Coronavirus Part V - 34 cases in ROI, 16 in NI (as of 10 March) *Read warnings in OP*

Mic 1972

21 cases with a population of less than 5M people we are actually already worse than japan, they have 4.2 infected per milion, we have 4.7

mcgucc22

cnocbui wrote: »

That farmer had a point about doctors and vets.

I was on the phone today from 11:00-15:15 trying to book an appointment with my local surgery. After 10min or so on hold, someone answered and said they were one of the Drs and to leave my name and number and someone would get back to me shortly - heat death of the universe likely to come sooner. Tried two more times to get through and after probably at least €6 worth of on hold, I decided to give up and got in the car and drove to the surgery.

The receptionist then said they had an acute clinic each morning and that I should ring next morning between .... are you f'n kidding me? I'm f'n standing there because they wouldn't answer the f'n phone, and probably the same person I was talking to was responsible for that €6 down the toilet. Got a booking after pointing out why I was standing there in the first place.

Interestingly I was told when I arrive the next morning I'm to go sit in my car until summoned - hallelujah!

Opened all doors with my elbows. unfortunately had to breath some air in order to speak.

I get there are low numbers of GPs in this country but that's something else that boils my urine. I know of two students at my son's school who wanted to get in to medicine but were rejected. One of them scored 400 in the leaving cert! The other was within 1 or 2 points of the requirements and was so determined she repeated the final year but might have been done by the hpat get out clause.

Anyone got the number for a good vet?

400 points in the Leaving Cert isn't particularly good.

cnocbui

cnocbui wrote: »

You will be able to recognise regulars on this thread, when out and about, by the large bulging muscles to the side of each eye.

Hahaha as if anyone from this thread will be out and about!!

DrumSteve

KWAG2019 wrote: »

China seems close to containment in Wuhan. The question then becomes when do they decide to end containment and allow travel again. That’s going to be of interest in northern Italy.

I'd imagine end of the month.

Everyone coming into China is going to get tested for the foreseeable.

leck

BorneTobyWilde wrote: »

Are these common flu deaths real? 100s of 1000s of people dying left right and centre every day? Where are these people, I know of none? Where do all these people go, vanish into thin air?
How come we never see morgues over run if this is the case. How come these ''few'' Covid 19 cases has caused such a back log, when 100's of 1000's of people die from the common flu? Doesn't add up.

Where did you get those figures? Bear in mind that flu season is not yet over, this is a mid-Feb report from the HPSC:

Influenza activity almost at baseline levels in Ireland

Published: February 13, 2020
Influenza-like illness (ILI) activity was at low levels in Ireland during the week ending February 9th.
ILI rates have decreased to 20.5 per 100,000 population during week 6 2020 (week ending February 9th 2020) from 23.8 per 100,000 (updated) during week 5 2020 (week ending February 2nd 2020). Overall this season, influenza A (H3N2) was the predominant influenza virus circulating in the community, with influenza A(H1N1)pdm09 circulating at lower levels. In the past week, increasing influenza B activity was seen and influenza A and B co-circulated. Influenza viruses are expected to circulate for the next 2 weeks at least. During week 6 2020, GP influenza-like illness rates increased in children aged 5 to 14 years.

The number of reported influenza hospitalisations remained stable at 79 cases during week 6. The highest hospitalisation rates were seen in people aged 65 years and older and in children aged less than five years old. To date this season, 3,323 hospitalised confirmed influenza cases have been reported to HPSC, the majority due to influenza A. One hundred and twenty-three confirmed flu cases have been admitted to critical care units, the majority due to influenza A. One hundred and one influenza outbreaks and 85 influenza-associated deaths have been reported to HPSC to date this season. The majority of the deaths have occurred in persons aged 65 years and older. Excess all-cause mortality was reported in Ireland, in adults aged 65 years and older, from week 51 2019 to week 2 2020

https://www.hpsc.ie/news/influenza-activity-almost-at-baseline-levels-in-ireland.html

cnocbui

Duke of Url wrote: »

Yep. Was forgotten today on RTE that people have recovered and they kept on hashing out that 110,000 confirmed cases like nobody has recovered.

Also a milestone today is that Serious and Critical dropped another % down to 13%

It was 18% 6 days ago.

62,722 have now recovered from the virus.

Death to recovery ratio is only 6.2%. That's a relief.

tillyfilly

Why does the corona virus love Dublin? Cos it can keep doubling and doubling here

caveat emptor

Holy Sh1te!

https://twitter.com/FarukFirat1987/status/1237047010043334661?s=20

juno10353

How many patients on trolleys awaiting hospital beds.

NegativeCreep

Cw85 wrote: »

Nope if they get it they don't come to work

But they won’t know they have it until they become symptomatic. At which point they could have spread it to 2 other people in the office. Surely it’s better they isolate for 2 weeks if they knowingly came into contact with someone who has it.

YFlyer

Cw85 wrote: »

Nope if they get it they don't come to work

There is a 5 to 14 days incubation period.

ThePopehimself

Strazdas wrote: »

And cinemas, restaurants, concerts, schools, offices, buses, trains......how can they possibly be safe if an outdoor parade is deemed "unsafe"?

Exactly.

namloc1980

What time are the latest Italian numbers being released at?

cloudatlas

A list of sane governments (well in this case) https://www.ryanair.com/ie/en/useful-info/disruptions-and-refunds/coronavirus-covid-19/flight-passenger-restrictions

Jordan, israel, georgia, Montenegro & Czech Republic, slovakia, hungary

megabomberman

I see the deniers have moved on to 'there will be survivors'

DellyBelly

Looks like the parades have been cancelled

https://www.breakingnews.ie/ireland/st-patricks-day-parades-cancelled-in-cork-and-dublin-986755.html

Pity but the right thing to do

cherryghost

namloc1980 wrote: »

What time are the latest Italian numbers being released at?

Around 5pm

New Home

namloc1980 wrote: »

What time are the latest Italian numbers being released at?

6PM local time (ish...) - 1 hour ahead of us. They've often been half an hour late.

See

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-1yPaN2RLZw

Ludo

namloc1980 wrote: »

What time are the latest Italian numbers being released at?

5pm usually

namloc1980

cloudatlas wrote: »

A list of sane governments (well in this case) https://www.ryanair.com/ie/en/useful-info/disruptions-and-refunds/coronavirus-covid-19/flight-passenger-restrictions

Jordan, israel, georgia, Montenegro & Czech Republic, slovakia, hungary

Slovakia and Hungary are both in the EU. That's for those in here who think because of the big bad EU and free movement of people, that nothing can be done about travel restrictions by individual EU member states.

gabeeg

namloc1980 wrote: »

What time are the latest Italian numbers being released at?

Usually around 5pm

tobefrank321

givyjoe wrote: »

Nope, just a drop in demand due to quarantine measures.

Just checked their website again and there's a daily flight from Milan to Dublin for at least the next couple of weeks.

So there's still a chance Cherryghost's mother-in-law will pay a visit.

cnocbui

mcgucc22 wrote: »

400 points in the Leaving Cert isn't particularly good.

Sorry, it was 500.

kowloon

Thelonious Monk wrote: »

How long until rioting and martial law in a European country?

The virus can't infect anyone if we punch it to death.

Cw85

NegativeCreep wrote: »

But they won’t know they have it until they become symptomatic. At which point they could have spread it to 2 other people in the office. Surely it’s better they isolate for 2 weeks if they knowingly came into contact with someone who has it.

Well yes if they knowingly came in contact with someone who had it I would not let them work either. My point is you can't close every business in the country over fear

Cilldara_2000

Drumpot wrote: »

You didn’t answer any point I made. And most western countries have been going through a decade of continual growth and compounded prosperity. The fact that there is still so many homeless and vulnerable people left to their fates on Their own is a reflection of that society’s values.

You can tell yourself whatever story helps you live with your own values. I work like everybody else and will suffer as a self employed person because of what’s coming. But I’m not delusional on the house of sand bullsh*t ponzi crap the whole system is built around. I know it will recover , regardless of what happens, because there are too many vested interests in the system who can manipulate it back to life.

This is rich considering you still haven't rebutted the point that old, sick and vulnerable people are the groups who suffer the most from a recession.

Wishing for all sorts of revolutionary change to the current prevailing economic system is all well and good but it's not going to happen tomorrow or next week.

Rob A. Bank

The world spends trillions on defense for human against human threats… but peanuts on the defense of humanity as a whole against the infection threat.

Viruses will mutate and jump from other species to humans at fairly regular intervals, as all the lethal pandemics past and present illustrate only too well.

The coronavirus epidemics of SARS (2002) and MERS (2012) were wake up calls, but the opportunities were missed because the outbreaks were brought under control fairly quickly. Work was started on antiviral drugs and vaccines for coronavirus, but they were abandoned because there was no money to be made. If work had continued the chance of effective antivirals and an early vaccine against Covid-19 would be much better now.

Tax giveaways to the ultra-rich and a failure of big companies to pay their fair share in tax has resulted in defunding of many vital services.

The WHO and agencies like the CDC in the states are THE organizations capable of surveillance for impending public health emergencies and coordinating meaningful responses to global health threats. They depend on funding to be able to be able to do their job and it has not been forthcoming recently.

Governments have reduced their contributions to the World health Organization, it's agencies and other public health services.

The money they should have spent dwarfs into insignificance when you estimate the trillions which this pandemic will cost and of course the many lives lost.

I hope lessons will be learned when this is all over.

Chong

Can I ask why are the Iranians releasing prisoners?

ITman88

Drumpot wrote: »

You didn’t answer any point I made. And most western countries have been going through a decade of continual growth and compounded prosperity. The fact that there is still so many homeless and vulnerable people left to their fates on Their own is a reflection of that society’s values.

You can tell yourself whatever story helps you live with your own values. I work like everybody else and will suffer as a self employed person because of what’s coming. But I’m not delusional on the house of sand bullsh*t ponzi crap the whole system is built around. I know it will recover , regardless of what happens, because there are too many vested interests in the system who can manipulate it back to life.

Mentioning the homeless is always worth a few likes I suppose.
Your self employed you say and what’s coming will affect you, and yet predict recovery. Your a financial advisor, I’d imagine you will be in demand throughout a recession.
I’m not self employed and my industry is vulnerable to the economy. I’d like not to have issues paying a mortgage, and also not have a spike in suicide rates as seen during the last recession

is_that_so

megabomberman wrote: »

I see the deniers have moved on to 'there will be survivors'

About 96% I believe.