Partners banned from birth-Mullingar Hospital

eviltwin

awec wrote: »

Really? Who knew.

You might want to direct that to the OP. She seems to think births are a sacred cow.

noodler

appledrop wrote: »

How is been present at the birth of your child unnecessary?

I think you are completely blind to what's going on in the country.

It's a shame what it'll take for people like yourself to realise the issue.

iamwhoiam

It’s very disappointing for couples of course it is . It’s also disappointing not to see your grandchildren or hold a new baby grand daughter . Its very disappointing not to feel secure that you can do a Leaving cert . Its disappointing having to cancel a trip to Australia to see your family . Its very disappointing not to be able to visit your mother in a care home
Its disappointing not to have a job or try to muddle through working online with a young baby on your lap
Its disappointing to feel helpless and not able to help family who need you

We all have disappointments and we can all empathy with others who also have disappointments . Mothers and fathers are entitled to be upset at this decision but we all have something upsetting too
Lets all be kind as its not easy on any of us

skallywag

appledrop wrote: »

So for everyone here banging on about risks + corna virus etc, every other maternity hospitial in country recognises for the moment anyway the importance of partner been present at the birth.

I have a feeling that every other hospital in the country has a lot more on their plate at the moment than being concerned about a partner being present at a birth.

appledrop

eviltwin wrote: »

What about the mental health of a person who can't be with a loved one who is critically ill. Its not just pregnant woman who are impacted by this.

Of course everyone's mental health is important. However there are people posting on here who seem to think that it's a doddle for any women having a baby.

Would you triviliase someone who suffers from PTSD who had come back from war? Of course not. It's a real condition that effect some women after child birth along with post natal depression.

Obvious Desperate Breakfasts

awec wrote: »

How many kids do you have Conor?

What difference does that make?

handlemaster

Touchee wrote: »

I can’t understand the logic either. If the husband/partner has the virus, then surely the mother also has the virus. I don’t there is any additional risk in allowing the partner to assist.

And for the rest of the people out of that bubble.

skallywag

appledrop wrote: »

Of course everyone's mental health is important. However there are people posting on here who seem to think that it's a doddle for any women having a baby

You are missing the point completely. A few clowns will troll every thread, but the vast majority who have taken the time to reply to you are not saying that at all. Of course it should be the case normally, but under these circumstances that we are now in I really think you need to cop yourself on a bit.

Do we really have to be at the stage when the coffins are piling up before some people will see that such measures are not been taken lightly, and are forced on us for very good reason?

yabadabado

appledrop wrote: »

As the title says Mullingar Hospitial has banned partners from being present at the birth of their child due to cornavirus.

I know we are in the middle of a crisis but I'm sorry I think this is a step too far. I can understand no visitors etc but this is ridiculous.

Giving birth can be a very scary experience + things can go wrong. You need someone with you.

I fail to understand logic behind it. If couple are living together as a household then no further risk to each other. If putting hospitial staff as risk then surely they could wear protective gear like any other hospitial staff.

In the middle of a global pandemic,thousands dead and dying but of course there will always be people who only think of themselves.

Its unfortunate that partners cant be there but look at the bigger picture.

appledrop

skallywag wrote: »

You are missing the point completely. A few clowns will troll every thread, but the vast majority who have taken the time to reply to you are not saying that at all. Of course it should be the case normally, but under these circumstances that we are now in I really think you need to cop yourself on a bit.

Do we really have to be at the stage when the coffins are piling up before some people will see that such measures are not been taken lightly, and are forced on us for very good reason?

I never said I was a medical expert but no other maternity hospitial has taken this step so they obviously dont think it's such a big risk so I dont understand why Mullingar has taken this stance.

skallywag

appledrop wrote: »

I never said I was a medical expert but no other maternity hospitial has taken this step so they obviously dont think it's such a big risk so I dont understand why Mullingar has taken this stance.

Nor do I, but I am not arrogant enough to call it ridiculous and completely unnecessary, as you have.

Do you think that they have done it just for the sake of it, with no reasoning behind it? :mad:

michellie

This thread is some serious ****show

eviltwin

appledrop wrote: »

I never said I was a medical expert but no other maternity hospitial has taken this step so they obviously dont think it's such a big risk so I dont understand why Mullingar has taken this stance.

They are doing it to save lives, to protect their staff and patients. This hasn't been done to inconvenience pregnant women. A bit of respect for the work they are doing to keep us all safe wouldn't go amiss.

Iscreamkone

If you really want your partner present at the birth - have the baby at home.
If you want to have the baby in a maternity hospital then shut up and abide by the rules.
New rules next week.

Vegeta

Vegeta wrote: »

What excuse? And for what? I completely accept the restrictions as stated in my post.

Yes but in normal times you stated that a partner being there is to ensure no **** ups and all goes well.

If that's the argument for having someone present then surely a medical and / or legal professional third party is the best person to send in? What's the chances of a husband knowing what's right and what's wrong during a medical procedure?

Fyi, if you believe everything you are told by your mates about medical procedures that's on you but in my experience people tend to mouth off about my job and tell me stories I know for a fact aren't accurate.

Quandary

My wife is due to give birth by C section in 3 weeks time. We are both expecting to be told I won't be allowed be with her. Its not a nice feeling, particularly for her, but it reduces risk to key medical personnel and is therefore necessary.

We had a serious complication in the pregnancy a fqw weeks ago too which has made the situation even more stressful.

Our baby is likely to be spending at least a couple of weeks in the hospital after the birth too. I'm probably not going to get to see the baby for more than a month

It's a sh1t situation but as long as there's a healthy outcome for all concerned - wife, baby, nurses and doctors then it will have been worthwhile.

mohawk

eviltwin wrote: »

They obviously didn't make this decision lightly and have done so for clinical reasons. As things worsen this will probably become more widespread.

Also this hospital doesn’t specialise in Maternity care. They are a general hospital and have ICU beds so I can understand their decision.
Dublin, Cork and Limerick have specialised maternity hospitals so won’t be treating high volumes of Covid patients like a general hospital will.

I can see why a pregnant woman would be upset about this but it’s exceptional times so calls for exceptional measures.

GarIT

awec wrote: »

Just when you’re throwing the insults about, I’m trying to gauge if you actually have any notion whatsoever about what you’re talking about.

As a moderator I'm sure youre aware you should attack the post and not the poster, one of the key rules of boards going at lest 10 years back.

jmayo

appledrop wrote: »

Just to make something very clear. This is the only maternity hospital in country that has banned partners at the birth.

So for everyone here banging on about risks + corna virus etc, every other maternity hospitial in country recognises for the moment anyway the importance of partner been present at the birth.

And in that very statement you are comparing it with dedictaed Maternity hospitals such as Holles St, Rotunda, The Coombe all in Dublin, CUMH Cork, Maternity Hospital Limerick which unless things really take a turn for the worst will not have covid 19 cases.

Mullingar is a general hospital and should be compared to say Galway, Castlebar, Sligo, Letterkenny, Portlaoise, Drogheda who will have covid 10 cases as well as maternity.

Now no two hospitals are exactly alike and circumstances are different.
Therefore management can decide on different courses of action bested suited to their situation.

Mullingar has decided upon this and it doesn't matter two fooks what other places are doing.

Why is that so fooking hard for some people to get their heads around. :rolleyes:

appledrop wrote: »

I never said I was a medical expert but no other maternity hospitial has taken this step so they obviously dont think it's such a big risk so I dont understand why Mullingar has taken this stance.

No you aren't a medical expert.

Actually you haven't a fooking clue what you are talking about.

jules5417

I'm just waiting on all the other maternity hospitals to follow suit. I thought it was hard enough thinking I'd have to labour by myself if induced, but now to give birth without my husband seems surreal!!!
Every time I think about it I cry. I know it's being done to keep mothers and babies from harm but I also think if the father has covid 19 then the mother would have it too.
It's really asking a lot from new mothers and expecting nurses and midwives to do a lot more even though they are already stretched enough as it is






Seriously lads how did our parents manage to give birth without their husband. Also its not about your husband passing it in to you,its passing it on to them. You have to be there to give birth but he doesent have to be there to double the risk. I cant believe you are crying over it,get a grip there are people dying and putting their lives at risk working with patients.As long as baby is healthy it dont matter if his not there.

afkasurfjunkie

My friend just had a baby by section. Husband wasn’t allowed into theatre. She rang him to join her on the ward, after. He had to leave less than 2 hours later. Not the easiest but she was grand about it. Letting the staff deliver a healthy baby was her priority. He will have plenty of time to bond when they are home in a day or two.

Raconteuse

Being about to give birth is an emotional time - heightened sensitivity is understandable. I don't agree with the OP or others but crikey no need for such hostile language from a few.

GarIT

Raconteuse wrote: »

Being about to give birth is an emotional time - heightened sensitivity is understandable. I don't agree with the OP or others but crikey no need for such hostile language from a few.

No need for such hostile language from the OP either. I think the response is in line with the OP and the thread.

I've a huge amount of sympathy for everyone in this situation but suggesting taking PPE off a nurse working on the front lines in A&E or ICU to facilitate someone providing emotional support is outrageous as is having someone potentially being around, using the same doorways and coridors as expecting mothers and mothers who have just given birth. Sure there are probably lots of benefits to having a husband around but unfortunately in the current crisis it's tough ****.

Leo has said the ICUs will be full in a few days. That means we will be at the point of deciding who do we need to send home to die and who will we treat, even preventing 1 person in the ICU next week is saving a life.

yabadabado

Raconteuse wrote: »

Being about to give birth is an emotional time - heightened sensitivity is understandable. I don't agree with the OP or others but crikey no need for such hostile language from a few.

The OP deserves all the hostility imo,what they have posted is unbelievably self centred and down right ignorant.

awec

mohawk wrote: »

Also this hospital doesn’t specialise in Maternity care. They are a general hospital and have ICU beds so I can understand their decision.
Dublin, Cork and Limerick have specialised maternity hospitals so won’t be treating high volumes of Covid patients like a general hospital will.

I can see why a pregnant woman would be upset about this but it’s exceptional times so calls for exceptional measures.

This sentence sums it up.

It's the right thing to do, but it's not unreasonable for pregnant women to be upset by it.

Those dismissing their concerns out of hand are just being dicks tbh. Especially when you've no notion whatsoever what goes on during child birth, particularly when things do not go to plan.

noodler

One of the three who died today was a health-care worker.

noodler

noodler wrote: »

One of the three who died today was a health-care worker.

National hero.

marilynrr

Obvious Desperate Breakfasts wrote: »

They're being denied medical treatment? No? Everything else is superfluous.

I know somebody in the UK whose cancer treatment is being delayed. She is stage 4 so that treatment is literally keeping her alive. I'm sure she'd take a healthy pregnant woman's predicament in a heartbeat. A bit of perspective, please.

There was an Irish woman on the radio the other day who said her life prolonging cancer treatment has been cancelled. This was an Irish hospital.
I can't remember what radio station it was, someone posted a link on the main COVID-19 thread.
She had breast cancer I believe but it had spread and was stage 4. I think she said the treatment was stopping it from getting worse.
She was told she would be offered pain relief and palliative care.
She said the nurse who phoned her to say it was postponed was crying down and phone to her and said she had to make several of the calls.
The poor woman is only 38 I believe and a mother of 2 or 3 children, she is absolutely terrified about what this means for her and if the cancer is just going to grow out of control now.

Obvious Desperate Breakfasts

awec wrote: »

This sentence sums it up.

It's the right thing to do, but it's not unreasonable for pregnant women to be upset by it.

Those dismissing their concerns out of hand are just being dicks tbh. Especially when you've no notion whatsoever what goes on during child birth, particularly when things do not go to plan.

Everybody knows that labour can go wrong. The presence of a partner will not in any way medically help in that situation. I’m not sure why you think somebody has to have personally experienced it to know that. We’ve had somebody in this thread say that they couldn’t have coped with their difficult labour without their partner present. Anyone who has been through any kind of serious health problems that involved hospitalisation knows that’s not true.

Obvious Desperate Breakfasts

marilynrr wrote: »

There was an Irish woman on the radio the other day who said her life prolonging cancer treatment has been cancelled. This was an Irish hospital.
I can't remember what radio station it was, someone posted a link on the main COVID-19 thread.
She had breast cancer I believe but it had spread and was stage 4. I think she said the treatment was stopping it from getting worse.
She was told she would be offered pain relief and palliative care.
She said the nurse who phoned her to say it was postponed was crying down and phone to her and said she had to make several of the calls.
The poor woman is only 38 I believe and a mother of 2 or 3 children, she is absolutely terrified about what this means for her and if the cancer is just going to grow out of control now.

That’s really heartbreaking. I’m on treatment for stage 4 breast cancer and I am so glad that my current treatment is a tablet that I take at home. I’m lucky compared to some.