Relaxation of Restrictions, Part IV - **Read OP for Mod Warnings**

completedit

It's almost like we should just let people use their own minds and let behavior regulate itself rather than close an economy for 3 months.

road_high

hmmm wrote: »

There must be some other forum populated by people like yourself you can post on? What do you contribute to this thread other than infantile posts?

Ah go piss off and suck a few lemons - who asked you to even comment? I don’t even read your posts, all the same miserable ****e on loop for the past 3 months solid.

Obvious Desperate Breakfasts

retro:electro wrote: »

It’s great that so many things are reopening but realistically a lot of people will want to be able to enjoy doing these things without feeling like they’ve been dragged through a bush. I don’t care if it’s a vanity thing it probably is, open the salons ffs so we can at least look nice while doing things

This lockdown has made me realise that most people would not cope at all well with the hair loss aspect of chemo. :pac: I didn't go outdoors except for hospital for the entire duration of being bald.

hmmm

This is interesting - playgrounds are to reopen.

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/education/outdoor-children-s-playgrounds-set-to-reopen-from-monday-1.4271905

iamwhoiam

EmptyTree wrote: »

What is the logic to shops opening at 10.30? Genuine question - this is the first I've heard of this and would be interested to understand it

So shoppers dont mix with workers on public transport . Make total sense to me

double jobbing

Obvious Desperate Breakfasts wrote: »

Ye would in your hoop say anything to his face. Impotent keyboard warrior nonsense.

It's Simon Harris. Not Roy Keane.

Obvious Desperate Breakfasts

Isn't the hairdresser thing because hair is a big contaminant? I've worked in various bacteriology labs and we were not allowed to touch our hair in any of them.

Obvious Desperate Breakfasts

double jobbing wrote: »

It's Simon Harris. Not Roy Keane.

Yeah, you and whoever else was being a Johnny Big Balls still wouldn't say anything. Talk is cheap.

hmmm

Obvious Desperate Breakfasts wrote: »

Isn't the hairdresser thing because hair is a big contaminant? I've worked in various bacteriology labs and we were not allowed to touch our hair in any of them.

I haven't heard hair mentioned as a problem in relation to Covid. Primarily it seems to be extended close contact in usually an indoor setting which is a problem.

https://www.cnn.com/2020/05/23/us/missouri-hairstylist-coronavirus-trnd/index.html

0gac3yjefb5sv7

Will Pennies be open on the 15th June? Asking for a friend

Ginger n Lemon

Obvious Desperate Breakfasts wrote: »

Yeah, you and whoever else was being a Johnny Big Balls still wouldn't say anything. Talk is cheap.

Simon, is it you? :pac:

Obvious Desperate Breakfasts

hmmm wrote: »

I haven't heard hair mentioned as a problem in relation to Covid. Primarily it seems to be extended close contact in usually an indoor setting which is a problem.

https://www.cnn.com/2020/05/23/us/missouri-hairstylist-coronavirus-trnd/index.html

Well, covid is a microbe and it's a general microbiology rule. It's a place where microbes can gather and adhere to or be hidden within.

Stark

Stark wrote: »

Bulk of office workers will continue to work remotely I imagine.

Friend works with a mn, they were told in April that they will be working from home until January 2021 regardless of government advice. Same as the company I'm moving to in the next few weeks, but regardless I will be working from home full time as negotiated into my contract.

Some Irish companies might not however.

Hurrache

Hurrache wrote: »

Only if they're right on the border, it's anywhere within their own county, but if it brings you out of your home county, only 20km from your home. It's not 20km over the border regardless.

Just do it ! You really the Gardai in Co Louth are going to be out asking where we are going and if we’re crossing the border into Meath ?
I’m from Louth and in the last month have been to Kildare once, over to Navan Co Meath twice and up hiking in the Mournes twice. I didn’t get Covid and I didn’t pass Covid to anyone. Live your life. At this stage lockdown is completely over apart from pubs and hairdressers. Nobody is going to police travel.

Hurrache

Deleted User wrote: »

Just do it ! You really the Gardai in Co Louth are going to be out asking where we are going and if we’re crossing the border into Meath ?

I never implied anything of the type, my post was a couple of sentences long, hard to even purposely misrepresent that.

I posted the reasoning behind the new rules, as simple as that.

The rest of your post is just nonsense, did I imply you'd get Covid19 from travelling? Nope, at all.

And you actually may be surprised to think that yes, you are, like we all have been since this started, at risk of having our travel being policed. Even now if the gardai come across a bunch of people gathered in some public spot I'm sure they'll check where they're from and move then on. They won't care too much about individuals or couples and so on.

Ginger n Lemon

Irish news outlets

Varadkar’s fast-track approach to easing Covid-19 restrictions could put us in a speed wobble and make us hit the brakes
Kevin Doyle

https://www.independent.ie/opinion/comment/varadkars-fast-track-approach-to-easing-covid-19-restrictions-could-put-us-in-a-speed-wobble-and-make-us-hit-the-brakes-39263323.html

Youd think Irish media is owned by Gerry Killeen.

PS

"By staying at home, ordinary people proved all-powerful in a battle nobody could have imagined just a few months ago. Winning the war was, and remains, literally in our hands."

What a load of bull

bb1234567

gmisk wrote: »

County wide only by looks of it

I would love to head up from Dublin to see my folks in county Antrim

Just do it. Gardai I would imagine will not be checking. I would say much of this speed up is in reaction to nationwide disregard for social distancing measures in recent days. At the beach about a week ago, gardai were just going up to nearly every single group there to tell them to distance. They looked distressed and overworked. There was no way of policing that when literally everybody was ignoring the social distancing rules.

frillyleaf

Thelonious Monk wrote: »

I find it mad that there are headlines announcing groups of 6 can meet up from monday, as if it's a revelation of some sort, when there have been gangs of people everywhere in Dublin from about the 3rd week of LL this onward. Bit of a joke now.

What is LL?

PTH2009

Happy with today's announcement. My workplace is still the last phase but happy to see us opening up the economy faster

Assetbacked

Ginger n Lemon wrote: »

Irish news outlets

Varadkar’s fast-track approach to easing Covid-19 restrictions could put us in a speed wobble and make us hit the brakes
Kevin Doyle

https://www.independent.ie/opinion/comment/varadkars-fast-track-approach-to-easing-covid-19-restrictions-could-put-us-in-a-speed-wobble-and-make-us-hit-the-brakes-39263323.html

Youd think Irish media is owned by Gerry Killeen.

PS

"By staying at home, ordinary people proved all-powerful in a battle nobody could have imagined just a few months ago. Winning the war was, and remains, literally in our hands."

What a load of bull

Utter nonsense and nothing but fear mongering, uneducated opinion, unable to look at other countries in Europe who are way ahead of us. There was no spike after the May Bank holiday which should've put the hypochondriacs in their box but now there are still unfounded fears being aired for a misperceived escalated reopening. It was completely unjustified to move so slowly when we never had a first wave, especially when countries much worse than us actually started passing us out with their reopening. I hope we will see everyone out supporting their local businesses as much as possible as they reopen.

frillyleaf

Ginger n Lemon wrote: »

YESSSSS RESTRICTIONS ARE LIFTED WAAAAY EARLIER THAN SCHEDULE

ALL IS WELL

bar hairdressers and pubs not serving food. But if any pub owner from Clonmel who ll open anyways on 29th due to protests fiasco anything to go by, lockdown is officially over 29th of June.

:):)

Lets welcome tourists 29th of June onwards.

Poor Tony H must be fuming, has 99 problems and cause for concern is also one of them

I wouldn’t say he’s fuming at all, it is the best interest of HSE to open up as far ahead of typical flu season as possible. If they didn’t we would overwhelm the health system.

NegativeCreep

Obvious Desperate Breakfasts wrote: »

Well, covid is a microbe and it's a general microbiology rule. It's a place where microbes can gather and adhere to or be hidden within.

Hair is only a problem in clean rooms and the like as it is a place where microbes can grow. Mostly bacteria though. That’s why we wear hairnets and beard covers. Hair wouldn’t be a problem in hairdressers as everything in there will have the same microbes that your hair has anyway. The issue with hairdressers and barbers is the close contact for an extended period of time which is fair enough.

completedit

I love how the insentient coronavirus has decided to conform to human foreward planning and decide to stop being a substantial threat just as the masses began to wake up the economic ramifications of sustained lockdown restrictions. We could have known 3 months ago this was what was going to happen.

Breezin

tigerboon wrote: »

One of the biggest mysteries of the last few months.....how the hell did George Lee become a science correspondant??

Because economics is a science.


It's a reflection of RTE's now firmly-established ultra-conservatism. Many of the top jobs there are occupied by businessy bankery types.

retro:electro

NegativeCreep wrote: »

Hair is only a problem in clean rooms and the like as it is a place where microbes can grow. Mostly bacteria though. That’s why we wear hairnets and beard covers. Hair wouldn’t be a problem in hairdressers as everything in there will have the same microbes that your hair has anyway. The issue with hairdressers and barbers is the close contact for an extended period of time which is fair enough.

There will still be close contact on July 20th. It’s pure arbitrary and makes no sense. Hairdressers provided genuine and workable solutions in order to be allowed reopen and their proposals were shot down, a lot more than many other business’ did which are now allowed reopen. Clients and owners were prepared to wear masks for the duration of their service and this would have severely limited any chance of the virus spreading. Salons have been open in other countries for weeks and there’s been no spike.
The virus will still be here on July 20th.

Sammy2012

Why are hairdressers not allowed to open until the 20th of July??

NegativeCreep

retro:electro wrote: »

There will still be close contact on July 20th. It’s pure arbitrary and makes no sense. Hairdressers provided genuine and workable solutions in order to be allowed reopen and their proposals were shot down, a lot more than many other business’ did which are now allowed reopen. Clients and owners were prepared to wear masks for the duration of their service and this would have severely limited any chance of the virus spreading. Salons have been open in other countries for weeks and there’s been no spike.
The virus will still be here on July 20th.

Yeah I know that too. I didn’t mean it was fair enough that they won’t open but that I can see where the reasoning is coming from, not that I agree with it. I guess I just don’t care that much as I’ve learned to cut my own hair during lockdown!

saintsaltynuts

Ginger n Lemon wrote: »

What agenda does govt have against barbers???? :pac:

They just didn't make the cut.

CruelSummer

Stephen Murphy for Sky News reporting here...

https://news.sky.com/story/even-darkness-must-past-ireland-to-reopen-shops-and-people-can-have-visitors-in-their-homes-12001130

"The Irish people have been living under one of the most restrictive lockdowns in Europe.

According to experts at Oxford University, which measured the response of 160 countries, Ireland's restrictions have been among the tightest in Europe, significantly tougher than the UK's."

"But it's also important to remember that even from Monday, the Irish will still live under many restrictions.

Fellow Europeans in countries like France, Germany and even Italy can get their hair cut, send their children to school, enjoy a restaurant meal or a glass of wine in a local bar.

The Irish cannot…for several more weeks at least."

The contrast between this report and the Irish Independent report couldn't be starker. The Irish Independent have just come out with a scaremongering article to keep people afraid and fearful of trying to emerge from behind their curtains.

https://www.independent.ie/opinion/comment/varadkars-fast-track-approach-to-easing-covid-19-restrictions-could-put-us-in-a-speed-wobble-and-make-us-hit-the-brakes-39263323.html

Hurrache

Hurrache wrote: »

I never implied anything of the type, my post was a couple of sentences long, hard to even purposely misrepresent that.

I posted the reasoning behind the new rules, as simple as that.

The rest of your post is just nonsense, did I imply you'd get Covid19 from travelling? Nope, at all.

And you actually may be surprised to think that yes, you are, like we all have been since this started, at risk of having our travel being policed. Even now if the gardai come across a bunch of people gathered in some public spot I'm sure they'll check where they're from and move then on. They won't care too much about individuals or couples and so on.

Oh relax! I wasn't trying to misrepresent you - I'm just overjoyed at the relaxation of restrictions! Gardai are not going to be checking whether I am driving from Louth to Meath or Louth to Dublin. If they weren't doing this 3 weeks ago when I went to Kildare or to the Mournes, they're not going to be doing it now. And if I am stopped at this stage I am well able to handle myself. I won't be turning back.

I hope you can get some happiness and enjoyment out of the good news today! Have a lovely weekend