COVID-19: Vaccine/antidote and testing procedures Megathread [Mod Warning - Post #1]

Stheno

ceegee wrote: »

It will if you're one of the 5% it doesn't work properly for.

Thats part of my reasoning for wanting my colleagues to be vaccinated

The company I work for have been incredibly diligent in ensuring employees are safe, and I expect they will bring in a requirement that unless you have a medical reason, you must be vaccinated when the vaccine is widely available

Id not be surprised if the vaccine becomes available on the open market and they procure a supply for staff

Mike3549

Stheno wrote: »

Thats part of my reasoning for wanting my colleagues to be vaccinated

The company I work for have been incredibly diligent in ensuring employees are safe, and I expect they will bring in a requirement that unless you have a medical reason, you must be vaccinated when the vaccine is widely available

Id not be surprised if the vaccine becomes available on the open market and they procure a supply for staff

And what if they refuse? You cant fire them, like somebody said, its Ireland, not China.

Stheno

Mike3549 wrote: »

And what if they refuse? You cant fire them, like somebody said, its Ireland, not China.

They will be able to wfh like we all currently do

Necro

kingbhome wrote: »

Mod: The purpose of this thread is baked into the title - COVID-19: Vaccine/antidote and testing procedures - it's not a platform to push an anti vaccination agenda. If posters wish to discuss the perceived cons of vaccinations, or push various theories regarding 'the agenda' (whatever that is supposed to mean), open a thread elsewhere on it.


Is there anti vax,. Anti vacation agenda threads here on boards?

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PM me with any issues, in the meantime don't post in this thread again

Stheno

https://www.irishexaminer.com/news/arid-40086728.html

Keyword for the vaccine task force is urgency

Very positive messaging from the head of the task force, its good to hear

ACitizenErased

Stheno wrote: »

https://www.irishexaminer.com/news/arid-40086728.html

Keyword for the vaccine task force is urgency

Very positive messaging from the head of the task force, its good to hear

I'm actually fairly disappointed that the first meeting hasn't even happened

Thierry12

ceegee wrote: »

It will if you're one of the 5% it doesn't work properly for.

I will be stuck inside forever then

timsey tiger

Russman wrote: »

This might sound silly, I’m not trying to be, but are there any storage facilities in the country that can store the Pfizer vaccine ?
I’m just thinking of the, admittedly unlikely, scenario that when approval is given, the doses start shipping a few hours later, and a FedEx plane arrives in Dublin in late December with a cache of vaccines and people are looking at each other blankly.

Won't happen, we won't get any if we haven't out distribution sorted. The EU are organising the purchase and want to do the best for all its citizens.

astrofool

Russman wrote: »

This might sound silly, I’m not trying to be, but are there any storage facilities in the country that can store the Pfizer vaccine ?
I’m just thinking of the, admittedly unlikely, scenario that when approval is given, the doses start shipping a few hours later, and a FedEx plane arrives in Dublin in late December with a cache of vaccines and people are looking at each other blankly.

Yes we do, probably not as many as we want to have, but it's essentially a fancy freezer with two compressors, or use something like dry ice with lots of insulation to keep it at the intended temperature.

I'm sure the manufacturers are making more of them than usual in anticipation of this (and afterwards we'll have more cold storage than we need), but most hospitals and universities will already have them.

Deeper Blue

If the vaccine is approved in mid December it'll probably take the UK 24 hours or less to start vaccinations, meanwhile our vaccine taskforce will be trying to plan their first meeting to suit everyone's Christmas holidays

braychelsea

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-55005494
https://www.scotsman.com/health/coronavirus-scotland-one-million-scots-be-vaccinated-january-jeane-freeman-says-3041251

Interesting articles to compare against Ireland since Scotland has the same population. Scotland plan to deploy 320,000 doses in the first two weeks of December. 1 million vaccinated by end of January and to have everyone vaccinated by Spring (March).

In comparison, Ireland has yet to even had a meeting of our vaccine taskforce, with an update on a rollout not even likely until December 16th (https://www.thesun.ie/news/6168028/coronavirus-vaccine-ireland-pfizer-delivery-christmas-pressure/). Michael Martin has said at the moment the vunerable are unlikely to be vaccinated until at least end of January, with the general public not having access to vaccines until mid-2021(June/July). I think the government have massively dropped the ball on this, were they really caught unaware that there would be a vaccine for COVID-19?

ixoy

El Sueño wrote: »

If the vaccine is approved in mid December it'll probably take the UK 24 hours or less to start vaccinations, meanwhile our vaccine taskforce will be trying to plan their first meeting to suit everyone's Christmas holidays

If the UK does do this - and I'd have my doubts - then the journalists should be honestly shredding the HSE at NPHET briefings and asking why they're only starting up a task force now when the basics should be in place.

ACitizenErased

New study published in the National Library of Medicine in the US has recommended mass administration of vitamin D supplements to population at risk for COVID-19.

COVID-19 is characterized by marked variability in clinical severity. Vitamin D had recently been reviewed as one of the factors that may affect the severity in COVID-19. The objective of current study is to analyze the vitamin D level in COVID-19 patients and its impact on the disease severity. After approval from Ethics Committee, M.L.B Medical College the current study was undertaken as continuous prospective observational study of 6 weeks. Participants were COVID-19 patients of age group 30-60 years admitted during the study period of 6 weeks. Study included either asymptomatic COVID-19 patients (Group A) or severely ill patients requiring ICU admission (Group . Serum concentration of 25 (OH)D, were measured along with serum IL-6; TNFα and serum ferritin. Standard statistical analysis was performed to analyze the differences. Current Study enrolled 154 patients, 91 in Group A and 63 patients in Group B. The mean level of vitamin D (in ng/mL) was 27.89 ± 6.21 in Group A and 14.35 ± 5.79 in Group B, the difference was highly significant. The prevalence of vitamin D deficiency was 32.96% and 96.82% respectively in Group A and Group B. Out of total 154 patients, 90 patients were found to be deficient in vitamin D (Group A: 29; Group B: 61). Serum level of inflammatory markers was found to be higher in vitamin D deficient COVID-19 patients viz. IL-6 level (in pg/mL) 19.34 ± 6.17 vs 12.18 ± 4.29; Serum ferritin 319.17 ± 38.21 ng/mL vs 186.83 ± 20.18 ng/mL; TNFα level (in pg/mL) 13.26 ± 5.64 vs 11.87 ± 3.15. The fatality rate was high in vitamin D deficient (21% vs 3.1%). Vitamin D level is markedly low in severe COVID-19 patients. Inflammatory response is high in vitamin D deficient COVID-19 patients. This all translates into increased mortality in vitamin D deficient COVID-19 patients. As per the flexible approach in the current COVID-19 pandemic authors recommend mass administration of vitamin D supplements to population at risk for COVID-19.

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33214648/

Russman

Are countries and/or Pfizer allowed to preposition stocks of the vaccine in advance of approval for use ?

Marhay70

ixoy wrote: »

If the UK does do this - and I'd have my doubts - then the journalists should be honestly shredding the HSE at NPHET briefings and asking why they're only starting up a task force now when the basics should be in place.

Nothing to stop everybody lobbying the Government TDs in their constituency and stating that you're not happy that enough urgency is being attached to the convening of the task force. Always helps to let them know you are aware of what's going on.

Marhay70

ACitizenErased wrote: »

New study published in the National Library of Medicine in the US has recommended mass administration of vitamin D supplements to population at risk for COVID-19.


https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33214648/

My pharmacist advised me back in May that it would be beneficial for myself and my wife to take a Vitamin D supplement and I've been taking them ever since.
It's often the street level health professionals who give the best advice.
Of course the greedy distributors have made them a premium product now, adding over 60% to the price since then.

ACitizenErased

Marhay70 wrote: »

My pharmacist advised me back in May that it would be beneficial for myself and my wife to take a Vitamin D supplement and I've been taking them ever since.
It's often the street level health professionals who give the best advice.
Of course the greedy distributors have made them a premium product now, adding over 60% to the price since then.

I get mine on MyProtein. With Student Discount I can get ~500 capsules for like a tenner.

Miike

ACitizenErased wrote: »

I get mine on MyProtein. With Student Discount I can get ~500 capsules for like a tenner.

Currently have a 45% sale on too with code "BLACK". I expect to be carded for posting a bargain alert in a COVID thread :pac:

Marhay70

ACitizenErased wrote: »

I get mine on MyProtein. With Student Discount I can get ~500 capsules for like a tenner.

Good price, although I doubt I'll qualify for a student discount, that's in the dim and distant past.:( Which one do you get?

Marhay70

Miike wrote: »

Currently have a 45% sale on too with code "BLACK". I expect to be carded for posting a bargain alert in a COVID thread :pac:

It's relevant, I would have thought.

ACitizenErased

Marhay70 wrote: »

Good price, although I doubt I'll qualify for a student discount, that's in the dim and distant past.:( Which one do you get?

The D3, usually get 540 capsules

IrishStuff09

Marhay70 wrote: »

Good price, although I doubt I'll qualify for a student discount, that's in the dim and distant past.:( Which one do you get?

If you need a discount code feel free to PM me and I'll send one your way

JacksonHeightsOwn

IrishStuff09 wrote: »

If you need a discount code feel free to PM me and I'll send one your way

Any chance of your bank account details as well?

IrishStuff09

chrisbonnie wrote: »

Any chance of your bank account details as well?

You won't get far with 25 cent

Dickie10

should the public at large and by extension the media start to ramp up the pressure on HSE to make sure its house is in order for vaccinations to start within 24 hrs of green light given, like we should get a huge amount vaccinated if going on 12 hour shifts 7 days a week, all through xmas. like instead of massive reaction and fall out from a scandal and the pressure that puts agencies under to deliver something or do the right thing, i think we need to ramp up and frontload the pressure on HSE to put them on thier toes

Marhay70

Dickie10 wrote: »

should the public at large and by extension the media start to ramp up the pressure on HSE to make sure its house is in order for vaccinations to start within 24 hrs of green light given, like we should get a huge amount vaccinated if going on 12 hour shifts 7 days a week, all through xmas. like instead of massive reaction and fall out from a scandal and the pressure that puts agencies under to deliver something or do the right thing, i think we need to ramp up and frontload the pressure on HSE to put them on thier toes

I was flicking through the TV channels earlier on and came across a repeat of a radio news show which was hosted by Katie Hannon and every second text coming through was expressing concern over how the government and more especially the HSE were likely to handle the vaccine roll out, suffice it to say confidence wasn't high.
At least it's out there and people are putting their views into the public domain, no harm in keeping up the pressure.

jackboy

Marhay70 wrote: »

I was flicking through the TV channels earlier on and came across a repeat of a radio news show which was hosted by Katie Hannon and every second text coming through was expressing concern over how the government and more especially the HSE were likely to handle the vaccine roll out, suffice it to say confidence wasn't high.
At least it's out there and people are putting their views into the public domain, no harm in keeping up the pressure.

The HSE have been under massive pressure for years and they aren’t even slightly bothered. Pressure won’t work. Realistically nothing will work. We are dependent on the HSE bothering to organise this properly if they feel like it.

Marhay70

jackboy wrote: »

The HSE have been under massive pressure for years and they aren’t even slightly bothered. Pressure won’t work. Realistically nothing will work. We are dependent on the HSE bothering to organise this properly if they feel like it.

I don't want to derail the thread by getting into a political discussion so I'll just say this.
The HSE isn't bothered because Government don't hold them to account, Government don't hold them to account because we, the electorate, don't hold Government to account. Solution; hold Government to account by not returning the same old useless TDs time after time just because their grandad's first cousin walked down O'Connell Street in 1916. End of rant.

Sky King

kingbhome wrote: »

Both sides of the debate have valid evidence on who's right and wrong which to me, is destressing.

I've never seen a coherent argument against vaccination from a reputable, qualified professional. Ever.

Ashleigh1986

in galway the galway airport is been used as a testing center , it should be getting ready to be used as a vaccine center .
It should be opened from 9am to 9pm Monday to Sunday to get as many people vaccinated as possible .
The same should be rolled out throughout the country .