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Cycling on paths and other cycling issues (updated title)

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    #1862
    07Lapierre
    Registered Users Posts: 8,222 ✭✭✭07Lapierre


    Spook_ie wrote: »
    Did you bother to read the ACTUAL replies to that question?

    Collided with a dangerous gradient
    Collided with a pothole
    Collided with a Frozen Road
    Collided with Cycle Lane Disappeared
    Collided with Not Given

    It would seem to me to be a simple enough question, and to be honest I could accept Jeep, SUV and Range Rover as likely being the same type of vehicle but the answers would seem to be how thick some of the cyclists responding to the survey are. Perhaps it also indicates why you ( and others ) persist with your typical replies of " throwing mud around" "desperation" " you just hate cyclists" etc.

    Perhaps if you got off of your high nellies once in a while we could progress debates but not while you and your colleagues drop to insults and generalisations

    drop insults? you first.


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    #1863
    Duckjob
    Registered Users Posts: 2,858 ✭✭✭Duckjob


    Spook_ie wrote: »
    Did you bother to read the ACTUAL replies to that question?

    Collided with a dangerous gradient
    Collided with a pothole
    Collided with a Frozen Road
    Collided with Cycle Lane Disappeared
    Collided with Not Given

    It would seem to me to be a simple enough question, and to be honest I could accept Jeep, SUV and Range Rover as likely being the same type of vehicle but the answers would seem to be how thick some of the cyclists responding to the survey are. Perhaps it also indicates why you ( and others ) persist with your typical replies of " throwing mud around" "desperation" " you just hate cyclists" etc.

    Perhaps if you got off of your high nellies once in a while we could progress debates but not while you and your colleagues drop to insults and generalisations


    I'd be more inclined to see suppose thickness in those who can't (or won't) recognise that the co-relation between the actual questions put to people in surveys and how the results are written up is often not exact and can be a bit clumsy.


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    #1864
    AndrewJRenko
    Registered Users Posts: 28,708 ✭✭✭✭AndrewJRenko


    Spook_ie wrote: »
    Did you bother to read the ACTUAL replies to that question?

    Collided with a dangerous gradient
    Collided with a pothole
    Collided with a Frozen Road
    Collided with Cycle Lane Disappeared
    Collided with Not Given

    It would seem to me to be a simple enough question, and to be honest I could accept Jeep, SUV and Range Rover as likely being the same type of vehicle but the answers would seem to be how thick some of the cyclists responding to the survey are. Perhaps it also indicates why you ( and others ) persist with your typical replies of " throwing mud around" "desperation" " you just hate cyclists" etc.

    Perhaps if you got off of your high nellies once in a while we could progress debates but not while you and your colleagues drop to insults and generalisations

    It looks like the 'collided with' is being added behind the scenes, which is why it seems a little off to you.


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    #1865
    Hurrache
    Registered Users Posts: 10,172 ✭✭✭✭Hurrache


    07Lapierre wrote: »
    From the UK, but this also happens a lot on narrower roads..

    Big difference is that the police immediately made contact with the tweeter in order to take action.


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    #1866
    ewc78
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 480 ✭✭ewc78


    How did he know he was going to the Golf Club?


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    #1867
    07Lapierre
    Registered Users Posts: 8,222 ✭✭✭07Lapierre


    Who cares what're he's going? A convertible Audi? Yeah probably a (bad) amateur Golfer alright! :)


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    #1868
    Spook_ie
    Registered Users Posts: 10,896 ✭✭✭✭Spook_ie


    07Lapierre wrote: »
    drop insults? you first.

    I try not to insult people because I've had more than my share of run ins with Monument in his capacity as moderator, if you have examples of where my debating has exceeded the norms of conversation then please do highlight them


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    #1869
    devnull
    Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators Posts: 11,609 Mod ✭✭✭✭devnull


    Spook_ie wrote: »
    I try not to insult people because I've had more than my share of run ins with Monument in his capacity as moderator, if you have examples of where my debating has exceeded the norms of conversation then please do highlight them

    Do not discuss moderation or gripes with moderators on thread, it is against the charter and if it continues will result in sanctions.

    - Moderator


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    #1870
    07Lapierre
    Registered Users Posts: 8,222 ✭✭✭07Lapierre


    Spook_ie wrote: »
    I try not to insult people because I've had more than my share of run ins with Monument in his capacity as moderator, if you have examples of where my debating has exceeded the norms of conversation then please do highlight them

    You failed on that score.


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    #1871
    ewc78
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 480 ✭✭ewc78


    07Lapierre wrote: »
    Who cares what're he's going? A convertible Audi? Yeah probably a (bad) amateur Golfer alright! :)

    Jebebus...cyclists who hate to be stereotyped have no problem stereotyping another group of people... interesting...


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    #1872
    07Lapierre
    Registered Users Posts: 8,222 ✭✭✭07Lapierre


    ewc78 wrote: »
    Jebebus...cyclists who hate to be stereotyped have no problem stereotyping another group of people... interesting...

    The smiley face at the end should have given you a hint that I was JOKING!

    Us cyclists have a sense of humour.


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    #1873
    ewc78
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 480 ✭✭ewc78


    07Lapierre wrote: »

    Us cyclists have a sense of humour.

    I don't believe you.


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    #1874
    07Lapierre
    Registered Users Posts: 8,222 ✭✭✭07Lapierre


    ewc78 wrote: »
    I don't believe you.

    Ah you drive an Audi right? :):)


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    #1875
    Hurrache
    Registered Users Posts: 10,172 ✭✭✭✭Hurrache


    ewc78 wrote: »
    I don't believe you.

    We've been entertaining this thread for long enough, it anything it's humour at endurance level.


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    #1876
    AndrewJRenko
    Registered Users Posts: 28,708 ✭✭✭✭AndrewJRenko


    FinnC wrote: »
    This is very strange behaviour imo. It's not your job to police other road users.
    You'll do it to the wrong person someday.

    What's strange about it? Do you not say anything when you see somebody driving in a way that endangers you?

    I don't get to police anything. Sometimes, I get to talk to other adults, one adult to another, to say things like 'could you put your phone down when you're driving' or similar. What's wrong with that? Do you ever speak up to others? If a dog walker lets their dog crap on your lawn every morning, are you going to say anything or are you going to speak up?

    Anyway, back to dangerous drivers - I saw another of those 'exceedingly rare' late red-light-jumpers today, a full six seconds after the light had gone red. I don't think he was a 'menacing with intent' driver, as he was decent enough to hold back and let me pull out to pass the bus. And then he drove straight through the red light.

    https://streamable.com/lyie8l

    Maybe he missed this set of lights and was focused on the next set of lights over the bridge? Either way, it would be a fairly clear indication that if I can spot three of these events in two weeks, perhaps they're not quite as exceedingly rare as some might suggest.


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    #1877
    ewc78
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 480 ✭✭ewc78


    07Lapierre wrote: »
    Ah you drive an Audi right? :):)
    Oh wait was I supposed to put a smiley face at the end of that last post to show you I was joking?

    But since you asked.I doubt I'd be able fit 2 extension ladders, 2 A frame ladders, masonary drills, tool boxes and multiple rolls of cable in the back of an Audi convertible.

    I don't Golf either btw before you ask, my hurling grip wasn't suited to a smooth swing.
    *insert smiley face*


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    #1878
    ewc78
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 480 ✭✭ewc78


    Hurrache wrote: »
    Big difference is that the police immediately made contact with the tweeter in order to take action.

    Ultimately no one got hurt though eh?


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    #1879
    07Lapierre
    Registered Users Posts: 8,222 ✭✭✭07Lapierre


    ewc78 wrote: »
    Oh wait was I supposed to put a smiley face at the end of that last post to show you I was joking?

    But since you asked.I doubt I'd be able fit 2 extension ladders, 2 A frame ladders, masonary drills, tool boxes and multiple rolls of cable in the back of an Audi convertible.

    I don't Golf either btw before you ask, my hurling grip wasn't suited to a smooth swing.
    *insert smiley face*

    Ah "white van man"! Gotcha! ;)


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    #1880
    ewc78
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 480 ✭✭ewc78


    07Lapierre wrote: »
    Ah "white van man"! Gotcha! ;)

    Black actually. I'm not a Plumber ffs.
    Black Vans Matter.


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    #1881
    07Lapierre
    Registered Users Posts: 8,222 ✭✭✭07Lapierre


    ewc78 wrote: »
    Black actually. I'm not a Plumber ffs.
    Black Vans Matter.

    BLACK! OMG! I hope your DRL’s are working and you’ve wired the back lights into them? Have you considered a few Hi viz/ day glow stripes down the side of your van!


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    #1882
    ewc78
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 480 ✭✭ewc78


    07Lapierre wrote: »
    BLACK! OMG! I hope your DRL’s are working and you’ve wired the back lights into them? Have you considered a few Hi viz/ day glow stripes down the side of your van!

    That is someone else's fight not mine!
    No interest in being dragged into it thanks.


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    #1883
    Pinch Flat
    Registered Users Posts: 7,761 ✭✭✭Pinch Flat


    ewc78 wrote: »
    That is someone else's fight not mine!
    No interest in being dragged into it thanks.

    you need to go and have your van sprayed in yellow hi vis paint IMMEDIATELY. :D


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    #1884
    FinnC
    Registered Users Posts: 579 ✭✭✭FinnC


    07Lapierre wrote: »
    Ah "white van man"! Gotcha! ;)

    I have a white van, and I cycle and I play Golf and the wife has an Audi which I sometimes drive..!
    I even sometimes have the Golf clubs and the bikes in the back of the white van at the same time..!!!


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    #1885
    ewc78
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 480 ✭✭ewc78


    Pinch Flat wrote: »
    you need to go and have your van sprayed in yellow hi vis paint IMMEDIATELY. :D

    That is someone else's fight not mine!
    No interest in being dragged into it thanks.


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    #1886
    07Lapierre
    Registered Users Posts: 8,222 ✭✭✭07Lapierre


    FinnC wrote: »
    I have a white van, and I cycle and I play Golf and the wife has an Audi which I sometimes drive..!
    I even sometimes have the Golf clubs and the bikes in the back of the white van at the same time..!!!

    I'm speechless!


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    #1887
    TaurenDruid
    Registered Users Posts: 4,038 ✭✭✭TaurenDruid


    AndrewJRenko wrote: »
    Anyway, back to dangerous drivers - I saw another of those 'exceedingly rare' late red-light-jumpers today...

    But ultimately nobody got hurt, eh?


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    #1888
    AndrewJRenko
    Registered Users Posts: 28,708 ✭✭✭✭AndrewJRenko


    TaurenDruid wrote: »
    But ultimately nobody got hurt, eh?

    Not this time, though two or three people are killed each week by motorists.


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    #1889
    DoraDelite
    Registered Users Posts: 308 ✭✭DoraDelite


    TaurenDruid wrote: »
    But ultimately nobody got hurt, eh?

    Except people do get hurt. Shrugging your shoulders and saying it's grand, nobody got hurt so poor driver behaviour is excused is deplorable.

    Poor driving increases the chances of tragic consequences when the vehicle you are driving weighs 1.5-40 tonnes. The responsibility of that is not taken seriously be a large cohort of drivers and I find that abhorrent. Selfish individuals that put their own time and convenience ahead of the lives of everyone else.

    Today's news made me sick to my stomach:
    https://www.breakingnews.ie/ireland/man-dies-following-collision-between-car-and-lorry-in-kildare-1007458.html
    https://www.breakingnews.ie/ireland/young-boy-in-critical-condition-following-collision-between-bike-and-jeep-1007436.html


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    #1890
    Thelonious Monk
    Registered Users Posts: 13,929 ✭✭✭✭Thelonious Monk


    DoraDelite wrote: »
    Except people do get hurt. Shrugging your shoulders and saying it's grand, nobody got hurt so poor driver behaviour is excused is deplorable.

    Poor driving increases the chances of tragic consequences when the vehicle you are driving weighs 1.5-40 tonnes. The responsibility of that is not taken seriously be a large cohort of drivers and I find that abhorrent. Selfish individuals that put their own time and convenience ahead of the lives of everyone else.

    Today's news made me sick to my stomach:
    https://www.breakingnews.ie/ireland/man-dies-following-collision-between-car-and-lorry-in-kildare-1007458.html
    https://www.breakingnews.ie/ireland/young-boy-in-critical-condition-following-collision-between-bike-and-jeep-1007436.html

    I saw these, horrible. There was also a cyclist killed in Limerick last night -

    https://www.thejournal.ie/limerick-rtc-5133576-Jun2020/

    bad day all round. Those comments are going to get toxic very quickly on the journal I bet.
    I had to cycle up to Ballymun yesterday hadn't been out on the bike in traffic like that in a while, but some of the driving is just atrocious, people passing within inches of me, buses too. I really hope more segregated infrastructure comes about from this PFG mullarkey.


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    #1891
    magicbastarder
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    that poor kid in carlow has unfortunately succumbed to his injuries overnight.


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