NEW 2020 Assistant Principal Officer Competition

mariagirl

hi all, am practicing these numerical prectice tests. I cannot get any decent score. Has anyone done these before..Are the real tests on the day just as hard? I am not going to pass if they are!

PhoenixParker

Read the competition booklet cover to cover noting all the minute details

I haven't got the booklet for this comp to hand but most of the questions above are usually usually answered there. If its not, typically that's all the info theyll give anyway. It's well worth reading.

James2020App

PhoenixParker wrote: »

Read the competition booklet cover to cover noting all the minute details

I haven't got the booklet for this comp to hand but most of the questions above are usually usually answered there. If its not, typically that's all the info theyll give anyway. It's well worth reading.

On this topic, does anyone still have the PDF booklet for this competition, I stupidly did not save it, and interested in a few items on it.

griffid

James2020App wrote: »

On this topic, does anyone still have the PDF booklet for this competition, I stupidly did not save it, and interested in a few items on it.

It’s still available in the message on your publicjobs.ie account. Just download again and save.

James2020App

griffid wrote: »

It’s still available in the message on your publicjobs.ie account. Just download again and save.

Thanks I have had a look in the messages and it is not there just a reminder message to complete the application and a link to the pretests.


It also does not appear to be in the "My Applications" section neither as it only includes my online application form but not the actual booklet on the job.

griffid

James2020App wrote: »

Thanks I have had a look in the messages and it is not there just a reminder message to complete the application and a link to the pretests.


It also does not appear to be in the "My Applications" section neither as it only includes my online application form but not the actual booklet on the job.

My message says:

"As outlined to you previously, Stage 1 of the selection process will comprise aptitude tests. Pre-test information is available in the link below. You are advised to read this carefully before taking the actual tests.



http://www.publicjobs.ie/restapi/documents/2045902_Stage_1_Pre_test_Information_Booklet_Final.doc



The Actual Tests


A message will be sent to your publicjobs message board on Thursday 28th May containing a link to your actual aptitude tests. If you have not received this message by this date, you should email aprecruitment@publicjobs.ie"

I've highlighted the link to the booklet in red. Yours should be the same.

lucat

quad_red wrote: »

A friend mailed PAS asking what the pass mark was and was it correct that once the pass mark was achieved in all 3 segments (verbal, maths and situational), only the verbal score affected the OOM (as some have claimed on here).

They were told that PAS would not provide any information in how testing is scored to candidates.

So they're only using 1 of the 3 to determine the OOM? I've never heard of them doing that before. Seems odd that they wouldn't count the Situation Judgment test too. Makes me a bit apprehensive about the soft skills of the people who might get hired too!

delricyo

James2020App wrote: »

Thanks I have had a look in the messages and it is not there just a reminder message to complete the application and a link to the pretests.


It also does not appear to be in the "My Applications" section neither as it only includes my online application form but not the actual booklet on the job.

Booklet attached

James2020App

griffid wrote: »

My message says:

"As outlined to you previously, Stage 1 of the selection process will comprise aptitude tests. Pre-test information is available in the link below. You are advised to read this carefully before taking the actual tests.



http://www.publicjobs.ie/restapi/documents/2045902_Stage_1_Pre_test_Information_Booklet_Final.doc



The Actual Tests


A message will be sent to your publicjobs message board on Thursday 28th May containing a link to your actual aptitude tests. If you have not received this message by this date, you should email aprecruitment@publicjobs.ie"

I've highlighted the link to the booklet in red. Yours should be the same.

delricyo wrote: »

Booklet attached

Thanks for your help on these posts guys, much appreciated.

silverwatch

Just wondering what score in general people are getting in the practice sessions for verbal. I’m actually finding it difficult and not sure if it’s baby brain as I’m 8 months pregnant or if they are actually difficult. Can see people saying numerical is difficult but not verbal so getting worried

griffid

silverwatch wrote: »

Just wondering what score in general people are getting in the practice sessions for verbal. I’m actually finding it difficult and not sure if it’s baby brain as I’m 8 months pregnant or if they are actually difficult. Can see people saying numerical is difficult but not verbal so getting worried

When I did the verbal first I scored badly. Then I tried again but I actually read the instructions the second time. They don’t mind you making the inference from the text so while it might not specifically say something, if you can make the assumption that is acceptable.

quad_red

lucat wrote: »

So they're only using 1 of the 3 to determine the OOM? I've never heard of them doing that before. Seems odd that they wouldn't count the Situation Judgment test too. Makes me a bit apprehensive about the soft skills of the people who might get hired too!

No - I am absolutely not saying that.

I mentioned that this had been mentioned earlier in the thread. I included what I'd heard from a friend in that PAS have refused to confirm this.

Hence, I would take it that all three count for the OOM unless PAS definitely advised otherwise (and they will not).

lucat

quad_red wrote: »

No - I am absolutely not saying that.

I mentioned that this had been mentioned earlier in the thread. I included what I'd heard from a friend in that PAS have refused to confirm this.

Hence, I would take it that all three count for the OOM unless PAS definitely advised otherwise (and they will not).

I missed that in your original post, apologies.

brownbinman

45% in first try of verbal reasoning, bit of work to do before Wednesday week!

Cheeseplant

brownbinman wrote: »

45% in first try of verbal reasoning, bit of work to do before Wednesday week!

got the same on the first try and 63% on the second.. haven't tried since!

Steamer

Is there only one practice test per aptitude type on the SHL site?

Maximus_1

Wooh. Only 40% first go of verbal and I thought I had done well. 18 of 30 wrong though. Yikes.

Dublinboard

The real tests are live. Just going to do them now and enjoy the great bank holiday weather 😎

urgelgru

Did your link work? I'm not going to do it until Saturday but I just wanted to make sure it worked and ...well.. it didn't!

Pdbtsi

Looking forward to hearing how people get on! Think I will save mine for Sunday as I def need Saturday for numerical reasoning practice. Then at least I have Sunday afternoon to enjoy what's left of the weekend (no bank holiday where I am).

Would like to know if we can choose in what order to do the tests?

Aglomerado

Best of luck to all!

quad_red

Pdbtsi wrote: »

Looking forward to hearing how people get on! Think I will save mine for Sunday as I def need Saturday for numerical reasoning practice. Then at least I have Sunday afternoon to enjoy what's left of the weekend (no bank holiday where I am).

Would like to know if we can choose in what order to do the tests?

I don't think we had in the past? It was verbal, numerical and then job simulation when I did these before.

urgelgru

Not sure if anyone else will have the same problem but I got an error message when I clicked directly on the link but worked when I copied the link and opened it in another tab. Lot of guff to get through to get to the main screen.. It *Looks* like all tests are available to do i.e. you don't have to do them in order. In such cases I usually do the maths first as a warm up

shesastute

urgelgru wrote: »

Not sure if anyone else will have the same problem but I got an error message when I clicked directly on the link but worked when I copied the link and opened it in another tab. Lot of guff to get through to get to the main screen.. It *Looks* like all tests are available to do i.e. you don't have to do them in order. In such cases I usually do the maths first as a warm up

Thanks for the work around

greensoda

do you have to do the three of them in one session or can I do one today and one tomorrow?

Cheeseplant

Dublinboard wrote: »

The real tests are live. Just going to do them now and enjoy the great bank holiday weather ��

Best of luck!
Saving mine for Wednesday was the practice tests have made me feel a bit thick and I need all the practice I can get!

Cheeseplant

Maximus_1 wrote: »

Wooh. Only 40% first go of verbal and I thought I had done well. 18 of 30 wrong though. Yikes.

Same I think i got 16 right the 1st time!

Brera

Cheeseplant wrote: »

Best of luck!
Saving mine for Wednesday was the practice tests have made me feel a bit thick and I need all the practice I can get!

I’m the same. I definitely need to do more practice before Wednesday.

Best of luck everyone

Dublinboard

Just done and found them a lot easier that the practice set. Best of luck everyone and enjoy the weekend.

Orchid1

Well done on getting them out of the way quickly! And good to hear that you found them easier than the practice tests ! Still feeling nervous about the numerical, mainly the time element

Pdbtsi

Dublinboard wrote: »

Just done and found them a lot easier that the practice set. Best of luck everyone and enjoy the weekend.

That's great to hear, well done.

Nekro Man

Done.

I found them easier than the practice set too in fairness.

There's no 'submit' button at the end, once you're done and it says 'you have no more to do' it submits by itself I'm guessing?

ammg

Is there negative marking?

Orchid1

Nekro Man wrote: »

Done.

I found them easier than the practice set too in fairness.

There's no 'submit' button at the end, once you're done and it says 'you have no more to do' it submits by itself I'm guessing?[/quote

How did you find the timing?

Nekro Man

Orchid1 wrote: »

Nekro Man wrote: »

Done.

I found them easier than the practice set too in fairness.

There's no 'submit' button at the end, once you're done and it says 'you have no more to do' it submits by itself I'm guessing?[/quote

How did you find the timing?

Verbal was fine, it's the one I'm most comfortable with anyway.

I couldn't finish the numerical practice in the time allotted but I finished the actual test, admittedly skin of my teeth but I finished.

Orchid1

Nekro Man wrote: »

Orchid1 wrote: »

Verbal was fine, it's the one I'm most comfortable with anyway.

I couldn't finish the numerical practice in the time allotted but I finished the actual test, admittedly skin of my teeth but I finished.

Well done! I’m fully expecting not to be able to finish the numerical

Caip79

is it possible to login to do the practice tests then complete the main tests at another time? and can we start the main tests in any order?

Rainbowstar

My link for the tests didn't work - it re-directed me to the public jobs website.
This has never happened me before so I had to call to get link emailed and it worked fine on testing.
Just an FYI for those with limited opportunity to sit these tests in peace (no kids etc). It's worth testing before-hand.
You can just log-out once it's working.

delricyo

Rainbowstar wrote: »

My link for the tests didn't work - it re-directed me to the public jobs website.
This has never happened me before so I had to call to get link emailed and it worked fine on testing.
Just an FYI for those with limited opportunity to sit these tests in peace (no kids etc). It's worth testing before-hand.
You can just log-out once it's working.

Yeah, my link was completely wrong - but I found that if i removed the publicjobs.ie bit from the URL it brought me to the correct site

ammg

Anyone know is there negative marking? I emailed the link they sent but they sent back a response saying they don't divulge such information.

mariagirl

Hi, I think I will get the tests out of the way on Sunday. Does anyone know any good sites where I could practice? I was thinking of buying some practice tests but it's a bit late in the day now I think! The SHL practice test link issued by PAS last week in the pre test material oesnt give the answers which I really need to see to help me learn, especially in numerical. Any advice appreciated. Thanks

Caip79

job prep uk have tests specific to AP position. i signed up and you get 2 weeks i think for €40. steep but worth it imo, guides and tests very helpful

Happy4

Just finished aswell.. had a headache after it.. 100 questions on the 3rd one (albeit radio button selection.. but the amount of thinking and reading :rolleyes:)

Glad it's done now.. good luck to all.. I think I deserve a glass of wine tonight

Orchid1

Happy4 wrote: »

Just finished aswell.. had a headache after it.. 100 questions on the 3rd one (albeit radio button selection.. but the amount of thinking and reading :rolleyes:)

Glad it's done now.. good luck to all.. I think I deserve a glass of wine tonight

Well done! 100 questions for the situational judgement?! Gulp

Dublinboard

I wouldn’t bother, really quite straightforward. All done now for the weekend.

griffid

I've gotten worse at the maths. DIdn't think that was possible.

dellbell111

Hi, glad to hear people found them ok today how many questions were in each section and how much time for each section, thanks!

Brera

Caip79 wrote: »

job prep uk have tests specific to AP position. i signed up and you get 2 weeks i think for €40. steep but worth it imo, guides and tests very helpful

I had a look and all I could see was tests for AO. Do they have any tests specifically for the AP position ?

Caip79

https://www.jobtestprep.co.uk/irish-civil-service-assistant-principal-prep/

WerdnaBe

dellbell111 wrote: »

Hi, glad to hear people found them ok today how many questions were in each section and how much time for each section, thanks!

Hi All,

Did the tests yesterday evening and the questionnaire this morning.

Timing was the same as the pre-tests.

The numerical was 6 graphs/tables with 3 questions on each of them. Verbal was also 3 questions per paragraph. I found this an easier layout than the pre-tests as you got to know the info for 3 questions rather than having to decipher new information each time.

There are practise tests before each assessment if you wish to take them. DO NOT BE THROWN IF YOUR NUMERICAL PRACTISE TEST IS HARD... MY PRACTICE TEST WAS SO HARD COMPARED TO MY ACTUAL TEST!

The questionnaire gave a paragraph with 5 possible levels of effectiveness as opposed to the 2 in the pre-test.