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Coronavirus Part V - 34 cases in ROI, 16 in NI (as of 10 March) *Read warnings in OP*

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,332 ✭✭✭Tenzor07


    Scotty # wrote: »
    Not a chance!

    Business already preparing to close offices, so this meeting with employer groups will at least seek to set out workers rights during closures of premises..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,599 ✭✭✭Hamsterchops


    UK & Ireland Covid-19 cases update 3:45pm...

    UK = 319 cases
    Ireland = 21 cases (for now)!

    Irish update @6pm this evening.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,306 ✭✭✭✭Drumpot


    Your post is all well and good but you haven't in the least bit rebutted the point that old, sick and vulnerable people will be the groups who suffer the most from a recession.

    Interesting interpretation, when you say “suffer” how would that “suffering” compare with the kind of suffering we will face if we prioritize our economies?

    Did 1%-2% of older or vulnerable people die after 07/08 crash? Did our healthcare system capitulate which in itself will lead to significant deaths indirectly as a result of stretched health systems.

    If the economy cannot survive drastic measures that are needed to protect the safety of people in natural disasters it needs to be changed. Some humility and soul searching is needed because maybe this won’t be too bad but it shows how unprepared we are to address it with the “economy guillotine“ having way too much weight with decisions being made.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,824 ✭✭✭facehugger99


    The pensioners must be delighted that all the on-thread white-knights are going to save them by destroying the economy.

    We can remind them how lucky they are to have such valiant experts in their corner when they go to collect their pensions and there's no money to give them.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    I looked in the window of the barbers at the weekend and it looked normal enough.
    I heard on the radio Today a woman was told to self isolate and she went to the hair dressers.
    One has to prepare oneself properly!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,481 ✭✭✭NSAman


    I presume he meant MERS

    That started on the X Factor!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 567 ✭✭✭tillyfilly


    The dow Jones has recovered slightly since the short circuit breaker , 4.85 % down for the day, phew!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,842 ✭✭✭Rob A. Bank


    Sars started in China, nothing to do with camels.

    My mistake... a slip of the pen.... Should have said MERS


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,534 ✭✭✭xtal191


    Whats the link to that live map?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 42,429 ✭✭✭✭Boggles


    The pensioners must be delighted that all the on-thread white-knights are going to save them by destroying the economy.

    We can remind them how lucky they are to have such valiant experts in their corner when they go to collect their pensions and there's no money to give them.

    #edgelord


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,059 ✭✭✭✭spookwoman




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,711 ✭✭✭cloudatlas


    I think we are going to get sick because we are surrounded by people who genuflect in front of the creature comforts and materialism of capitalist society like the person I've quoted below, they don't want to miss out, not for anyone else and certainly not for the greater good.

    "I think people should be realistic, the risk of Coronavirus most likely isn’t going away for months, maybe longer. Are we all going to avoid gyms and malls and cinemas for that long? Stick to basic hygiene, pay more attention to washing your hands thoroughly, try to live a normal life and not stress too much. As I said in my post, this could go on for a long long LONG time. I’m not isolating myself from the world for a year. I’ll practice hygiene measures as recommended and will isolate myself if and when I get sick and that’s it."


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 42,429 ✭✭✭✭Boggles


    45,000 active cases.

    6-8 week push, with a bit of a luck and a bit good weather and everyone doing there bit should kill it off.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,591 ✭✭✭gabeeg




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,277 ✭✭✭✭Thelonious Monk


    The pensioners must be delighted that all the on-thread white-knights are going to save them by destroying the economy.

    We can remind them how lucky they are to have such valiant experts in their corner when they go to collect their pensions and there's no money to give them.

    The economy isn't everything, stupid.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 657 ✭✭✭I Am The Law


    jarvis wrote: »
    Typical Dublin bus. You wait and wait for one bus to get covid-19 then 2 come along together!!!

    There once were 2 buses with Covid-19
    They waited for word on their quarantine
    But as time did pass
    This trip was their last
    They should have been scrapped in 2013


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 876 ✭✭✭ITman88


    nthclare wrote: »
    There's always a sociopathic or psychotic psychopath on these threads.

    I assure you I’m neither. A realist is more accurate.
    I’m not getting enjoyment from this I assure you.
    But I also assure you sick and vulnerable people die every day almost 80 per day in Ireland,1500 in Italy.
    We need a realistic response to this.
    The prosperous economy is ironically what has increased our life expectancy in the 1st place.
    If the economy tanks the corona virus won’t be an issue because the life expectancy will lower drastically


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,306 ✭✭✭✭Drumpot


    The pensioners must be delighted that all the on-thread white-knights are going to save them by destroying the economy.

    We can remind them how lucky they are to have such valiant experts in their corner when they go to collect their pensions and there's no money to give them.

    Why wouid there be no money to give them?

    And for the record, I’m a financial adviser so have an extensive understanding of the bullsh*t my industry pushes. It’s so absorbed in itself it will always find a way to recover. It’s actually quite impressive at how many within the industry, including economists and “financial experts” believe their own hype.

    These would be the same people pushing Boris and Trump to take massive gambles with peoples lives so the machine keeps moving.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,798 ✭✭✭✭DrumSteve


    Boggles wrote: »
    45,000 active cases.

    6-8 week push, with a bit of a luck and a bit good weather and everyone doing there bit should kill it off.

    As soon as one person dies in this country, we will shut up shop.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,293 ✭✭✭billybonkers


    Nijmegen wrote: »
    6 people died in Italian prisons over the weekend during riots related to Covid-19 restrictions on visitation and fears around the spread inside the prison.


    They broke into medical stores and took overdoses


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,377 ✭✭✭leck


    There is no cunningham rd
    He must mean Covid Rd.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,134 ✭✭✭jimwallace197


    Would be surprised if infection rate doesnt hit at least 250 million, I would take those recovered rates with a pinch of salt aswell


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 65 ✭✭1882


    The Chinese... NOT a great bunch of lads.
    I always thought these type of viruses and diseases would mainly come from the African continent. But no, Its China again. Damn them to hell!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 962 ✭✭✭darjeeling


    Is there any update on upcoming Treatments for COVID19.

    Im not talking about Vaccines which I know is due to be ready next year.

    I repeat......


    Im not talking about Vaccines which I know is due to be ready next year.

    Clinical trials from China are due to start concluding from April onwards, so expect results soon after.

    Some countries are already using some of the drugs under test to treat patients, even if we don't know if they are effective.

    Antiviral drugs:
    HIV protease inhibitors - block the maturation of viral proteins via the virally-encoded protease.
    Remdesivir - novel drug developed vs ebola, though was too late & not effective there - blocks the viral enzyme that replicates the viral RNA genome.

    Other drugs:
    (hydroxy)chloroquine - antimalarial - may have side-effects, possibly works on intra-cellular transport system that's hijacked by the virus for its maturation, and at least one expert I saw talking about said it has been seen before to work against viruses in cell cultures, but has yet to be proven in patients
    Host protease inhibitors - e.g. camostat - block host enzymes responsible for maturation of virus into infective stage (debate as to exactly which host enzyme does this, as it seems to differ from SARS)

    I'd have thought that antivirals might have fewer side-effects than drugs targeting host processes that the virus is hijacking, but that's a gut instinct.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,351 ✭✭✭NegativeCreep


    Cw85 wrote: »
    Never going to happen here it would destroy the economy even in the short term. I can't see too many employers allowing staff with no symptoms to be off work. Personally, I'd have no issue with my staff taking the time off if they didn't feel well but where people are taking time off in fear of contracting the virus that wouldn't sit well with me

    So you’d rather wait for your staff to get it and spread it around the office before allowing them the time off?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,662 ✭✭✭Duke of Url


    Boggles wrote: »
    45,000 active cases.

    6-8 week push, with a bit of a luck and a bit good weather and everyone doing there bit should kill it off.

    Yep. Was forgotten today on RTE that people have recovered and they kept on hashing out that 110,000 confirmed cases like nobody has recovered.

    Also a milestone today is that Serious and Critical dropped another % down to 13%

    It was 18% 6 days ago.

    62,722 have now recovered from the virus.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,306 ✭✭✭✭Drumpot


    ITman88 wrote: »
    I assure you I’m neither. A realist is more accurate.
    I’m not getting enjoyment from this I assure you.
    But I also assure you sick and vulnerable people die every day almost 80 per day in Ireland,1500 in Italy.
    We need a realistic response to this.
    The prosperous economy is ironically what has increased our life expectancy in the 1st place.
    If the economy tanks the corona virus won’t be an issue because the life expectancy will lower drastically

    Again, pure waffle. This is the equivalent to people saying “everybody is going to die from this virus”.

    The markets will go down (as they were due to anyways) and they will go back up. People will lose money but the economy will recover. This is just ridiculous, self absorbed nonsense to justify basically writing off a portion of the population for self vested reasons.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 876 ✭✭✭ITman88


    Drumpot wrote: »
    Why wouid there be no money to give them?

    And for the record, I’m a financial adviser so have an extensive understanding of the bullsh*t my industry pushes. It’s so absorbed in itself it will always find a way to recover. It’s actually quite impressive at how many within the industry, including economists and “financial experts” believe their own hype.

    These would be the same people pushing Boris and Trump to take massive gambles with peoples lives so the machine keeps moving.
    If it tanks it takes years to recover, certainly for the working class.
    You obviously didn’t suffer in 2008, and well done. Others weren’t so lucky


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,148 ✭✭✭amadangomor


    1882 wrote: »
    The Chinese... NOT a great bunch of lads.
    I always thought these type of viruses and diseases would mainly come from the African continent. But no, It's China. Damn them to hell!

    They've done far better that Europe has in containing it. No new cases outside Wuhan province today.


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