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PV Feed In Tariff

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,232 ✭✭✭waterwelly


    A smart meter installer!

    Maybe it's something that's in the pipeline as you said.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,321 ✭✭✭✭KCross


    Maybe it's something that's in the pipeline as you said.

    And that will be a very long pipeline! 😉

    I cant see them implementing that. The hassle of multiple accounts for not alot of gain. The vast majority of people will have modest amounts of FiT.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,232 ✭✭✭waterwelly


    Was thinking that. They would need to have a standing charge which would negate any benefits I'm sure.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 349 ✭✭JayBee66


    The best you are going to get is agile pricing. You get to chose when you export to your supplier and that will be at the optimal price. You'll need a battery for that so you can discharge at peak rate time when the Sun is down. With a 5KW battery it's probably more trouble than it's worth, judging by the Solcast forecast jugglers. Better if you had a vehicle to grid EV, which will hold an order of magnitude more energy.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,991 ✭✭✭✭the_amazing_raisin


    They should email you a seperate bill showing your export units, but my experience is they're pretty unreliable

    I suggest emailing them to request it and they should send it out pretty quickly

    They do generally apply the credit, but it's sending the bill which they fall down at

    "The internet never fails to misremember" - Sebastian Ruiz, aka Frost



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 652 ✭✭✭creativedrinker




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 901 ✭✭✭ColemanY2K


    how do you find out which substation is yours? i can see the lines from the houses around me all head in the same particular direction. only problem is there's three substations in that direction.

    fortunately two of the substations are amber and the third green but i would still like to find out which sub is mine.

    P.S. I note there was a comment earlier this year that the map has not been updated. this is no longer the case as it now says June 2023.

    🌞 7.79kWp PV System. Comprised of 4.92kWp Tilting Ground Mount + 2.87kWp @ 27°, azimuth 180°, West Waterford 🌞



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,991 ✭✭✭✭the_amazing_raisin


    If you click on each of the icons there should be an entry for Parent substation

    One of the three may be the parent of the others which could narrow it down. You can also filter out the 38kV stations since you won't be directly connected to one of them

    The somewhat coarse method is to assume it's the closest one

    The other extremely coarse method is to wait for a power cut and see which stations are affected by the fault

    "The internet never fails to misremember" - Sebastian Ruiz, aka Frost



  • Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators Posts: 7,015 Mod ✭✭✭✭graememk


    How rural are you? If you can follow the lines back you might be able to figure it out. But if they are all in the one place.. could be harder.

    Esbn might be able to tell you



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 901 ✭✭✭ColemanY2K


    i'm fairly rural alright. i'll try and follow the lines but there's forest in between which could make it tricky.

    if it comes to it i'll do what you say and ask esbn.

    🌞 7.79kWp PV System. Comprised of 4.92kWp Tilting Ground Mount + 2.87kWp @ 27°, azimuth 180°, West Waterford 🌞



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 901 ✭✭✭ColemanY2K


    i tried that, unfortunately none of them were the parent.

    🌞 7.79kWp PV System. Comprised of 4.92kWp Tilting Ground Mount + 2.87kWp @ 27°, azimuth 180°, West Waterford 🌞



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 671 ✭✭✭Johnny Jukebox


    Same here. So I set up an account on ESB Networks web site and I could see what ESBN says I am exporting to the gird. Then I called Flogas and explained that my FIT data was missing from my bill. After a bit of huffing and puffing and reference to the ESBN view of the world, Flogas stated that there is a delay in obtaining the "records" from ESBN - didn't say whose delay though - and that I should see the FIT credits on my next bill. Strange that I can see and export all my data from my ESBN account but Flogas can't get it...

    Let's see what the next bill has...



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 457 ✭✭mrm


    Just got email from Flogas that from 6 November 2023, their export tariff rate will reduce from €0.22 to €0.185 per kWh (exc. VAT).



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 321 ✭✭RTT


    Same here. Annoying that even though I'm on a fixed rate, they can change their export tariff.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,559 ✭✭✭wexfordman2


    If we had any form of a decent regulator that would be disallowed! Feckin joke



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,479 ✭✭✭DaveyDave


    Our solar rate went up with Energia, 18c to 24c.

    They should be paying what they charge us. 24c is hardly doing us good when they're charging upwards or 40c per unit. I don't know why they're allowed shaft us by not paying fair amounts.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,245 ✭✭✭Busman Paddy Lasty


    Yeh that above. The differential is the important bit for the majority of people (without mega batteries)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,427 ✭✭✭eeepaulo


    Would someone be willing to give me a hdf file from ESBNetworks that includes the fit column.

    Feel free to change the mprn and meter number to xxxxxxxxxxxx. Doesnt even need to be the full file, just a few lines would be enough.

    thanks



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 222 ✭✭Latro




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,506 ✭✭✭jlang


    On the topic of interpreting the HDF, anyone got a convenient way to import and visualise the usage now that I've downloaded the file? (Excel/Python/whatever)

    Looking for anything more sophisticated than the ESB Networks plot which gives a nice picture of up to a week but doesn't really do anything deeper. I'm interested in looking at the in/out power flow summing across days of week/times of day/months of year/etc.

    I've sanity checked the data and only have a few weeks worth at the moment so I just want to save reinventing the wheel for now (and I'm sure I will do so in good time :) ).



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 256 ✭✭curioustony


    The bones (in python) of what you are looking for can be found here: https://github.com/Tonyslogic/tout-compare

    See: dataPopulation\makedbFromESBNSmartDataFile.py. This only covers import, but export is a trivial extension.

    There are lots of examples elsewhere in that repo to throw up graphs.

    🌞7.225 kWp, azimuth 136°, slope 24°, 5kW, 🛢️10.9kWh, Roscommon



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,321 ✭✭✭✭KCross


    The 2024 budget has increased the tax free allowance from €200 to €400 for FiT

    Makes sense. €200 was too low and no one was going to declare the small amounts above €200.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,479 ✭✭✭DaveyDave


    I wouldn't be declaring €400 either in fairness...



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,321 ✭✭✭✭KCross


    You'd need to export ~2000 units to hit that €400 allowance.

    The vast majority wont be going over that and if they do it wont be by much.... except for the tiny few big battery DIY'ers who are importing by night and exporting their battery by day.



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 19,813 Mod ✭✭✭✭slave1


    If FIT remains generous a lot of folk will stop PV heating their water and charging their car from late March to early October and instead do it overnight on cheaper unit rates, this will bring the non-battery masses into play. ~2000 units works out around 10units a day over 7 months.

    This is good as it allows PV stablise the grid when non-renewables are in high demand



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,232 ✭✭✭waterwelly


    And with 2 names on the bill its now €800 AFAIK?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,321 ✭✭✭✭KCross




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,991 ✭✭✭✭the_amazing_raisin


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    @unkel right now 😂

    EDIT: FYI, don't try to link giphy on boards 🤦‍♂️

    "The internet never fails to misremember" - Sebastian Ruiz, aka Frost



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 66,633 ✭✭✭✭unkel


    Yes doubling the tax free allowance for feed in tariff is very good news, not just for me personally, but in general to stimulate people to let their PV / battery systems stabilise the grid. This is imho more important than renewables themselves as it is the solution for the periods we will always have without sun or wind and for coping with peak demand

    I'm currently (high demand time early evening with very low wind and zero solar PV) dumping 3kW into the grid for the next few hours, only to automatically buy it back again, but 5-6 times cheaper, in the wee hours when the country often produces more renewable electricity from wind than we need



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,802 ✭✭✭yankinlk


    Had a quick look at Yuno Energy since bonkers told me they were my cheapest option... FIT is a very low .14c.


    Are bonkers.ie broken/useless for anyone with PV panels? No FIT rate comparison and i dont really trust the providers they pick.

    Yuno energy is there current flavour of the month (do they pay bonkers to get up there??).



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