Relaxation of restrictions

KrustyUCC

Cork Boy 53 wrote: »

I assume it would be along the lines of the first round of restrictions that were announced in mid March. No more than 100 people indoors or 500 outdoors together at a time.

Yes think you might be right there

Cork Boy 53

Summer2020 wrote: »

Wonder does that include weddings?

Absolutely and funerals also.

Amirani

SleetAndSnow wrote: »

5k is a lot. I would have expected at most 500

This announcement doesn't mean that events of less than 5k will necessarily be allowed. There may be different subdivisions and timelines within that 5k that are yet to be announced.

easypazz

bmc58 wrote: »

Irish people need to hold fast as the measures imposed so far are saving many lives.These tough restrictions need to continue for some time longer for all our good.Otherwise if the restrictions are relaxed too early there WILL be a second wave of the virus and we will be back to square one.

Load of bollox.

The people played along.

We all did our bit.

We are all heroes.

Time to move on.

Anybody who has concerns feel free to cocoon indefinitely.

May 5th is "the big day"

castletownman

5000 could genuinely be huge news for some sport competitions to get back up and running here.

I'm specifically thinking of local GAA clubs championships- I know there would hardly be 5K at a county final here in Wexford, so if there is some semblance of go-ahead in that, happy days.

landofthetree

DeVore wrote: »

Why not kill the 3000 billionaires on the Forbes list. They have 7 Trillion between them.
Kill them (its only 3000 deaths) take their money, stay in lock down until a treatment, vaccine or heard immunity allows us to return. Live on their money and use the rest to kick start the economy.

Can anyone give me an argument against this that isnt as immoral as "I want to restart the economy, so what if more people die than necessary?"

How much of that would be in cash? Maybe 20%.

Who would you sell their assests to? The people with wealth of 500mil to 999mil? Dont think they would be too keen on buying up assests to make them billionaires.

marno21

I would imagine this is along the lines of "gatherings over 5k are out of the question between now and August. Defer all planned ones and make no plans for any new ones".

Less than 5k is a grey area and will be dealt with as we go along, but more than that forget it.

Ferris_Bueller

I hope they are clear with their statement when they announce it later on. If they say events over 5,000 it gives the impression that events under 5,000 are okay (which I would love to be true but presumably they won't be for another while at least). Mainly large sporting events, concerts and festivals are all I can think of that would have over 5,000 people - is there anything else that would attract such a crowd to the one location?

Mic 1972

bmc58 wrote: »

Irish people need to hold fast as the measures imposed so far are saving many lives.These tough restrictions need to continue for some time longer for all our good.Otherwise if the restrictions are relaxed too early there WILL be a second wave of the virus and we will be back to square one.

Yes absolutely. People are getting sloppy already with restrictions and it's way too early for that, the risk is that we are going to walk into a second wave right away

Idbatterim

easypazz wrote: »

Load of bollox.

The people played along.

We all did our bit.

We are all heroes.

Time to move on.

Anybody who has concerns feel free to cocoon indefinitely.

May 5th is "the big day"

I wish , they know they have fo throw us something. My expectations are low as fcuk. The announcement will be , the announcent will be, things will get better in time. I'm already looking at getting out of here for a few months if I can , to somewhere they can actually run a country. I'm not prepared to exist here for months longer and believe me , that is what is going to happen....

Most of up to now I agree with , to buy time etc, we've done that , now those idiots need to come up with the solutions and quickly!

The plan is sit in the same four walls and listen to the same **** in the media, then the likes of varadkar, Harris, who you wouldn't let run a corner shop, tell you how you'll be existing the next few months

the kelt

Mass gatherings allowed again in August is in my opinion pretty good news.

It seem the mood music coming from the powers that be is becoming more positive from the point of view of being able to cope and live with the virus going forward and mitigate the issues that come with that.

It seems we are getting a hold on things, getting back a bit of control enough to move on which is a positive.

castletownman

Ferris_Bueller wrote: »

I hope they are clear with their statement when they announce it later on. If they say events over 5,000 it gives the impression that events under 5,000 are okay (which I would love to be true but presumably they won't be for another while at least). Mainly large sporting events, concerts and festivals are all I can think of that would have over 5,000 people - is there anything else that would attract such a crowd to the one location?

According to some on here, pubs

robinph

easypazz wrote: »

5000 in croker could space themselves 10 metres apart.

That's never going to happen and isn't worth them opening up the stadium for.

You'll get a televised game to an empty stadium at best.

easypazz

Idbatterim wrote: »

I wish , they know they have fo throw us something. My expectations are low as fcuk. The announcement will be , the announcent will be, things will get better in time. I'm already looking at getting out of here for a few months if I can , to somewhere they can actually run a country. I'm not prepared to exist here for months longer and believe me , that is what is going to happen....

Most of up to now I agree with , to buy time etc, we've done that , now those idiots need to come up with the solutions and quickly!

The game is up and they know it.

Advise the old and vulnerable to cocoon.

Lock down nursing homes.

Full PPE in hospitals.

Roll on May 5th.

Downlinz

the kelt wrote: »

Mass gatherings allowed again in August is in my opinion pretty good news.

It seem the mood music coming from the powers that be is becoming more positive from the point of view of being able to cope and live with the virus going forward and mitigate the issues that come with that.

It seems we are getting a hold on things, getting back a bit of control enough to move on which is a positive.

They're going to ease restrictions in a small way and review if it's having a negative effect on the case numbers, ease again if not or restrict again if it is. Rinse and repeat for the next few months/years.
There's no point thinking about when the very last measure will be lifted at this stage without knowing what happens in between but it's a very optimistic timeline to think it'd be in August considering Harris suggested there would no mass gatherings this year.

Xertz

My speculative opinion is mass gatherings are off until at least the autumn if not early new year.

We need to prioritise things that benefit the economy first. There is a definite hierarchy of what you open first - lowest risk and highest economic benefit first.

Things like music festivals, summer festivals and big sporting events are socially important and great craic but if we want an economy in 2021 we need to be extremely strategic about what happens and in what sequence.

High risk events of low economic importance should not be happening until the risk is extremely low. Otherwise we could be back to square one again and we can’t afford that socially, in human costs or economically.

landofthetree

I struggle to see how inter county GAA games can happen. 30 players in close contact on a pitch, 30+ in a changing room etc Idea breeding ground for a virus.

Its not as if they are professional players who can go off and all live in quarantine like will probably happen in the top end of professional sports like soccer.

Idbatterim

easypazz wrote: »

The game is up and they know it.

Advise the old and vulnerable to cocoon.

Lock down nursing homes.

Full PPE in hospitals.

Roll on May 5th.

I hope you are right , tgey are totally spineless and will go which ever way the public mood is blowing. No doubt varadkars out in merrion square now kite flying ...

nacho libre

easypazz wrote: »

Load of bollox.



May 5th is "the big day"

A big day? What are you expecting? The current Restrictions will be eased on May 5th, but we are not going back to life as it was before the pandemic until a vaccine is ready.

Breezin

landofthetree wrote: »

I struggle to see how inter county GAA games can happen. 30 players in close contact on a pitch, 30+ in a changing room etc Idea breeding ground for a virus.

Its not as if they are professional players who can go off and all live in quarantine like will probably happen in the top end of professional sports like soccer.

Some of the fittest people on the planet. Hardly virus fodder.


Same applies to League of Ireland.

Xenji

the kelt wrote: »

Mass gatherings allowed again in August is in my opinion pretty good news.

It seem the mood music coming from the powers that be is becoming more positive from the point of view of being able to cope and live with the virus going forward and mitigate the issues that come with that.

It seems we are getting a hold on things, getting back a bit of control enough to move on which is a positive.

The article states either August or September, the confusion is due to the headline stating Autumn I would assume as depending on who you ask September is the start of Autumn meteorologically anyway.

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/politics/coronavirus-all-mass-gatherings-in-state-set-to-be-banned-until-autumn-1.4234326

easypazz

nacho libre wrote: »

A big day? What are you expecting? The current Restrictions will be eased on May 5th, but we are not going back to life as it was before the pandemic until a vaccine is ready.

Just quoting Leo.

He said its the big day.

lord quackinton

https://www.rte.ie/news/business/2020/0421/1132910-stability-programme-update-2020/

To the lockdowner Nazis on here please read this slowly and then stop embarrassing yourself on here

A deficit of 23 billion is the estimate - to hell with the sheep who have posted on here backing the dopes running this crisis
But karma is a bitch and you’ll get yours

landofthetree

Breezin wrote: »

Some of the fittest people on the planet. Hardly virus fodder.


Same applies to League of Ireland.

Im hoping by August we will alll have access to a home kit to test ourselves.

That would be a game changer.

But you would still be depending on people with mild cases to self isolate. Bound to be plenty of idiots who would refuse. :rolleyes:

stephenjmcd

Government press release attached

Idbatterim

lord quackinton wrote: »

https://www.rte.ie/news/business/2020/0421/1132910-stability-programme-update-2020/

To the lockdowner Nazis on here please read this slowly and then stop embarrassing yourself on here

A deficit of 23 billion is the estimate - to hell with the sheep who have posted on here backing the dopes running this crisis
But karma is a bitch and you’ll get yours

You know who the lockdown merchants are for the most part ? Either unemployed before this crisis and are used to endless handouts and existing or have fcuk all else going on in their lives and are enjoying this!

Cork Boy 53

Idbatterim wrote: »

I wish , they know they have fo throw us something. My expectations are low as fcuk. The announcement will be , the announcent will be, things will get better in time. I'm already looking at getting out of here for a few months if I can , to somewhere they can actually run a country. I'm not prepared to exist here for months longer and believe me , that is what is going to happen....

Most of up to now I agree with , to buy time etc, we've done that , now those idiots need to come up with the solutions and quickly!

The plan is sit in the same four walls and listen to the same **** in the media, then the likes of varadkar, Harris, who you wouldn't let run a corner shop, tell you how you'll be existing the next few months

Preferably a few years and somewhere with no internet access for you.:rolleyes:

Mic 1972

lord quackinton wrote: »

https://www.rte.ie/news/business/2020/0421/1132910-stability-programme-update-2020/

To the lockdowner Nazis on here please read this slowly and then stop embarrassing yourself on here

A deficit of 23 billion is the estimate - to hell with the sheep who have posted on here backing the dopes running this crisis
But karma is a bitch and you’ll get yours

you already embarrassed yourself when you said nazis, get over yourself it's a world health crisis, stop being selfish

the kelt

Downlinz wrote: »

They're going to ease restrictions in a small way and review if it's having a negative effect on the case numbers, ease again if not or restrict again if it is. Rinse and repeat for the next few months/years.
There's no point thinking about when the very last measure will be lifted at this stage without knowing what happens in between but it's a very optimistic timeline to think it'd be in August considering Harris suggested there would no mass gatherings this year.

Yep it is optimistic, it’s better to give people something to look towards from a positive point of view though, it may happen, it may not happen. That will depend on what happens as we go along with the easing of various restrictions etc.

There’s nothing wrong with people being optimistic and hopeful, it helps bring people with you rather than relying on fear, hence the official approach has always been “by doing this your saving lives” rather than focussing on the negative “people will definitely die approach” which some have.

I personally didn’t think I’d see any mass gathering this year and that may be still be the case but at least it’s a carrot for people, behave reasonably over the next while with the easing of restrictions and we may be in a place where we can do this etc etc.

Idbatterim

Cork Boy 53 wrote: »

Preferably a few years and somewhere with no internet access for you.:rolleyes:

Vegas or Spain probably, sorry ...