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    #1892
    hotmail.com
    Registered Users Posts: 13,156 ✭✭✭✭hotmail.com


    Leroy42 wrote: »
    Doesn't make them bad people? They are effectively saying that it serves people right for not doing as god wants them to.

    Of course, the next question to them should be what needs to change, and I'd put good money on them being of the view that everyone else has to change to their way rather than them changing.

    No it doesn't make them bad people. They will be like anyone else if you met them in person, friendly and polite.

    They just happen to hold strong religious beliefs, similar to lots of Catholics in Ireland. Those that voted no in the recent referendums because of religious reasons weren't bad people. You probably know some of them.


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    #1893
    Blueshoe
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,964 ✭✭✭Blueshoe


    extra gravy wrote: »
    Has there ever been a positive news story to print? We can see the press conferences and how he behaves for ourselves, we're not dumb Americans that can be brainwashed by the media.

    Do you want stories about the president rescuing a cat out of a tree or real life stories about booming economy and jobs. Record stock market returns for investors and regular people's pension funds.

    What is important to you


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    #1894
    walshb
    Registered Users Posts: 55,083 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    hotmail.com wrote: »
    Obama bombed 9 Muslim countries. Was that wrong?

    Get real..

    Context. Nuance. Detail...Reasons.

    Trump is a fooking nut....end of story...

    He has no morals, character, decency, empathy, humanity...and anything else you can come up with. And he is extremely immature and rash. Complete outlier! And


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    #1895
    Blueshoe
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,964 ✭✭✭Blueshoe


    walshb wrote: »
    Get real..

    Context. Nuance. Detail...Reasons.

    Trump is a fooking nut....end of story...

    He has no morals, character, decency, empathy, humanity...and anything else you can come up with. And he is extremely immature and rash. Complete outlier! And

    Yet he was voted president and is still odds on for re election. It's almost as if there are millions and millions of people who disagree with you.

    "Get real"


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    #1896
    hotmail.com
    Registered Users Posts: 13,156 ✭✭✭✭hotmail.com


    walshb wrote: »
    Get real..

    Context. Nuance. Detail...Reasons.

    Trump is a fooking nut....end of story...

    He has no morals, character, decency, empathy, humanity...and anything else you can come up with. And he is extremely immature and rash. Complete outlier! And

    But the dumbness to suggest that previous US presidents had integrity when we know how often they bomb and kill just astounds me every time.


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    #1897
    hetuzozaho
    Registered Users Posts: 2,840 ✭✭✭hetuzozaho


    Update on essential services from the president

    https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1261470041221902338

    The video is how I imagine it would look if you could walk around trumps mind :)

    What a following he has!!


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    #1898
    Blueshoe
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    hetuzozaho wrote: »
    Update on essential services from the president

    https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1261470041221902338

    The video is how I imagine it would look if you could walk around trumps mind :)

    What a following he has!!

    Why go there and video if not to get a reaction. Clicks and revenue. That's what it's about.

    Various left wing outlets reporting it as the man was intimidated and harassed by trump supporters. Lol. He walked around through the crowd sticking camera in people's faces. His reporting is anti Trump and he walked through Trump supporters. Stop the lights


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    #1899
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    Blueshoe wrote: »
    Where are all of the stories about Trump pulling troops from the middle East and leaving the Kurds to fend for themselves gone?
    Gender neutral bathrooms ?
    Far right extremists?
    Muslim extremists?
    Refugee crisis?
    Climate crisis?

    All gone. Don't exist or matter any more. Coronavirus and Trump's handling of it is 24/7 . Election coverage next.
    Clicks and revenue. Reporting the news comes second.

    The Coronavirus has control on the news cycle because it's a substantial ongoing news event. Articles and news items on it are not limited to Trump and primarily our news items focus on the European response and more specifically Ireland. Not sure why you'd consider this to be surprising.


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    #1900
    Leroy42
    Registered Users Posts: 15,552 ✭✭✭✭Leroy42


    Blueshoe wrote: »
    Why go there and video if not to get a reaction. Clicks and revenue. That's what it's about

    Any luck with those stories you think should be covered?

    The journalist went there to see what was going on. The protesters could have remained civil and explained their grievances with the lockdown.

    You seem to be suggesting that in the one hand journalists should leave them alone, and on the other that the media is failing to cover their side properly.


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    #1901
    Blueshoe
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,964 ✭✭✭Blueshoe


    Leroy42 wrote: »
    Any luck with those stories you think should be covered?

    The journalist went there to see what was going on. The protesters could have remained civil and explained their grievances with the lockdown.

    You seem to be suggesting that in the one hand journalists should leave them alone, and on the other that the media is failing to cover their side properly.

    Have a look into that particular reporters past work and then decide why he got that reaction. He isn't just some random happy go lucky reporter who just found himself at a Trump protest. Went for a reaction. Recorded it. Got the clicks and made a few USD. Name of the game
    Also it's a protest. People generally aren't civil during protests. You know this


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    #1902
    Billy Mays
    Registered Users Posts: 3,207 ✭✭✭Billy Mays


    hetuzozaho wrote: »
    Update on essential services from the president

    https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1261470041221902338

    The video is how I imagine it would look if you could walk around trumps mind :)

    What a following he has!!
    That guy is just a local reporter on Long Island. Doesn't work for CNN, MSNBC or any of the other major networks yet still gets called a traitor by the cultists.

    Pretty deplorable tbh


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    #1903
    hetuzozaho
    Registered Users Posts: 2,840 ✭✭✭hetuzozaho


    Blueshoe wrote: »
    Why go there and video if not to get a reaction. Clicks and revenue. That's what it's about.

    Yep clicks equal revenue. Google Ads etc. It's interesting stuff. Maybe off topic for this thread though.


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    #1904
    walshb
    Registered Users Posts: 55,083 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    Blueshoe wrote: »
    Yet he was voted president and is still odds on for re election. It's almost as if there are millions and millions of people who disagree with you.

    "Get real"

    Yes. I know. America is full of basket cases...we know this..


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    #1905
    extra gravy
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    Blueshoe wrote: »
    Do you want stories about the president rescuing a cat out of a tree or real life stories about booming economy and jobs. Record stock market returns for investors and regular people's pension funds.

    What is important to you

    He took office when the economy was continuing its recovery and not in the beat up state like he claims. There's nothing impressive about anything he has done. You mention regular people...like farmers that are selling fewer goods to China due to his trade war? The major reasons for the stock market returns were due to tax cuts (which contributed to the budget deficit) and the Federal reserve keeping interest rates low. You can counter the stock market "success" with the unprecedented federal debt, trade disputes, trade deficit etc.

    He'd leave the cat in the tree btw, he has zero empathy.


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    #1906
    Blueshoe
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    hetuzozaho wrote: »
    Yep clicks equal revenue. Google Ads etc. It's interesting stuff. Maybe off topic for this thread though.

    Google the video. See how many news networks have ran with it. Dozens. He made his money. Anything that's anti Trump = easy money. Click click click.


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    #1907
    Leroy42
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    hetuzozaho wrote: »
    Yep clicks equal revenue. Google Ads etc. It's interesting stuff. Maybe off topic for this thread though.

    So they must work for free or something?

    They acted as they did, he didn’t make them. That he got what he wanted is their fault not his.

    He recorded them, there is no evidence that he goaded them or misrepresented them.


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    #1908
    Blueshoe
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    Leroy42 wrote: »
    So they must work for free or something?

    They acted as they did, he didn’t make them. That he got what he wanted is their fault not his.

    He recorded them, there is no evidence that he goaded them or misrepresented them.

    Yet they all knew who he was. Without asking any questions they all knew. He went there hoping for a reaction to make himself some USD. He got it. Easy money. Anti Trump


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    #1909
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    Blueshoe wrote: »
    Have a look into that particular reporters past work and then decide why he got that reaction. He isn't just some random happy go lucky reporter who just found himself at a Trump protest. Went for a reaction. Recorded it. Got the clicks and made a few USD. Name of the game
    Also it's a protest. People generally aren't civil during protests. You know this

    I've been to loads of protests over the years, people generally are civil and definitely wouldn't harass a journalist like that. They would take advantage of the platform to get their message across by explaining their perspective.


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    #1910
    hetuzozaho
    Registered Users Posts: 2,840 ✭✭✭hetuzozaho


    Blueshoe wrote: »
    Google the video. See how many news networks have ran with it. Dozens. He made his money. Anything that's anti Trump = easy money. Click click click.

    I'm good thanks


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    #1911
    hetuzozaho
    Registered Users Posts: 2,840 ✭✭✭hetuzozaho


    Leroy42 wrote: »
    So they must work for free or something?

    They acted as they did, he didn’t make them. That he got what he wanted is their fault not his.

    He recorded them, there is no evidence that he goaded them or misrepresented them.

    Maybe replying to wrong poster?


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    #1912
    Harry Palmr
    Closed Accounts Posts: 40,061 ✭✭✭✭Harry Palmr


    The average Trump MAGA fan, like the typical brexiteer is programmed to react in one of two ways in a given moment -

    a rant about MAGA/GBD
    or
    to question why the MSM are lying to them and trying to twist their message.


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    #1913
    hetuzozaho
    Registered Users Posts: 2,840 ✭✭✭hetuzozaho


    Deleted User wrote: »
    I've been to loads of protests over the years, people generally are civil and definitely wouldn't harass a journalist like that. They would take advantage of the platform to get their message across by explaining their perspective.

    When it comes to Trump and his buddies it's always someone else's fault.

    Must be a great way to live. No responsibility.


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    #1914
    hotmail.com
    Registered Users Posts: 13,156 ✭✭✭✭hotmail.com


    Harry Palmr wrote: »
    The average Trump MAGA fan, like the typical brexiteer is programmed to react in one of two ways in a given moment -

    a rant about MAGA/GBD
    or
    to question why the MSM are lying to them and trying to twist their message.

    I think people are tired now of hearing Brexit and Trump comparison.

    Anti European feeling runs long and deep in Britain.

    It's like some throwaway comment now to make these comparisons with no actual understanding of history.


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    #1915
    Leroy42
    Registered Users Posts: 15,552 ✭✭✭✭Leroy42


    Blueshoe wrote: »
    Yet they all knew who he was. Without asking any questions they all knew. He went there hoping for a reaction to make himself some USD. He got it. Easy money. Anti Trump

    So there was a story there and he told it. That is what journalists do.

    But has the protestors acted in a civil way and not treated a fellow American as the enemy he would have had no story.

    So it is entirely their fault for behaving like they did. Especially given that they are the ones protesting against their own government, and Trump, it seems a bit rich to class others as the enemy.

    As for 'gotcha' questions, and normal person comes prepared with facts and figures to counter them. Trump has little grasp of the facts and when pushed to explain something he said earlier clashes out at the questioner as he has no answer since he made it up.

    So the fault for that lies entirely with him.

    How anyone can think Trump is the man to lead a country when he can't even handle the press is beyond me.


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    #1916
    joe40
    Registered Users Posts: 3,811 ✭✭✭joe40


    hetuzozaho wrote: »
    Update on essential services from the president

    https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1261470041221902338

    The video is how I imagine it would look if you could walk around trumps mind :)

    What a following he has!!

    What is wrong with this large section of the American population. Virtually every country in the world had lockdowns and restrictions.
    Only dumb Americans out protesting in large numbers.


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    #1917
    Blueshoe
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,964 ✭✭✭Blueshoe


    joe40 wrote: »
    What is wrong with this large section of the American population. Virtually every country in the world had lockdowns and restrictions.
    Only dumb Americans out protesting in large numbers.

    Not true. Protests throughout many European countries. Rte even showed some of the German ones


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    #1918
    joe40
    Registered Users Posts: 3,811 ✭✭✭joe40


    Blueshoe wrote: »
    Not true. Protests throughout many European countries. Rte even showed some of the German ones

    Nowhere near the same extent. They weren't out with guns shutting down state legislature


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    #1919
    Blueshoe
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,964 ✭✭✭Blueshoe


    joe40 wrote: »
    Nowhere near the same extent. They weren't out with guns shutting down state legislature

    So if only a few people turned up it's not a problem. Not to the same "extent"
    Over 300 million people in the country.

    How many people have to turn up before you think it's extensive. 15? 5000? 6 million?

    Guns are legal. No problems there.
    Umbrellas are legal in Ireland people can bring them to protests here if they wish.


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    #1920
    joe40
    Registered Users Posts: 3,811 ✭✭✭joe40


    Blueshoe wrote: »
    Guns are legal. No problems there.
    Umbrellas are legal in Ireland people can bring them to protests here if they wish.

    The guns were purely for intimidation and threat. There is no comparison between guns and umbrellas.
    I can't believe I just had to type that sentence.


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    #1921
    Jim_Hodge
    Registered Users Posts: 10,547 ✭✭✭✭Jim_Hodge


    Blueshoe wrote: »
    Do you want stories about the president rescuing a cat out of a tree or real life stories about booming economy and jobs. Record stock market returns for investors and regular people's pension funds.

    What is important to you

    Jesus wept! What's that phrase Mr. Trump is so fond of? FAKE NEWS.

    Booming economy and jobs? Have a look at the figures. I couldn't really care less what they do but that is absolute hogwash.


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