FF/FG/Green Next Government

StackSteevens

I see Harry Potter has crawled out from under his rock to try and make SF seem relevant. Nice try, Harry!

https://www.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews/ireland/government-formation-sinn-fein-open-to-fianna-fail-coalition-if-tonights-votes-fall-through-1007660.html

StackSteevens

LawBoy2018 wrote: »

Lisa Chambers hiring BOTH of her sisters! Lol. She is definitely one of the top 5 sketchiest TDs of the last decade.

https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/politics/high-profile-ex-td-lisa-chambers-among-senators-who-hired-family-members-for-taxpayer-funded-jobs-39311133.html

Ah shure someone has to mind her new babby for her. And who better than one of her siblings?

is_that_so

Seems we won't know till about 8 as Greens count will take that long, FG should be done mid-afternoon and FF by about 7 p.m.

markodaly

The first thing people like Paul Murphy and Brid Smith will do..... organise a protest.

JohnnyFlash

markodaly wrote: »

The first thing people like Paul Murphy and Brid Smith will do..... organise a protest.

There was dust starting to gather on their megaphones.

PixieValentine

FG are in. 80% yes, 20% no.

ACitizenErased

PixieValentine wrote: »

FG are in. 80% yes, 20% no.

no surprises there......

markodaly

JohnnyFlash wrote: »

There was dust starting to gather on their megaphones.

I can hear it now.

"We reject this government!!"

Well, what the **** were you doing for the past 4 months trying to set up an alternative one?

touts

markodaly wrote: »

The first thing people like Paul Murphy and Brid Smith will do..... organise a protest.

Second item on their agenda. Acrimonious Split.

piplip87

markodaly wrote: »

The first thing people like Paul Murphy and Brid Smith will do..... organise a protest.

I see Murphy has jumped on the Ecosocialist bandwagon since the Green Surge in the local elections. He has notions over Saorise McHugh too. I'd imagine he will push hard for some of the disenfranchised green members if this goes forward.

Although I'd love to attend one of their meetings after they join. I can't imagine many of the D4 greens getting along with the Jobstown not guilty crowd at all

Truthvader

markodaly wrote: »

The first thing people like Paul Murphy and Brid Smith will do..... organise a protest.

And the last and the only. Addicted to the sound of their own shrill voices. No solutions to anything though

JohnnyFlash

touts wrote: »

Second item on their agenda. Acrimonious Split.

After hours of passionate and sometimes fraught debate at an EGM in the Teachers Club.

Kermit.de.frog

ACitizenErased wrote: »

I'm fairly out of the loop to be honest lads, is there a better chance of the votes passing today or failing? Or is it impossible to predict?

Of course it will pass.

A lot of snouts too close to the trough to turn back now

christy c

Its probably the best government that could be formed from the results in February, but still very uninspiring. Expect plenty of more money to be thrown in to black holes such as the HSE and social welfare, where working tax payers are seen as cash cows.

I'd still be still hopeful of a centre right or even right wing party emerging, but unfortunately it doesn't look likely at the moment.

Loafing Oaf

christy c wrote: »

I'd still be still hopeful of a centre right or even right wing party emerging, but unfortunately it doesn't look likely at the moment.

The thread about the National Party entering the mainstream might change your mind on that. Or perhaps not...

touts

Looks like a heavy Yes from Fianna Fail. Just watched the count on their LiveStream. The guy nearest the camera had two piles. Assume Yes/No. Watched him count them. 54 in one 11 in the other. Missed the exact count for the girl beside him had two similar proportioned piles (one very big one very small).

christy c

Loafing Oaf wrote: »

The thread about the National Party entering the mainstream might change your mind on that. Or perhaps not...

Never even opened that thread to be honest But I mean right eing economically, not other nut job stuff.

touts

touts wrote: »

Looks like a heavy Yes from Fianna Fail. Just watched the count on their LiveStream. The guy nearest the camera had two piles. Assume Yes/No. Watched him count them. 54 in one 11 in the other. Missed the exact count for the girl beside him had two similar proportioned piles (one very big one very small).

Just watched a third lady (seems to be the last one counting) Again two piles. One large one small Count 39 in one 8 in another


Actually no they are back counting again. But the trend is continuing. running 5-6 in one pile for every 1 in another pile. Can't see it being a heavy No. So assuming that the large pile is a Yes and I've seen a good 200 votes in the time watching a fairly good sample to predict a large Yes Vote.

markodaly

markodaly wrote: »

I can hear it now.

"We reject this government!!"

Well, what the **** were you doing for the past 4 months trying to set up an alternative one?

No, no, no. You’ve gotten it wrong. It’ll go like this.
“Wha do we wan?”
“Change”
Or “FFFGGREENS Ou, Ou, Ou....”

Or words to that affect.

StackSteevens

piplip87 wrote: »

I see Murphy has jumped on the Ecosocialist bandwagon since the Green Surge in the local elections. He has notions over Saorise McHugh too. I'd imagine he will push hard for some of the disenfranchised green members if this goes forward.

Although I'd love to attend one of their meetings after they join. I can't imagine many of the D4 greens getting along with the Jobstown not guilty crowd at all

I'd say that Saoirse is just waiting for the wink from Matt Carthy to clamber eagerly aboard the hot air powered Sinn Fein charabanc.

But hopefully Smirker will manage to entice Neasa Hourigan to sign up for RISE or whatever today's version of The Paul Murphy Party is called. They really do deserve oneanother.

Shefwedfan

LawBoy2018 wrote: »

Lisa Chambers hiring BOTH of her sisters! Lol. She is definitely one of the top 5 sketchiest TDs of the last decade.

https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/politics/high-profile-ex-td-lisa-chambers-among-senators-who-hired-family-members-for-taxpayer-funded-jobs-39311133.html

She is small time when you see this shower of gangsters



https://www.rte.ie/news/business/2019/1212/1098772-85-increase-in-profit-at-healy-rae-plant-hire-company/

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/ireland/irish-news/danny-healy-rae-s-haulage-firm-has-earned-8-7m-in-state-contracts-1.3179273

Plus the majority of family is on payroll from government

blanch152

Bowie wrote: »

Happens all the time. Some try make it claims of criminality so they can dispute it. Cronyism doesn't need be an illegal act. I've educated a number of folk on that point yet they persist in trying to cover. All the parties are at it it's just government parties can cause greater damage.
Hiring a driver to the board of Irish Water was a gas one. Sure it's only tax payer money. I'm sure he was the best man for the job

Wasn't it Mick Wallace who hired his son who was unqualified for the job and was double-jobbing on Mick's other projects?

FrancieBrady

2 wrongs making it right.

Ah well so.

_Kaiser_

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

Green party results delayed until 8 pm.

Doesn't take that long to count

2000 eligible members isn't it? That should take no more than 2 hours

So, are they..

- Holding off for a dramatic announcement for the 9 O'Clock news?
- Panicking because the results aren't going the way they want/expect?

Vote now

Jinglejangle69

FrancieBrady wrote: »

2 wrongs making it right.

Ah well so.

Your classic answer when the IRA is brought up.

Sure the Brits did it.

Two wrongs ay.

LawBoy2018

Shefwedfan wrote: »

She is small time when you see this shower of gangsters



https://www.rte.ie/news/business/2019/1212/1098772-85-increase-in-profit-at-healy-rae-plant-hire-company/

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/ireland/irish-news/danny-healy-rae-s-haulage-firm-has-earned-8-7m-in-state-contracts-1.3179273

Plus the majority of family is on payroll from government

They also make the top 5. I would also throw in Michael Lowry + John O'Donoghue.

As someone in her constituency, I think it would take a massive effort from Lisa to redeem herself in Mayo, which is a shame. I actually voted for her once.

StackSteevens

blanch152 wrote: »

Wasn't it Mick Wallace who hired his son who was unqualified for the job and was double-jobbing on Mick's other projects?

That would be the same son who Clare Daly is currently employing as her teaboy and chief arsewiper in Brussels.

is_that_so

_Kaiser_ wrote: »

2000 eligible members isn't it? That should take no more than 2 hours

So, are they..

- Holding off for a dramatic announcement for the 9 O'Clock news?
- Panicking because the results aren't going the way they want/expect?

Vote now

Apparently they all need to be verified first.

StackSteevens

is_that_so wrote: »

Apparently they all need to be verified first.

Literacy problems with the voters or with the counters?

Itssoeasy

Shefwedfan wrote: »

She is small time when you see this shower of gangsters



https://www.rte.ie/news/business/2019/1212/1098772-85-increase-in-profit-at-healy-rae-plant-hire-company/

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/ireland/irish-news/danny-healy-rae-s-haulage-firm-has-earned-8-7m-in-state-contracts-1.3179273

Plus the majority of family is on payroll from government

The Healy raes ad playing senior football in this regard. How do you forget you're a publican exactly ? I remember reading the list of TDs where they declare their outside business dealings. It'd be have been easier for the Healy raes to list which part of kilgarvin they don't own in some way.