Covid-19 Kerry

Panda Killa

An Ciarraioch wrote: »

Still, if they were all keeping their distance, can't see it having much more effect than the average walking area?

They weren't, if you red thru the weeks posts

kev_Makaveli

107 new cases country wide . I would expect to see 0 for Kerry again .

An Ciarraioch

Two cases today.

phormium

kn wrote: »

There is a really good argument to put a cordon on the M50 for travel out.

I said that on another forum couple of weeks ago and lets just say I am no longer a member there, it's not a popular opinion!

TigerTim

Was on the "Skinny mile" last evening & saw a group of about 10 young lads gathered where Connolly park joins the "Skinny Mile". Social distancing had been forgotten.:(

T.

Quackster

TigerTim wrote: »

Was on the "Skinny mile" last evening & saw a group of about 10 young lads gathered where Connolly park joins the "Skinny Mile". Social distancing had been forgotten.:(

T.

Teenagers will be teenagers. Male brains are not fully-developed until we're in our mid 20s and it's a known fact that immature males cannot properly process risk. Just look at the road collision stats.

The longer this drags on, the more complacency/apathy/boredom/frustration will influence people's behaviours and the less effective these measures become. That is absolutely inevitable.

Ciarrai76

Teens are fed up, they don't want to sit in anymore, they need social interaction. I can't imagine how I would have stayed away from my friends at that age, I would have cracked up! It would be nice if they could see each other and practice social distancing, but they don't really see things the same way we all do.

kn

Ciarrai76 wrote: »

Teens are fed up, they don't want to sit in anymore, they need social interaction. I can't imagine how I would have stayed away from my friends at that age, I would have cracked up! It would be nice if they could see each other and practice social distancing, but they don't really see things the same way we all do.

But in saying that in our teenage years we didn't have smartphones with all the apps under the sun as well as zoom etc. There is really just not the same level of excuse.

Ciarrai76

kn wrote: »

But in saying that in our teenage years we didn't have smartphones with all the apps under the sun as well as zoom etc. There is really just not the same level of excuse.

That’s true!

BPKS

TigerTim wrote: »

Was on the "Skinny mile" last evening & saw a group of about 10 young lads gathered where Connolly park joins the "Skinny Mile". Social distancing had been forgotten.:(

T.

Check the Tralee thread.

There is a poster on that thread that rings the Gardaí to alert them to breaches of Social Distancing (depending on who the "perpetrator" is of course:rolleyes:).

Panda Killa

10 deaths...159 new cases... increase of over 50 new cases on yesterday.

kn

Panda Killa wrote: »

10 deaths...159 new cases... increase of over 50 new cases on yesterday.

Any one day's numbers are not significant as there are still testing delays. They are still sending samples to Germany so when a batch of those come back it probably leads to a daily spike. Looking at it weekly would probably provide a better picture.

An Ciarraioch

kn wrote: »

Any one day's numbers are not significant as there are still testing delays. They are still sending samples to Germany so when a batch of those come back it probably leads to a daily spike. Looking at it weekly would probably provide a better picture.

Indeed - for Kerry, the weekly trend has gone from 20>13>4. Back to zero cases today.

An Ciarraioch

Taking the national recovery figure of 84%, applying that to Kerry, and adding our four known deaths, suggests that there are currently 45 active cases in the county.

Panda Killa

kn wrote: »

Any one day's numbers are not significant as there are still testing delays. They are still sending samples to Germany so when a batch of those come back it probably leads to a daily spike. Looking at it weekly would probably provide a better picture.

That's actually my point....the results for the bank holiday weekend will start hitting now....and if we see national increases again tomorrow..and the day after.. we'll know why

An Ciarraioch

Although when you manually go through each county's updated dashboard tally, seems there were only 55 new cases today:

https://twitter.com/higginsdavidw/status/1260634391304437761

amdaley28

Big debate in the Dail a while ago concerning the Scellig Star Hotel in Caherciveen & the Direct Provision system in general.
Catherine Murphy, Brid Smith, both Healy-Raes & Mick Barry laid into Minister for Justice Flanagan & Minister of State David Stanton about what happened in Caherciveen.

It appears that a member of the public came back from Bergamo in Italy & tested positive for Covid 19. He & his friends were staying in the Travelodge in Swords along with about 70 Asylum seekers.
The Irish citizen & his party were tested & put into self isolation but the Asylum seekers staying in the same Travelodge were not tested or put into isolation.

Some of these Asylum seekers were among the group from the Travelodge in Swords & two other Dublin centres sent to The Scellig Star in Caherciveen.
Minister Flanagan said that the Scellig Star was suitable for 150 guests even though it has only 56 bedrooms. He denied that the Dept of Justice knew of the Covid 19 cases in Swords or that they were advised by the HSE that there were cases in Swords. Both he & Minister of State David Stanton provided answers that were far from satisfactory & when asked a direct question Stanton ducked the question & went on to describe how the Direct Provision System works.
Its clear that this government has passed the care of those in the Direct Provision System to private companies who have no experience or medical expertise in these matters.

I must give credit TD's Murphy, Smith, Barry & both Healy-Raes for finally asking the questions that should have been asked long ago even though the answers were far from that required.

The residents in the Scellig Star are free to go as they please. The Exit doors are marked as not for exit & when the residents attempt to leave they are told that action may be taken against them. The residents think that this means they will be deported.

Both Healy-Raes didn't hold back in what they said & I have to give them credit for that.
At long last TD's from Kerry finally woke up.

Rows Grower

amdaley28 wrote: »

Big debate in the Dail a while ago concerning the Scellig Star Hotel in Caherciveen & the Direct Provision system in general.
Catherine Murphy, Brid Smith, both Healy-Raes & Mick Barry laid into Minister for Justice Flanagan & Minister of State David Stanton about what happened in Caherciveen.

It appears that a member of the public came back from Bergamo in Italy & tested positive for Covid 19. He & his friends were staying in the Travelodge in Swords along with about 70 Asylum seekers.
The Irish citizen & his party were tested & put into self isolation but the Asylum seekers staying in the same Travelodge were not tested or put into isolation.

Some of these Asylum seekers were among the group from the Travelodge in Swords & two other Dublin centres sent to The Scellig Star in Caherciveen.
Minister Flanagan said that the Scellig Star was suitable for 150 guests even though it has only 56 bedrooms. He denied that the Dept of Justice knew of the Covid 19 cases in Swords or that they were advised by the HSE that there were cases in Swords. Both he & Minister of State David Stanton provided answers that were far from satisfactory & when asked a direct question Stanton ducked the question & went on to describe how the Direct Provision System works.
Its clear that this government has passed the care of those in the Direct Provision System to private companies who have no experience or medical expertise in these matters.

I must give credit TD's Murphy, Smith, Barry & both Healy-Raes for finally asking the questions that should have been asked long ago even though the answers were far from that required.

The residents in the Scellig Star are free to go as they please. The Exit doors are marked as not for exit & when the residents attempt to leave they are told that action may be taken against them. The residents think that this means they will be deported.

Both Healy-Raes didn't hold back in what they said & I have to give them credit for that.
At long last TD's from Kerry finally woke up.

Was Mr. Brendan Griffin our Minister of State present?

amdaley28

Rows Grower wrote: »

Was Mr. Brendan Griffin our Minister of State present?

Didn't see him & if he was there he kept his mouth shut as usual
There wasn't to many there as per social distancing.

amdaley28

Interesting read in the Irish Examiner.
Shows how little we know about what's going on.
Other interesting links as well.

https://www.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews/ireland/michael-healy-rae-had-shareholding-in-skellig-hotel-experience-999407.html?fbclid=IwAR108GPrd1_I4fc1H_EKsm6AuGrKo8XmJuvFel_9jACJHDmzsfxQZTALCqs

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/crime-and-law/locals-take-legal-action-to-close-direct-provision-centre-in-cahersiveen-1.4252727?fbclid=IwAR2BfBJN1TvTYOcaWF9X_fNeVsAkUc06utm76_m96IGZYjDuClPeNz2C1q8

https://www.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews/views/analysis/michael-clifford-tourism-magnet-now-a-hotbed-of-controversy-999409.html?fbclid=IwAR0a5zlgFHIE_29rS1zFHt5_1UMDclwqsuHoQmlk_u7TNbuYDoZ0t9sSsho

https://www.radiokerry.ie/kerry-tds-outline-concerns-operator-caherciveen-direct-provision-centre/?fbclid=IwAR3c20NqZEY0buhwxzbfTnCtJ-ByoG0KQ4WUqHFXk8zO9qVacWtqg1QeKE8

Panda Killa

I think everyone knew Healy Rae had an interest in it being sold.
The only thing that is news there is the injunction going ahead in tralee court...and it's not unexpected really.

Panda Killa

Just in case anyone was thinking we're home & dry
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/05/13/world/coronavirus-world-news-updates.html#click=https://t.co/6QAfziEto6

amdaley28

Panda Killa wrote: »

I think everyone knew Healy Rae had an interest in it being sold.
The only thing that is news there is the injunction going ahead in tralee court...and it's not unexpected really.

They probably do but just because you or I know doesn't mean there aren't people out there who might not know the information.
I would ask that anyone who has information to put it up here as it may help others.
The more people are informed the better it is for everyone.
Stay safe.

Quackster

amdaley28 wrote: »

Interesting read in the Irish Examiner.
Shows how little we know about what's going on.
Other interesting links as well.

https://www.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews/ireland/michael-healy-rae-had-shareholding-in-skellig-hotel-experience-999407.html?fbclid=IwAR108GPrd1_I4fc1H_EKsm6AuGrKo8XmJuvFel_9jACJHDmzsfxQZTALCqs

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/crime-and-law/locals-take-legal-action-to-close-direct-provision-centre-in-cahersiveen-1.4252727?fbclid=IwAR2BfBJN1TvTYOcaWF9X_fNeVsAkUc06utm76_m96IGZYjDuClPeNz2C1q8

https://www.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews/views/analysis/michael-clifford-tourism-magnet-now-a-hotbed-of-controversy-999409.html?fbclid=IwAR0a5zlgFHIE_29rS1zFHt5_1UMDclwqsuHoQmlk_u7TNbuYDoZ0t9sSsho

https://www.radiokerry.ie/kerry-tds-outline-concerns-operator-caherciveen-direct-provision-centre/?fbclid=IwAR3c20NqZEY0buhwxzbfTnCtJ-ByoG0KQ4WUqHFXk8zO9qVacWtqg1QeKE8

So Micheal Healy-Rae is a two-faced liar. Nothing new there then!

newman10

Quackster wrote: »

So Micheal Healy-Rae is a two-faced liar. Nothing new there then!

Any different to Varadker and Harris, seems pretty common theme amongst all politicians
All of a sudden Cahirciveen is in the news because of Healy-Rae, not what happened there and the blatant disreguard to the people by the HSE, DoJ and Flannagan

I did not vote for HR

Panda Killa

amdaley28 wrote: »

They probably do but just because you or I know doesn't mean there aren't people out there who might not know the information.
I would ask that anyone who has information to put it up here as it may help others.
The more people are informed the better it is for everyone.
Stay safe.

Have you not been on boards for long? Anyone that's anyway familiar with it should know there are dedicated threads in AH & Current Affairs on the Healy Rae's
Mods don't look kindly to people posting the same things across several threads ..cardable offence.
Just type Healy Rae into your search bar and it takes you to the threads

Ciarrai76

The thread is going off-topic & a bit more about politics now than what it was set up for. Keep to the topic please. MOD

amdaley28

Panda Killa wrote: »

Have you not been on boards for long? Anyone that's anyway familiar with it should know there are dedicated threads in AH & Current Affairs on the Healy Rae's
Mods don't look kindly to people posting the same things across several threads ..cardable offence.
Just type Healy Rae into your search bar and it takes you to the threads

All my references are to the Caherciveen / Skellig Star situation.
The fact that any politician might get a mention is in relation to the subject matter & nothing more.
I have no political affiliations to any political view or party.

An Ciarraioch

Sixth day out of eight without a new case.

Rows Grower

An Ciarraioch wrote: »

Sixth day out of eight without a new case.

An amazing turn around in all fairness, well done everyone.

amdaley28

An Ciarraioch wrote: »

Sixth day out of eight without a new case.

Fantastic. Long may it continue.

lottpaul

The diocese of Kerry has announced that churches can reopen for private worship from May 20th, provided each parish can satisfy itself that certain conditions can be met, including daily cleaning of the church.

Quote from the press statement - “Walk around, stand and pray, don’t sit down and touch nothing.”

Typically most visitors to churches would be elderly and perhaps vulnerable; I wonder how numbers can be regulated in larger parishes. Cleaning the surfaces in each church on a daily basis would be a challenge too - I know that in many churches people often have a favourite statue that they touch, candles are lit etc so almost every surface, seat, statue and so on would need to be cleaned.
As Masses are not meant to be celebrated in public will they close churches when priests are saying Mass for webcam broadcasts?

I appreciate the thought and motivation behind it but it may be perhaps too soon.

An Ciarraioch

Hopefully UHK wasn't the mysterious "southern" hospital ?

An Ciarraioch

lottpaul wrote: »

The diocese of Kerry has announced that churches can reopen for private worship from May 20th, provided each parish can satisfy itself that certain conditions can be met, including daily cleaning of the church.

Quote from the press statement - “Walk around, stand and pray, don’t sit down and touch nothing.”

Typically most visitors to churches would be elderly and perhaps vulnerable; I wonder how numbers can be regulated in larger parishes. Cleaning the surfaces in each church on a daily basis would be a challenge too - I know that in many churches people often have a favourite statue that they touch, candles are lit etc so almost every surface, seat, statue and so on would need to be cleaned.
As Masses are not meant to be celebrated in public will they close churches when priests are saying Mass for webcam broadcasts?

I appreciate the thought and motivation behind it but it may be perhaps too soon.

Presumably just means lighting candles, saying brief prayers, etc - so basically people looking in while passing, and swiftly moving on again. Also seems the statement advises people not to sit down or touch anything in the church:

https://www.dioceseofkerry.ie/2020/05/opening-of-churches-for-personal-prayer/

amdaley28

I had to take a cat to the vet in Killorglan this morning for a procedure which took about an hour.
While I was waiting I went to a supermarket for diesel & a coffee.
I wore gloves & a mask.

While I was sitting in the car drinking the coffee I couldn't believe what I was actually seeing.
In about 45 minutes sitting there I saw only one person wearing a mask or gloves, just one :mad:
Even the petrol attendant in his hut didn't have any protection.
The place was very busy.
If this thing really hits Kerry when the lockdown restrictions are lifted the place will be destroyed.

Panda Killa

amdaley28 wrote: »

I had to take a cat to the vet in Killorglan this morning for a procedure which took about an hour.
While I was waiting I went to a supermarket for diesel & a coffee.
I wore gloves & a mask.

While I was sitting in the car drinking the coffee I couldn't believe what I was actually seeing.
In about 45 minutes sitting there I saw only one person wearing a mask or gloves, just one :mad:
Even the petrol attendant in his hut didn't have any protection.
The place was very busy.
If this thing really hits Kerry when the lockdown restrictions are lifted the place will be destroyed.

Wearing gloves will be discouraged in most shops now I would think ..it spreads germs.
Mask's....if you're infected..wear a mask...it prevents you spreading the virus
But to someone who is healthy ...the chances of it helping are negligible...and again.... people don't know how to use a mask...once you touch it..you bin it... I saw 1 person on town having a cigarette and chatting away to someone..and then pops the mask back up afterwards... absolutely useless then.

Podge201

What is the state of play of the Chinese virus in caherciveen?

An Ciarraioch

The asylum seekers are essentially locked in the hotel until 14 days have expired after the last positive case, and that'll be the 20th.

Ciarrai76

Its not advised to wear gloves anymore, they do more harm than good. People using them in the wrong way, touching things, not taking them off properly, loads being dumped. The advise now is to just sanitise, and wash hands regularly. I have stopped wearing gloves, I don't see half the amount of people wearing them anymore.

The masks are now being 'advised' for over 13's when out shopping or on public transport, but you don't have to wear them. I don't know if I will wear one to be honest. maybe I would if I had to go on a train, bus, plane, but otherwise I don't think I will.

Igotadose

Ciarrai76 wrote: »

Its not advised to wear gloves anymore, they do more harm than good. People using them in the wrong way, touching things, not taking them off properly, loads being dumped. The advise now is to just sanitise, and wash hands regularly. I have stopped wearing gloves, I don't see half the amount of people wearing them anymore.

The masks are now being 'advised' for over 13's when out shopping or on public transport, but you don't have to wear them. I don't know if I will wear one to be honest. maybe I would if I had to go on a train, bus, plane, but otherwise I don't think I will.

Been wearing one for 6 weeks whenever out shopping. Herself sewed them, they're comfortable enough. They'll protect others, I'm under no illusion they're doing anything for me. Seems pretty obvious that when SE asia countries get one of these pandemics they put on their masks and the spread is reduced. No reason not to wear one.

Panda Killa

Asian's have been wearing masks since the 50's..
Air pollution.. protection from exhaust fumes, keep faces warm, fashion...
it's only in recent times that it's being used as a barrier to spread infection...in a city like Tokyo, with over 35million people...it makes sense to wear a mask virtually all of the time when outside.
I would say, in enclosed work spaces.. assembly lines...yes.. masks are a definite..for peace of mind when shopping in Dunnes or Tesco..you could.
But normal walking around the streets, popping in here and there...no advantage to wearing them

Rows Grower

The COVID ward in CUH was disbanded today, no longer needed.

It's not Kerry but it's positive news.

Igotadose

Panda Killa wrote: »

But normal walking around the streets, popping in here and there...no advantage to wearing them

Well, if I'm asymptomatic with Covid-19 (unlikely living in West Kerry), I'd spread less. That's advantage enough for me, I have many older, 'high-risk' friends and contacts.

Panda Killa

Igotadose wrote: »

Well, if I'm asymptomatic with Covid-19 (unlikely living in West Kerry), I'd spread less. That's advantage enough for me, I have many older, 'high-risk' friends and contacts.

Ah there's no right or wrong, as I said...it's more to do with personal choice...if you feel better for doing it, then of course you should.
If I was on a bus..or train..I'd wear a mask... but otherwise I can't see myself wearing one

wonga77

Ciarrai76 wrote: »

Its not advised to wear gloves anymore, they do more harm than good. People using them in the wrong way, touching things, not taking them off properly, loads being dumped. The advise now is to just sanitise, and wash hands regularly. I have stopped wearing gloves, I don't see half the amount of people wearing them anymore.

The masks are now being 'advised' for over 13's when out shopping or on public transport, but you don't have to wear them. I don't know if I will wear one to be honest. maybe I would if I had to go on a train, bus, plane, but otherwise I don't think I will.

Ive been seeing this for weeks, people going into shops, handling bits and pieces, money and so on, going out to the car with their shopping, maybe opening the boot, put the trolley or basket back etc, all while wearing the same gloves.
Gloves are only effective if you are changing them every few minutes and that's not feasible. Much better to just have good hand hygiene and use the disinfectent every now and then.
The amount of gloves you see thrown in the street sickens my sh1t too

Quackster

wonga77 wrote: »

Ive been seeing this for weeks, people going into shops, handling bits and pieces, money and so on, going out to the car with their shopping, maybe opening the boot, put the trolley or basket back etc, all while wearing the same gloves.
Gloves are only effective if you are changing them every few minutes and that's not feasible. Much better to just have good hand hygiene and use the disinfectent every now and then.
The amount of gloves you see thrown in the street sickens my sh1t too

Gloves only make sense if you're dealing with substances that aggravate or penetrate the skin. This virus is of no risk to the hands so there is absolutely no reason to wear gloves to protect against it.

Contaminated gloved hands can transfer the virus to the face and other substances exactly the same as ungloved contaminated hands can. And as you say, it's much easier to decontaminate ungloved hands than to be constantly changing gloves.

An Ciarraioch

Perhaps unsurprisingly, given the national trend, back to no local cases today.

An Ciarraioch

And we remain on 307 after today's daily figures, so 2 cases overall for the week beginning last Wednesday.

An Ciarraioch

A grand total of 7 cases over the last fortnight, so if most instances of covid recover after 14 days, there must be very few active cases currently in Kerry. As of last night, there were 4 confirmed Covid-19 patients in UHK, and 1 in the ICU.

amdaley28

One case today.
At 308 now.