Coronavirus Part V - 34 cases in ROI, 16 in NI (as of 10 March) Read warnings in OP

cnocbui · 09-03-2020 03:20PM

Deleted User wrote: »

Outside of the body I should have meant in the open environment. For flu transmission higher humidity limits spread. Whether this applies to the coronavirus is another matter of course.

https://www.livescience.com/27533-flu-transmission-humidity.html

For the thousandth time, this is not a flu. My reasoning re Ireland's near perpetual high humidity, relates to this:

Singaporean infectious diseases expert Dr Leong Hoe Nam said the virus is likely to die when the droplets dry up.

Experts say if the virus could really survive even after the droplets carrying it have dried up, it would have spread through the air as dust particles and potentially infected 10 times more people, which is not the case.

https://www.thailandmedical.news/news/is-the-covid-19-coronavirus-capable-of-airborne-transmissions-what-is-the-real-truth

High humidity will retard the rate at which droplets dry up - if they even do at all. High humidity is likely to worsen the spread by increasing the longevity of surface contamination virus viability.

Strazdas · 09-03-2020 03:21PM

spookwoman wrote: »

https://twitter.com/rtenews/status/1237019471925186562?s=20

Problem is if you cancel parades, then you have to close everything. If an outdoor parade is "unsafe", then how can a cinema, arena, football stadium, church, bus or anything be safe?

caveat emptor · 09-03-2020 03:21PM

DVDM93 wrote: »

I fly to from Dublin to Prague on the 17th of March.

Prague to Krakow on the 19th of March.

Krakow to Dublin on the 21st of March.

What would people do it my position?

All opinions welcome, thank you.

Do our Eastern European brothers and sisters a favour and don't go there. You are more likely to spread it there than the other way around at this stage. (or at least equally)

odyssey06 · 09-03-2020 03:21PM

cherryghost wrote: »

Lads, this Italy 'quarantine' is a bit of a joke.
I have my mother-in-law and sister-in-law leaving Northern Italy on Wednesday, one to Spain, one to Dublin. Local authortiy has informed both that since they already had flights booked, and flights are not cancelled, they are permitted to leave. This is their 'special' outlier cases.
I've been asking for the mother-in-law not to come, but its a bit more complicated than 'dont come'. And so if she does, I dont want her near my pregnant wife or my toddler for a few days so I know everything is clear.
Am I being unreasonable, or is this whole situation utterly insane to be occuring the first place?

The Italians seem to be competing with the Iranians for best quarantine ever.

Perhaps suggest to your relatives that if they fall ill in Dublin, they would not be able to return to Italy...

SevenAte9 · 09-03-2020 03:22PM

Dow has dropped circa 18% since the top on February 12th and there is no sign of a bottom

Feb 12th 29,551,42
Right now: 24,527

09-03-2020 03:22PM

timmyntc wrote: »

Smart move by the Italians - let all the potentially sick people leave, wherever they end up - that country has to deal with them.

So long as there aren't any more flights IN to Italy, all is well.

in today's news anyone caught leaving the lock-down zones in Italy will face prison.

Snow Garden · 09-03-2020 03:23PM

nthclare wrote: »

Hopefully they'll come up with a vector soon to sort out this virus.

My exe was a lecturer in biochemistry, she explained a lot to me about vectors and viruses.

Its fascinating stuff, trying to figure something at a biomolecular level and find the right vehicle to kill it off or suppress it.

dan786 · 09-03-2020 03:23PM

The meeting of the special Cabinet sub-committee dealing with policy around the coronavirus has concluded.

Spokespersons from the opposition parties are being briefed and a press conference is expected to take place in Government Buildings this afternoon.

cnocbui · 09-03-2020 03:23PM

paleoperson wrote: »

So let me get this straight: most international sport is being put off.

Italy vs Ireland was put off last weekend, costing millions of euros.

Yet many Italians flocked to Ireland for the laugh anyway. Just last weekend? wtf?? And we let them in?

Do people not realize that they could be/are literally killing people by doing this?

I guess it's times like this when many people's incredible selfishness and/or idiocy really comes to light. Absolutely crazy.

Just take some vitamin C, you'll be fine. /s

branie2 · 09-03-2020 03:23PM

Yikes!

Beanybabog · 09-03-2020 03:23PM

The OH company issued updated guidelines, if you even live with anyone (ie spouse) who visited any one of list of countries you’re not to come back to office for 2 weeks. Private companies are taking this more seriously than the HSE

h0neybadger · 09-03-2020 03:23PM

https://www.corkbeo.ie/news/local-news/cork-office-block-lockdown-after-17891017

Pinch of salt reading that of course.

Ipso · 09-03-2020 03:23PM

otnomart wrote: »

The strain in Europe is the same and originates from the first patient in Germany, or Bavaria Patient 1 (shortened in BavPat1)
Reseach has established the samples from (so far) Switzerland, Finland, Italy, Brazil and Mexico are all related to Bavaria Patient 1 , who was infected by a colleague from China.
Source: https://nextstrain.org/

Hypothesis about the spreading of SARS-CoV-2 virus in Europe
Bavaria BavPat1 -> La Gomera -> Tenerife, Spain -> Italy
https://markdownshare.com/view/1fa5a...0-da1b19b7adf8

Thanks, don't have a chance to read it in detail yet but I wonder why it spread in Italy so much and not in the patients home country?

munchkin_utd · 09-03-2020 03:24PM

SevenAte9 wrote: »

Dow has dropped circa 18% since the top on February 12th and there is no sign of a bottom

Feb 12th 29,551,42
Right now: 24,527

its still up over 200% over 10 years, a somewhat better return than leaving your cash in the bank

dougm1970 · 09-03-2020 03:24PM

Deleted User wrote: »

in today's news anyone caught leaving the lock-down zones in Italy will face prison.

while iran is releasing 70,000 prisoners....due to the virus

Nijmegen · 09-03-2020 03:24PM

Strazdas wrote: »

Problem is if you cancel parades, then you have to close everything. If an outdoor parade is "unsafe", then how can a cinema, arena, football stadium, church, bus or anything be safe?

There's that penny dropping.

cnocbui · 09-03-2020 03:24PM

Strazdas wrote: »

Problem is if you cancel parades, then you have to close everything. If an outdoor parade is "unsafe", then how can a cinema, arena, football stadium, church, bus or anything be safe?

Slowly, but surely, you are beginning to see the picture.

Boggles · 09-03-2020 03:25PM

Strazdas wrote: »

Problem is if you cancel parades, then you have to close everything. If an outdoor parade is "unsafe", then how can a cinema, arena, football stadium, church, bus or anything be safe?

It's not just the outdoor part of the parade, people flock to establishments and consume afterwards, some of these consume large amounts of alcohol which results in A&E getting belted with drunk idiots.

Shutting down the parades is an absolute no brainer, why it hasn't been confirmed yet is baffling.

ThePopehimself · 09-03-2020 03:25PM

BBC. Woman from Singapore talks about being diagnosed with Covid-19 .

TAKE NOTE OF HER SYMPTOMS

Feb 3rd she has a fever, 38.2/38.5. She takes 2 panadol, feels tired and sleeps the whole day.

For the rest of the week, she feels fine. No symptoms ‘Not even a sniffle or a cough’.

February 7, at 3am she wakes up and the room is spinning – next day she is confirmed to have Covid-19.

Video :
https://www.bbc.com/news/av/world-asia-51714162/how-i-recovered-from-coronavirus-and-isolation

Strazdas · 09-03-2020 03:26PM

Nijmegen wrote: »

There's that penny dropping.

My argument is we are heading into hysterical overreaction territory. Ireland is not Bologna.

Fakediamond · 09-03-2020 03:26PM

Strazdas wrote: »

Problem is if you cancel parades, then you have to close everything. If an outdoor parade is "unsafe", then how can a cinema, arena, football stadium, church, bus or anything be safe?

Well Italian doctors are now begging people to just stay indoors and never mind social activities. Also, do not shop in crowded stores. Maybe we should start that now, before it gets out of control. I do understand that businesses will be badly affected, and I empathise with them, but I think we have to put lives before leisure at the moment.

dePeatrick · 09-03-2020 03:27PM

Strazdas wrote: »

Problem is if you cancel parades, then you have to close everything. If an outdoor parade is "unsafe", then how can a cinema, arena, football stadium, church, bus or anything be safe?

Close them, all pitches, playgrounds and parks were closed when the first case of foot and mouth arrived in NI. Why wait for the inevitable? Ireland is going to be no diferrent from Italy.

eeepaulo · 09-03-2020 03:28PM

I ordered me a deep fat fryer friday, gonna make better than E&Cs spicy buffalo wings from the food forum, heston's triple cooked chips and tom kerridges pickled onion rings.

Hector Savage · 09-03-2020 03:28PM

Supposed to go to Madrid for Easter - getting train from Barcelona.
Have rented an apartment, Im thinking train will be almost empty and if we just eat at apartment and avoid crowds should be ok ... dunno, ill keep an eye on it ..

fr336 · 09-03-2020 03:28PM

Are the 1%, 2% etc death figures we get thrown around the % of people who die after having contracted the virus, or % of the population who die from coronavirus?

Strazdas · 09-03-2020 03:28PM

Boggles wrote: »

It's not just the outdoor part of the parade, people flock to establishments and consume afterwards, some of these consume large amounts of alcohol which results in A&E getting belted with drunk idiots.

Shutting down the parades is an absolute no brainer, why it hasn't been confirmed yet is baffling.

And cinemas, restaurants, concerts, schools, offices, buses, trains......how can they possibly be safe if an outdoor parade is deemed "unsafe"?

blanch152 · 09-03-2020 03:28PM

paleoperson wrote: »

So let me get this straight: most international sport is being put off.

Italy vs Ireland was put off last weekend, costing millions of euros.

Yet many Italians flocked to Ireland for the laugh anyway. Just last weekend? wtf?? And we let them in?

Do people not realize that they could be/are literally killing people by doing this?

I guess it's times like this when many people's incredible selfishness and/or idiocy really comes to light. Absolutely crazy.

Cheltenham is still going ahead.

By your logic, all us Irish were infected by the Italians at the weekend, and anyone going to Cheltenham is equally selfish and idiotic?

Fakediamond · 09-03-2020 03:28PM

Strazdas wrote: »

My argument is we are heading into hysterical overreaction territory. Ireland is not Bologna.

You are right, we’re probably about 7/10 days behind them.

Hector Savage · 09-03-2020 03:28PM

fr336 wrote: »

Are the 1%, 2% etc death figures we get thrown around the % of people who die after having contracted the virus, or % of the population who die from coronavirus?

People who get it.

Christ if it were 2% overall there would be bedlam on the streets ... WWZ stuff...

Glenbhoy · 09-03-2020 03:29PM

Strazdas wrote: »

Indoors I imagine. French football matches went ahead this weekend (Germany too)

Psg play dortmund behind closed doors tomorrow night, so I think it's everything now.

Coronavirus Part V - 34 cases in ROI, 16 in NI (as of 10 March) *Read warnings in OP*

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Coronavirus Part V - 34 cases in ROI, 16 in NI (as of 10 March) Read warnings in OP