comments folks. I can live without the roof rails, however it’s a good spot. The battery issue is not great, however the extra 5k is simply not good value for me. Gets 50km extra range and virtually no performance benefit.. Prefer to spec the fast dc charger at 400 euro , especially as network availability only getting better in time.. probably ! Would it be a deal breaker on resale? Hmmm. In other countries maybe, dunno about Ireland.

Some say the sports chrono package is a deal breaker.. too many options. But is it a heart over head decision at the end of it all?

Moe1013

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120578856#Comment_120578856

Thanks for that.. going to look at that again in real life, perhaps the brighter crayon/black leather a better idea?

Fitz II

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120582328#Comment_120582328

If you are not going for the performance battery,, would you not consider dropping back to the RWD and saving the money over the 4s. The RWD with the lighter small battery will be more like the 4s with the small battery than you think. Traction is not an issue,, and the taycan doesnt have the clearance for snow driving anyway so 4WD is purely for acceleration performance. .

On the secondary market the performance battery on a 4s is a deal breaker for a lot of people (myself included) so you will likely lose more than the cost of the bigger battery come resale time. Not point having a 2k paintjob and 2k alloys and the small battery. Also with crayon you need to spec a lot of black bits to break it up, the taycan is a large car, and Crayon can be a bit overwhelming if everything is painted.

Moe1013

I think we are now banding the cars in a certain way here. The RWD has considerably less performance than the 4s. 0-60 5.4 vs 4.0. Also no adaptive air suspension, which I need..Isuspect the resale will be stronger on the 4, when all this calms down. The battery plus is just a bigger battery, just 15-17% extra range and times are indentical otherwise. Just struggling to see the attraction. But it is interesting you would consider it a deal breaker. Perceptions are everything I suppose.

Cyrus

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120582549#Comment_120582549

i could be wrong but i dont see how 4s resale would be stronger in percentages terms v the rwd, especially with the smaller battery. The RWD is the entry level into porsche non suv ownership basically, that will always be appealing.

Fitz II

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120582549#Comment_120582549

You not quite right there, the PBP can sustain more voltage and at lower charge levels. There is about 50 horsepower in it. The PBP is heavier so there is some 0-60 penalty on it, but the "in gear" acceleration is better as is performance at low charge levels. I have draggied a 4s at 3.6 seconds with Performance battery so the difference in the real world is significant. The 4s buyer will want it,, and the vast majority of other 4s for sale will have it, the RWD driver wont care as much as they are already in the non performance category and want to keep costs low. At the end of the day you spec it as you want it but expect to take the hit on resale. Buy a 4CT comes with performance battery and air suspension as standard for 5k less than a 4s. If I were speccing a Taycan again, I would have a RWD in no cost white and the bare minimum of options. The taycan is too big to be a performance car, so long range and comfort are the priority. The non adjustable suspension is very comfortable.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120582564#Comment_120582564

My point would be a 4s without the PBP will be 5k less on the secondary than one with PBP so I find its omission odd. The RWD will always be strong as its the entry level,, and as such I would keep options off it as an expensive RWD is as pointless as hobbling the performance on a 4s.

bf

I like the spec you linked on the 4s. For me the performance battery (or lack of it) wouldn't be an issue - but again personal choice. I think it comes down to your plans for the car

If you plan to hold the car short term (less than 3 years) I would go RWD with a few necessary options, if you plan longer term - go 4s with the options you want. RWD to me will hold a higher % of initial value in short to medium term

I recently sold my one year old Taycan RWD and made money on it

Moe1013

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120584015#Comment_120584015

This is where I’m coming from after mulling things over. Clearly there is a lot of merit in speccing a RWD model in a basic fashion. However it’s not the car I’m looking for. I think I will hold onto the car for a minimum of 3 years, and quite possibly longer. So basically buying what you want, for a price you are comfortable at, is my thinking.

Fitz’s comments are interesting, still not sold on the battery after reading elsewhere. He has experience, I do not, granted. They do say in all Porsche models the manufacturer underestimates the perf figures. Take what you want from that I suppose. If I’m wrong on the resale it will be all my fault! I wonder what percentage of cars in Ireland have them fitted so far?

On subject if adaptive suspension, I live in an area with lots of speed ramps and bumps and assumed it was pretty much mandatory in a car like this to have the option of raising to protect the undercarriage. Am I being too concerned? What have people’s experience been? Don’t want the CT model though, not for me.

ELM327

So, as some of you may have seen, Tesla cancelled my plaid order (and all RHD ones). This makes me interested in other premium cars and I'm reconsidering the taycan.

Do porsche Ireland do PCP? Looking to buy early Q3. I'd even consider the mamba green inventory turbo S, doesnt have to be brand new either. Just looking to get moved as fast as possible away from the elon cult.

bf

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120587621#Comment_120587621

Yes they do PCP, but their rates are extortionate from memory they were 9% in 2022 before ECB rates even increased! If you want a new car for Q3, I'd say if you haven't missed the boat on a build slot for Q3 delivery, you are very close to missing it. Ring Porsche Dublin to find out, I found their staff very good & honest.

A few ex-UK Taycans appearing in dealers now, mainly turbos. I love Mamba Green, but wasn't brave enough to go for it! The colour has been discontinued, so will make it rare going forward.

Fitz II

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120587621#Comment_120587621

Congrats on your release from the Tesla Cut and fanboi echo chamber. You will notice that people away from tesla brand, do weird things like have open discussions about the pros and cons of cars, and allow negative comments. Most are also not under the impression that their car is the greatest car in the world...weird I know, but you will get used to it. 😁

Nice nearly new turbo S should fit the bill nicely and has actual brakes unlike the Plaid and looks way better. I see a number for sale now. The earlier cars had a few teething problems but likely all those have been fixed at this stage. Mamba greem is absolutely mega in person.

Cyrus

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120587600#Comment_120587600

If I'm correct you need to programme in where the speed bumps are basically so that it will raise as you get close to them, my neighbour is super paranoid about them around here but I don't recall Fitz being as worried and don't think the car ever bottomed out? He can correct me if I'm wrong /

Fitz II

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120592029#Comment_120592029

With the air suspension in normal mode you will make if over most speedbumps no problem, only issue is the car is very long so steep slopes can catch the front splitter. THe raise setting does work but I found it slow enough to raise and will go back down over a certain speed. I used it rarely prefering to slow down more. Every time you raise it up it asks do you want to store the location. I had a RWD on regular suspension and did not think it caught any more than the air suspension in normal. It does scrape from time to time, but its only plastic down there and you cant see the scrapes (unless you are thick enough to spec carbon splitters) ....TLDR yeah it bottoms out a bit, not a big deal

Gumbo

@ELM327

joe1303l

Assuming this is a N.I registered Taycan, what would it cost to bring South in terms of VRT, VAT & Customs ?

https://mcmillanspecialistcars.com/car-sales/2021-porsche-taycan-performance/