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Coronovirus - Gamsat MARCH 2020
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I personally love UL and it was my first choice on a 60+ score. All of the medical schools have their advantages and disadvantages. I think the self directed learning is an excellent preparation for real life after we graduate as we will all be fending for ourselves then anyway.
If you are someone who prefers actively researching concepts, finding solutions and finding the answers to questions that you have no idea about... then UL might be for you. I really believe this type of system helps you retain information as it’s more difficult forget things learned this way. If you would rather be given the information via lecture notes etc. so you can then learn it, then UL might not be for you.
At times it can be difficult to know how far you need to go for certain topics but there still is guidance. We still have some lectures and a lot of support from upper years. It doesn’t suit everyone but I equally agree that didactic teaching doesn’t suit everyone either.
I think the bad rep for UL definitely comes from students in other schools, perhaps due to the impression that many of the UL students really wanted Dublin. This is definitely the case for some, but absolutely not all of them. Even if this was the case, it shouldn’t matter. I know many on high scores and I agree that the lower point requirement is partly influenced by the larger class size.
At the end of the day we will all be working together in a few years and it won’t even matter then. 0 -
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Slightly off topic but I've heard UL has a much higher drop out rate than any other GEMS programme? Is this true?heard that 10-15 leave every first semester....a bit worrying
Hi Redser, there's a good chance I'm one of the four roundpony is referring to that left UL in 2018. Roundpony is right 10-15 don't leave in the first semester although I'm sure it varies from year to year. There's no doubt the first 6-8 weeks are intense and the biggest adjustment is adapting to the PBL style of teaching and the self learning. The PBL sessions can feel quite pressured, as sometimes you'll have a huge amount of learning between the Tuesday and the Friday. But this also depends on your PBL tutor.. Some are more easy going than others! It can also feel competitive, your PBL group will be a mixture of backgrounds, science +2 non science backgrounds. The first semester is particularly difficult for the non science graduates but by the time the students reach the end of 1st year things have levelled out.
For me the decision to leave was influenced by a number of factors. In 2017 I was on 58 and ucd was my 1st pref. It came down to 58 in the 2nd/3rd rounds but didn't get an offer. I decided to keep working, sit again and reapply in 2018..unfortunately got 55 the next year so reapplied with the 58 again.. Ucd came down to 58 again in the later rounds but didn't get a place. I remember the guy getting the call while he was in orientation at UL.. Felt like such a lotto the whole thing. I also got rejected the grad med loan from BOI which naturally made things more stressful. I then tried to commute from County Galway which isn't the smartest when you're doing PBL. Ultimately I was going to struggle finding the fees and I decided to leave and return to work, which I did and see where things were in an another year or two. The whole entry system into graduate medicine in Ireland needs to re-examined if you ask me. Even in Scotland the scotgem programme allows students to have most of their fees covered of they commit to the NHS Scotland for 5yrs post graduation. Can we not introduce something like that.. It beggers belief that so much time and money goes into educating graduate medical students in Ireland only for them not to have the incentive to want to stay here after their intern year but head abroad to re-coup their debt or in some cases of course for the lifestyle. I'd love to see a Scotgem incentive introduced here, it would be a twofold benefit to the student and to our health system, but hey it's business too for the unis so the push needs to come from the dept of Ed and the HSE. Sorry Redser went off on a tangent there!!
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Hi Redser, there's a good chance I'm one of the four roundpony is referring to that left UL in 2018. Roundpony is right 10-15 don't leave in the first semester although I'm sure it varies from year to year. There's no doubt the first 6-8 weeks are intense and the biggest adjustment is adapting to the PBL style of teaching and the self learning. The PBL sessions can feel quite pressured, as sometimes you'll have a huge amount of learning between the Tuesday and the Friday. But this also depends on your PBL tutor.. Some are more easy going than others! It can also feel competitive, your PBL group will be a mixture of backgrounds, science +2 non science backgrounds. The first semester is particularly difficult for the non science graduates but by the time the students reach the end of 1st year things have levelled out.
For me the decision to leave was influenced by a number of factors. In 2017 I was on 58 and ucd was my 1st pref. It came down to 58 in the 2nd/3rd rounds but didn't get an offer. I decided to keep working, sit again and reapply in 2018..unfortunately got 55 the next year so reapplied with the 58 again.. Ucd came down to 58 again in the later rounds but didn't get a place. I remember the guy getting the call while he was in orientation at UL.. Felt like such a lotto the whole thing. I also got rejected the grad med loan from BOI which naturally made things more stressful. I then tried to commute from County Galway which isn't the smartest when you're doing PBL. Ultimately I was going to struggle finding the fees and I decided to leave and return to work, which I did and see where things were in an another year or two. The whole entry system into graduate medicine in Ireland needs to re-examined if you ask me. Even in Scotland the scotgem programme allows students to have most of their fees covered of they commit to the NHS Scotland for 5yrs post graduation. Can we not introduce something like that.. It beggers belief that so much time and money goes into educating graduate medical students in Ireland only for them not to have the incentive to want to stay here after their intern year but head abroad to re-coup their debt or in some cases of course for the lifestyle. I'd love to see a Scotgem incentive introduced here, it would be a twofold benefit to the student and to our health system, but hey it's business too for the unis so the push needs to come from the dept of Ed and the HSE. Sorry Redser went off on a tangent there!!
I know, the system is all very lucky dip, when it comes to the * score, there should be some other system like interviews or something to make it less mentally tough for people, like missing out on a lotto is not ideal... Did you apply for UCC with your 58? The programme there seems very good also!0
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