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Electric Picnic 2021 - Cancelled :( **No Ticket Sales / Requests **

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,642 ✭✭✭✭bodhrandude


    Sat outside the stadium enjoying a tin of beer and Christy playing the old classics, I even hear he has included the Moving On Song again. It was exciting hearing the build up and in between songs, missed it so much, that sound of excited chatter you hear at gigs which is quite different from sporting events. Junior Brother's set was incredibly quiet though from my house, you could hardly hear him.

    If you want to get into it, you got to get out of it. (Hawkwind 1982)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,539 ✭✭✭ghostdancer


    Well, I guess if you believe the headline, and not immediately recognise what a pile of horseshit it and the whole article is....


    But there's a lot of gullible (or willfully ignorant) people in this thread over the last few days who clearly don't have a clue about laws, regulations, and general logistics.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,129 ✭✭✭✭everlast75




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,903 ✭✭✭✭PTH2009


    Ah man your words are beautiful. I miss the sounds you described (the sound checking which you hear the guitars/basses been tuned/checked etc)

    Please god ill be in the UK next month for a gig and then we have full blown back in Ireland after that



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,501 ✭✭✭PabloAndRoy


    Clearly having a moan on the Internet should be restricted to people who do have a clue about such things. Maybe there could be a law for that. Can we do that? I don't know 'cos I don't have a clue about laws and things like that.



  • Registered Users Posts: 243 ✭✭Tago Mago


    Electric Picnic organisers make final plea to Government to let event go ahead

    Catherine Martin is said to be exploring all options to allow for holding of festival

    about 6 hours ago

    Cormac McQuinn


    The crowd at the Main Stage at Electric Picnic on the Sunday night of the 2018 festival. Photograph: Dave Meehan/The Irish Times








     

     

    The organisers of Electric Picnic have made a final plea to the Government for the music festival to be allowed to proceed this year.

    Festival Republic wrote to senior Government figures on Thursday asking for the festival to go ahead as a Government pilot event for people who are fully vaccinated against Covid-19.

    It comes as Minister for Culture Catherine Martin was said to be exploring all options to allow for the holding of Electric Picnic this year, including the possibility it could be designated as a pilot. However, planning regulations that require large outdoor concerts to have licences from local authorities could prove to be a major hurdle.

    Organisers had hoped the Stradbally festival could proceed for up to 70,000 attendees on the weekend of September 24th to 26th. However, Laois County Council refused the application for a licence earlier this month, citing HSE advice and the public health measures in place due to the Covid-19 pandemic.

    The council said on Wednesday there is no provision in law for it to revisit the rejected application. It also said that even if a new application is made “statutory timelines” do not allow for the processing of a new application in time for the dates originally proposed for the festival.

    Planning regulations include a requirement that the licence application must be submitted 13 weeks before the concert is due to go ahead.

    While Minister for Housing and Local Government Darragh O’Brien has the power to amend such regulations without Oireachtas approval, his department cast doubt on whether this would happen.

    A statement said the current regulations were the outcome of detailed consultations with stakeholder groups. “It would arguably be difficult to justify amending the regulations and to vary the current timeline provisions for the purpose of one specific event,” it said.


      

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    Committee meeting

    Ms Martin is to raise the issue of Electric Picnic at Friday’s Cabinet Covid sub-committee meeting on the roadmap for easing the remaining pandemic restrictions. She is expected to have support from Tánaiste Leo Varadkar, who is also pushing for the music festival to be allowed to proceed alongside the reopening of other businesses to people who are fully vaccinated.

    Ultimately, Attorney General Paul Gallagher’s input could be sought on proposals for how the event could go ahead.

    Taoiseach Micheál Martin, Mr Varadkar and Ms Martin were among those contacted by Festival Republic as part of its renewed appeal for Electric Picnic to go ahead as a pilot event.

    It is understood the organisers had proposed as far back as July 22nd that it would be held as a pilot event for vaccinated people.

    Previous Government pilot events for music and sport did not fall under the event licensing regime.

    The live music events in this regard were for much smaller crowds and fell under the 5,000-attendee threshold above which a licence must be secured from a council.

    Events like the All-Ireland hurling final in Croke Park – where there were 40,000 fans in attendance – did not need a local authority licence.



  • Posts: 0 ✭✭✭ Juelz Chubby Lapel


    No need for that!I have no clue in the laws or the regulations never mind the general logistics to throw on a 70k capacity festival …it’s just having a bit of hope and discussing on this thread any possible outcome.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,493 ✭✭✭The Davestator


    The same couple of people on this thread are still clearly very scared of getting back to normality and are fighting tooth and nail to explain to all of us idiots why it shouldn't go ahead

    This is very common these days and we should do our best to encourage these people and coax them back from under their beds.



  • Moderators, Education Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 10,686 Mod ✭✭✭✭melekalikimaka




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,138 ✭✭✭endainoz


    This is true to a point, I know myself I was a little bit apprehensive about going to the pubs again this year after the disaster at Christmas. It wouldn't bother me as much now, but I guess people will need time. Social anxiety will be an issue for people for a while yet.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,741 ✭✭✭Dr. Bre


    Social anxiety no issue fir me . Once your vaccinated it shouldn’t be



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,138 ✭✭✭endainoz


    LIVE: Decisions on live events and return to offices expected as Cabinet Covid committee meets https://jrnl.ie/5532220

    A live blog from the meeting today, specifically said EP would be "discussed" as will Laois CCs license decision.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,840 ✭✭✭Mucker46




  • Registered Users Posts: 399 ✭✭BigMo1


    Surely if it is to happen, an annoucement would have to come by Monday at the latest? Even that only gives them 24 days.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,741 ✭✭✭Dr. Bre


    Nile Rodgers will defo be on the line up



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  • Registered Users Posts: 218 ✭✭fish_fingers


    It's an interesting situation at the moment--there's a fine optics show playing out now. Who knows which cup the ball is under? With "senior" (in rank) TDs now "actively" calling for EP to go ahead; and random semi known nobody's also saying that it should too; as well as a member of the "ruling party" saying that he would see no problem in it for fully vaccinated people, is it already a fait accompli?

    Or is it all a media spin from the newspapers and television, a goat rodeo, seeing who jumps highest (driven of course, and proven already, by the content from this very topic on boards.ie 😉)?

    Or could the ball be really, really under the Laois Co. Council's cup...and game over already?

    There'll be egg on someone's face.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,840 ✭✭✭Mucker46


    While i think the chances of it happening are low they are growing, hoping my hopes wont be dashed again. Will be interesting if it goes ahead to see what if any effect the shortened preparation time will have. Happy for the big commercial areas to not be around. Keeping fingers crossed and expectations low.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,642 ✭✭✭✭bodhrandude


    Can't remember if this was Chic's second appearance at the Picnic (2014), I think they played 2009, I was at the Madness set, so missed them the first time.


    Post edited by bodhrandude on

    If you want to get into it, you got to get out of it. (Hawkwind 1982)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,417 ✭✭✭griffdaddy


    Should probably stick 48 cans in the fridge just in case



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,138 ✭✭✭endainoz


    My god it's a bit of a rollercoaster isn't it?! Well the second most senior TD is currently pushing for it. Can't help but think he's trying to save face after the other incident.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,493 ✭✭✭The Davestator




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,506 ✭✭✭Fatfrog


    Ah Lads, I know this wasn't the original date, but some picnics were late Aug.


    If today was EP Friday CAN YOU IMAGINE where you would be right now.. Can in hand 😪



  • Registered Users Posts: 2,098 ✭✭✭Poorside


    Even next weekend is looking like perfect Picnic weather, probably will be snowing from them onwards though



  • Registered Users Posts: 107 ✭✭desk tidy




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,597 ✭✭✭MrMusician18


    Right. It's not about being scared about a return to normality, it's about bringing a dose of realism to this thread. I couldn't care less if the picnic goes ahead or not, not my scene anyway but more power to those that it is.

    As it stands, there is no legal way for the picnic to proceed in September, under current planning law. None. Additionally, there are something like 24 days to go until the originally scheduled date and to my knowledge, no site work of significance has taken place in Stradbally. Those are the facts.

    Now maybe the Minister might change the planning legislation through an SI to allow this to go ahead, but that is highly unlikely. I mean really unlikely, since it would set a very challenging precedent for planners to deal with and planning is difficult enough at the best of times. Even if it did proceed, the logistics of preparing a festival site in three weeks and doing so in a profitable way would be next to impossible.

    This is just another of those silly season stories tbh. You'd be best preparing yourself for picnic 2022 at this point.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,529 ✭✭✭patch


    I'm always amused by people who tend to be devoid of craic who also insist that others take their realistic view of life.



  • Registered Users Posts: 218 ✭✭fish_fingers


    griffdaddy, find space in the freezer instead...



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,263 ✭✭✭sprucemoose


    in fairness to the other poster, its not about realism/optimism versus pessimism, its more about a flawed argument



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,817 ✭✭✭Darc19


    It won't be an issue this year as they will be able to get plenty of crew and equipment on site very quickly.

    Normally they'd be competing with many other events including sporting events and other large and small gigs for crew and equipment, but not this year.


    Same for artists - they'll have agreements and a line-up within days


    There was activity on the site yesterday. I suspect a lot of it is prep work on the ground just in case the all clear is given.



  • Registered Users Posts: 299 ✭✭HarryTheSpider


    I am at a stage now that I really don't know what to think. But, this is starting to sound good.

    And before anyone points it out..... Yes, this is not a confirmation of anything. Yes, there will be challenges to make it happen if given the green light. And Yes, there still could be a lot of reasons that it might not happen.

    But those of us who want to remain optimistic are only setting ourselves up for a fall if it does not happen.


    https://www.rte.ie/news/2021/0827/1243088-covid-restrictions/



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,529 ✭✭✭patch


    Those Healy-Raes never miss an opportunity.

    Radio Kerry: Hotelier says Killarney an ideal alternative location for Electric Picnic.

    https://www.radiokerry.ie/news/hotelier-says-killarney-an-ideal-alternative-location-for-electric-picnic-248641



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,642 ✭✭✭✭bodhrandude


    If you want to get into it, you got to get out of it. (Hawkwind 1982)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,597 ✭✭✭MrMusician18


    There isn't much craic in engaging in wishful thinking tbh.

    Maybe posters here enjoy building themselves up only to be disappointed in the end? It's not for me.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,529 ✭✭✭patch


    Respectfully, of course there is.

    It's what gets people through hard times. Like global pandemics.

    It's certainly kept me entertained and checking this thread every day.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,911 ✭✭✭Stillill42


    Not being a fan of either EP or naive optimists, it's not immediately apparent to me what the attraction of this thread is for you. And yet here you are.



  • Registered Users Posts: 107 ✭✭desk tidy




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,642 ✭✭✭✭bodhrandude


    On Off on Off On Off On Off Woo Hoo up Ya Bhoy Ya!!!!

    If you want to get into it, you got to get out of it. (Hawkwind 1982)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,129 ✭✭✭✭everlast75


    Did you enjoy telling kids in your class that there was no easter bunny?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,741 ✭✭✭Dr. Bre




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,597 ✭✭✭Ferris_Bueller


    Have to say I was in the camp of thinking "not a chance is it going ahead", but the fact that they seem to be talking about lifting restrictions altogether makes me think maybe they would give it the green light..

    I don't have tickets as I was unable to go to the original EP 2020 but could possibly swing one or two if it was going ahead!

    I hope for the sake of all the posters in here it does go ahead and you've a smashing weekend. It would be a special way to mark the end of all this crap the past 18 months. But won't get the hopes up just yet 😉

    How do ye all feel about it? Has the on/off nature taken away from the usual excitement or will the surprise of it going ahead add to it?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,911 ✭✭✭Stillill42


    It's been weird alright, EP being kicked around by every special interest group in the country. Depending on who you're listening to, it has come to stand for everything that's good/ bad in society. Still can't believe it's actually a runner but if it is? If it happens? I'll get in that paintball gate, shut the noise out and revel in the outpouring of joy that will happen when all the real music fans, the people that are completely drowned out in the furore gather in front of a stage, in front of real musicians and get to do music and connection and feeling and emotion and stuff again. It'll be amazing.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,642 ✭✭✭✭bodhrandude


    The stadium is working like the EP comedy tent tonight had Ardal O'Hanlon, Deirdre OKane and now Tommy Teirnan. 😂

    If you want to get into it, you got to get out of it. (Hawkwind 1982)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,642 ✭✭✭✭bodhrandude


    Might snap up a tickets for the Robocobra Quartet next Thursday at Roisin Dubh, described in the blurb as ' a cunning marriage of jazz, spoken word and punk ' - the Quietus. and ' Fugazi meets Mingus ' - Drowned in Sound. https://roisindubh.net/listings/robocobra-quartet-2021-09-02-200000 Anyone heard of them?

    If you want to get into it, you got to get out of it. (Hawkwind 1982)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,840 ✭✭✭Mucker46


    The no gigs since Feb 2020 will make this so special and if it goes ahead i will revel in it. Even though i would have less time to research the line up i think i would revel in any live music.



  • Registered Users Posts: 243 ✭✭Tago Mago


    Jennifer O’Connell: The scramble to save Electric Picnic is embarrassing

    Subscriber only

    Arts sector has been ignored by cowardly Government afraid to make tough decisions

    about 2 hours ago

    https://www.irishtimes.com/polopoly_fs/1.1316273.1362060999!/image/image.jpg_gen/derivatives/box_76/image.jpg There was an error displaying this embed.


    Jennifer O'Connell


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    Music fans at the Electric Picnic festival in 2017: It is clear that, as far as many in the Government are concerned, Irish culture begins and ends at Croke Park. Photograph: Niall Carson/PA








     

     

    Here’s your 2021 Electric Picnic checklist. One tent, one portable phone charger, multipack of baby wipes, one statutory instrument extending the Covid pass requirements to outdoor events, two ministerial orders designating the festival a pilot event and bypassing the mandatory 13-week notice period to Laois County Council, a consultation with the Attorney General, and a modicum of ambition by the Government.

    Or as a few wags on Twitter suggested, you could just have put the Laois senior hurling team on the main stage, called it a GAA event, and thrown the gates open to 40,000 people. Vaccines optional.

    GAA exceptionalism – visible again last Sunday as fans jammed the stands in Croke Park while the live events industry was left languishing at home with platitudes about how everyone “sees the urgency” of allowing the sector to restart – is nothing new. Cast your mind back to last summer and the insistence that the inter-county championships must go ahead to “lift the spirits of the nation”. Or the repeated inferences that breaches of guidelines and outbreaks linked to GAA celebrations were not proper breaches or outbreaks – not like the breaches or outbreaks caused by teenagers or the office workers filling Dublin car parks despite being told to work from home, or any of the other regular targets of National Public Health Emergency Team (Nphet) ire.

    It is now clear that, as far as many in Government are concerned, Irish culture begins and ends at Croke Park. As the summer winds to a close with no plan in place for the reopening of the arts and live events sector, it was inevitable that the Electric Picnic fiasco would offer a lightning rod for the frustrations of those who have been left without employment or a roadmap, not to mention the frustrations of those of us who prefer cavorting in a field to watching 30 adults chase a ball around one.


      

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    Nphet back seat

    But it was also interesting for what it revealed about the paralysis in the Government when it comes to making hard decisions. Sources have been briefing journalists about how the intention is for Nphet to take a back seat now that we’re entering a new phase of the pandemic, which would be all very well if the Government didn’t seem to have forgotten how to drive.

    It was inevitable the Electric Picnic fiasco would offer a lightning rod for the frustrations of those who have been left without employment or a roadmap

    The 11th-hour scramble to save the picnic – which was really an 11th-hour scramble to be seen to be making a last-ditch attempt at a final gasp to save it, ideally hoping to salvage a noble failure out of the shambles – was disingenuous and embarrassing. The Government blamed Laois County Council. Laois County Council blamed the Government. As Ministers prepared to meet on Friday to look at easing restrictions, the person with the power to amend the regulations without Oireachtas approval, Minister for Housing Darragh O’Brien, offered a non-committal “it would arguably be difficult to justify amending the regulations and to vary the current timeline provisions for the purpose of one specific event”. This, presumably, is the policymaker’s equivalent of “computer says no”.

    The truth is there was no real appetite in Government or Laois County Council for the event to go ahead. But nobody wanted to be responsible for tolling its death knell either and, for once, Nphet wasn’t willing to take this one for the team. Earlier in the week, chief medical officer Dr Tony Holohan said he would not have concerns about an outdoor event on that scale for the fully vaccinated. That should have been a cue to Government that its strategy of winding down the clock wasn’t going to work, and it better start looking at ways to make the festival happen, or coming up with good reasons why it couldn’t. But the Government is still scarred and risk-averse after the experience of last Christmas, and Laois County Council is understandably worried about the possibility of a local surge. Fair enough – this isn’t Garth Brooks 2.0. Every decision about reopening while the virus still rages has real consequences and requires careful deliberation.


    Passing the buck

    But is our government so out of practice at governing that it couldn’t foresee how the juxtaposition of the All-Ireland going ahead while the fate of Electric Picnic still hung in the balance would look? Or have our policymakers become so used to passing the buck to Holohan they’ve forgotten how to make decisions by themselves? Denied the opportunity to blame Nphet for this one, Tanáiste Leo Varadkar tellingly reached for the next best thing – he said he’d ask the Attorney General.

    Have our policymakers become so used to passing the buck to Holohan they’ve forgotten how to make decisions by themselves?

    Meanwhile, the one Minister who appears genuinely invested in the survival of arts and live entertainment, Minister for Arts Catherine Martin, was excluded from key meetings about easing restrictions. On Thursday, she told Government figures that waiting for vaccination levels among the over-16s to reach 90 per cent, as Nphet has advised, would lead to an unacceptable delay to the reopening of the sector. The optics of her exclusion confirmed what those radio ads have been saying all week: the sector has been forgotten – and so have all the jobs, careers, incomes, livelihoods and individuals’ sense of purpose and mental wellbeing wrapped up in it. The Government is refusing to grasp the most basic facts about how the events industry operates. You can’t pull a large-scale music festival or even a modest play in a local theatre out of your hat in six months, let alone in less than a month. In this case, of course, that’s probably what Ministers were banking on.

    Whether or not you were invested in this particular festival – the future of which was still unclear at the time of writing – the fiasco revealed the Government might want to be seen to have wrested back control from Nphet, but many would really still prefer someone else was making the tough decisions.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,642 ✭✭✭✭bodhrandude


    If this happens we'll be running around in a panic airing our tents, I'll probably have to take up jogging to get myself festival fit again. 😁

    If you want to get into it, you got to get out of it. (Hawkwind 1982)



  • Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 15,152 Mod ✭✭✭✭Furious-Red


    I'm lucky we've booked pink moon so no panic but yea I feel ill be struggling with the walking if it goes ahead 😂



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,529 ✭✭✭patch


    We booked it too but I wonder if they have already cancelled the camping for this year? Hopefully not...



  • Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 15,152 Mod ✭✭✭✭Furious-Red


    I'm guessing not since PM haven't released anything to say they've cancelled? Id say if it gets cancelled/postponed again they will do the roll over again



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,642 ✭✭✭✭bodhrandude


    Snerp Blunket and the Toodles from Outer space.

    If you want to get into it, you got to get out of it. (Hawkwind 1982)



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