Working From Home Megathread

Hotblack Desiato

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122486942#Comment_122486942

Comparing just two years, one to the next, is f*ck all use really. Also note that any countries where it happened to increase year on year are conveniently left off.

"RW Blowhard In Misleading Use Of Statistics Shocker"

Jerry Atrick

Media ramping up the return to office narrative, where is the green agenda when you actually need it?

All my office staff work at home and have for a long time. I haven't seen any drop in productivity or anything like that, but I'd be very interested to know what the likes of Amazon have found that's to the contrary. I'm sure they have their reasons.

HurlingBoy

Getting people back into office is really a way of controlling the poor worker and the poor manager. A bad manager will be a bad manager weather he\she is WFH or in the office. Everyone has a reputation in a office environment. He\she is lazy, he\she is a good worker etc. It's very demoralising for a team if a manager is always working from home, even if they still do nothing in the office they have still have some visibility if they are seen. Company culture is also a contributing factor, bad managers\employees can coast for years without any consequences in certain companies and WFH is adding to this. Companies with agressive review systems will weeds out these workers quickly regardless of WFH policies. The biggest problem for companies is having the same WFH policies for everyone i.e the lazy worker and the strong performer.

Sono

Getting people back to the office full time is a sure way of trying to accelerate retirements.

Minier81

Absolutely right on the retirements. Is it a way of getting out of paying redundancies?! Just get a cohort of the staff to quit?

Cluedo Monopoly

Amazon move is a cheap redundancy play. They expect attrition as a result.

Sono

speaking from my own place, an awful lot of people in their 60’s wfh 4 days a week.

I am convinced if they were told it was 5 days a week in the office you’d see people retiring.

Cyrus

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122630030#Comment_122630030

I'm sure they have a slightly bigger dataset

Frank Bullitt

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122495737#Comment_122495737

And this would be improved in the office, would it?

Jerry Atrick

Print media really cranking up the end of WFH narrative. As usual in this country, they'll dance to whoever plays the sweetest tune.

Hotblack Desiato

Anything that generates the fear/outrage clicks

Minier81

Interesting one at the WRC for a staff member who had a full remote contract

https://m.independent.ie/irish-news/remote-working-one-day-in-the-dublin-office-each-month-is-reasonable-request-for-kerry-based-worker-tribunal-finds/a1080438526.html

AlmightyCushion

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122754702#Comment_122754702

Their reasoning for it is fairly bullshíty too.

Centric’s position was that it wanted Mr Jorge back in the office for “sound business reasons”, identifying a need to “increase the quality of communication between colleagues” and to “take account of the changing circumstances of the company”.

LambshankRedemption

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122754702#Comment_122754702

WRC dropped the ball on this one. The plaintiff possibly didnt help matters by representing himself. The focus should have been on the company ignoring the change in his contract, not his right to request remote work.

caviardreams

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122754767#Comment_122754767

Not really. The decision was based on the change in contract - the article states the WRC deemed it “a reasonable change”

LambshankRedemption

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122754998#Comment_122754998

Personally I would have contacted a contract lawyer.

caviardreams

Well the change is nowhere near enough to justify constructive dismissal IMO. So I'm not sure where else the employee could go with it. They're free to leave if they don't like the new terms and conditions, ad employers reserve some say in the work location needed by the business which can change over time.

I think a lot of employees are finding out that they really are just a fungible number to their employer and they don't hold the power and influence they might think they do.

LambshankRedemption

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122755315#Comment_122755315

Sure, but the guy says he got another job offer and a condition of him staying was he go fully remote and it was stated as such in his contract.

Then the company changed his contract.

"Theyre free to leave if they dont like the new terms and conditions". I would be advising he does just that now. I would be doing the same.

Also, Centric Medical, I shan't personally be doing any business with them in the future as it seems any contract with them is not worth the paper it is written on, figuratively speaking.