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NEW 2020 Assistant Principal Officer Competition

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  • Registered Users Posts: 39 Ap2020


    Wasn't expecting this for a few months yet. Best of luck everybody!


  • Registered Users Posts: 10,823 ✭✭✭✭ Riskymove



    Very surprised at this...there is an open AP competition ongoing at the moment. Why aren't they using that panel??


    all panels must end....the last panel was launched in 2018 so I presume would be due to end later this year.


  • Registered Users Posts: 327 ✭✭ Cheeseplant


    Riskymove wrote: »
    all panels must end....the last panel was launched in 2018 so I presume would be due to end later this year.

    From 2018 thread it seems to be in place until October 2020.. unless I imagined reading that!


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,810 ✭✭✭ Addle


    Is the current Dublin panel exhausted?


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,577 ✭✭✭ prettyboy81


    Addle wrote: »
    Is the current Dublin panel exhausted?

    No but they are on the last batch from AP 2018 competition.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 327 ✭✭ Cheeseplant


    No but they are on the last batch from AP 2018 competition.

    Any idea how many were placed over the course of thi competition?


  • Registered Users Posts: 535 ✭✭✭ Sonic_exyouth




  • Registered Users Posts: 164 ✭✭ Brera


    Best of luck to everyone applying.


    There will a large amount of retirements across the civil service after the pay increase in October, so my guess is they are trying to get ahead of the curve and have people ready to go ahead of the mass exodus.


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,810 ✭✭✭ Addle


    Any thoughts on what counties to apply for, outside of Dublin.
    I guess the cities have the biggest offices?


  • Registered Users Posts: 327 ✭✭ Cheeseplant


    Addle wrote: »
    Any thoughts on what counties to apply for, outside of Dublin.
    I guess the cities have the biggest offices?

    Laois, Kildare? Ag and Defence for sure, maybe others?


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  • Registered Users Posts: 172 ✭✭ Forthebuzz


    This is out much earlier in the year than I thought it would be


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,810 ✭✭✭ Addle


    Any opinions/info on recruitment in mayo? I’ve heard they’re always looking for heos, but never hear anything about APs.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,577 ✭✭✭ prettyboy81


    Any idea how many were placed over the course of thi competition?

    Nope sorry.


  • Registered Users Posts: 78 ✭✭✭ BMHOPE


    Addle wrote: »
    Any thoughts on what counties to apply for, outside of Dublin.
    I guess the cities have the biggest offices?


    Look at the counties that have the biggest offices for e.g Kerry for payroll shared services, limerick has biggest revenue outside Dublin, or with a few different civil services offices close to you as the larger the number the larger the chance. You can always put your preferential county down as number 1 with another for backup where there are a lot of civil servants, cause as well as retirements there could be career breaks or vacancies due to promotions. The higher the level the less that are taken off the panels unfortunately.


  • Registered Users Posts: 172 ✭✭ Forthebuzz


    Just read through the booklet there and see that stage 2 is an online interview, have they used these for AP before? I know they did for 1st sec but haven't heard of it in the open main comp before?


  • Registered Users Posts: 327 ✭✭ Cheeseplant


    Forthebuzz wrote: »
    Just read through the booklet there and see that stage 2 is an online interview, have they used these for AP before? I know they did for 1st sec but haven't heard of it in the open main comp before?

    I think they did online interviews for the lost recent AO.
    Does the booklet say they are definitely doing that or is it just one of the selection options?


  • Registered Users Posts: 281 ✭✭ MrsBean


    Forthebuzz wrote: »
    Just read through the booklet there and see that stage 2 is an online interview, have they used these for AP before? I know they did for 1st sec but haven't heard of it in the open main comp before?


    That's not what it says. It says:

    Selection Process
    The Assistant Principal selection process for this competition will comprise a number of elements. These may include one or more of the following...


    Online interviews were used for the recent AO comp for specialised streams.

    Not sure if they'll necessarily utilise the online interview, but they seem to be listing all possible elements of the comp to cover themselves. Could depend on how many numbers of applicants they're dealing with. Maybe it'll come in handy if we're all on self-isolation with covid-19 :pac:


  • Registered Users Posts: 7 ✭✭✭ adwickham


    It *is* what it says. Pages 12 and 13 of the booklet clearly state that Stage 1 of the process is the Online Assessment and Stage 2 is an Online Video Interview.


  • Registered Users Posts: 281 ✭✭ MrsBean


    Well colour me corrected!


  • Registered Users Posts: 225 ✭✭ Anonire


    Forthebuzz wrote: »
    Just read through the booklet there and see that stage 2 is an online interview, have they used these for AP before? I know they did for 1st sec but haven't heard of it in the open main comp before?

    Online interviews were used for the AP in Revenue last year.
    Sounds similar to what is described in this comp. They give you a list of questions to pre prepare and then you log in and record them on a system. In the Revenue comp it was 4 questions. This one says 3 questions.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 10,823 ✭✭✭✭ Riskymove


    They also used video interviews for PO so I think we can take it that it will be a standard for the moment


  • Registered Users Posts: 535 ✭✭✭ Sonic_exyouth


    Addle wrote: »
    Any thoughts on what counties to apply for, outside of Dublin.
    I guess the cities have the biggest offices?

    Limerick, Galway, Cork have big offices - where do you live ?


  • Registered Users Posts: 53 ✭✭ Happy4


    could someone please post a link to the booklet? I can't seem to find it.. thanks


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,810 ✭✭✭ Addle


    Limerick, Galway, Cork have big offices - where do you live ?

    I’m in the west.
    Asking for another (confident) applicant who is willing to move anywhere for the job.


  • Registered Users Posts: 164 ✭✭ Brera


    Happy4 wrote: »
    could someone please post a link to the booklet? I can't seem to find it.. thanks

    https://www.publicjobs.ie/en/?option=com_jobsearch&view=jobdetails&cid=114935&campaignId=2045902


  • Registered Users Posts: 331 ✭✭ dee75


    The application form seems a lot shorter than the 2018 one. Only 3 questions, a personal statement and any supplementary information.

    A lot to try and pack into answering those 3 questions.


  • Registered Users Posts: 172 ✭✭ Forthebuzz


    Maybe I missed it but the booklet doesn't say at which stage they will do shortlisting either does it? I know for the heo they stated it would be after stage 1 but this seems to indicate that it goes straight to online interview depending on OOM from online testing?


  • Registered Users Posts: 172 ✭✭ Forthebuzz


    dee75 wrote: »
    The application form seems a lot shorter than the 2018 one. Only 3 questions, a personal statement and any supplementary information.

    A lot to try and pack into answering those 3 questions.

    Definitely much shorter than 2018 one!

    Did you not get a placement off the last panel after scoring so well Dee??


  • Registered Users Posts: 164 ✭✭ Brera


    Forthebuzz wrote: »
    Maybe I missed it but the booklet doesn't say at which stage they will do shortlisting either does it? I know for the heo they stated it would be after stage 1 but this seems to indicate that it goes straight to online interview depending on OOM from online testing?


    I read it again and from what I can see on pages 12 and 13 your right it looks like it goes straight to the online interviews based on the OOM from the online tests.

    It doesn’t really mention shortlisting but I’m guessing it will happen after the online interviews.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 327 ✭✭ Cheeseplant


    The online interviews were used for the recent PO too weren't they? Does anyone know anyone who had experience of them? Must check through the PO thread.


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