Coronavirus Part IV - 19 cases in ROI, 7 in NI (as of 7 March) *Read warnings in OP*

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Apparently there's 14 unconfirmed cases in the Mater in Dublin..

machomac

So an update from Sydney if anyone’s interested. 60 odd cases nationwide with 2 deaths. 25 cases in NSW. I presume a good percentage of these are in Sydney. Its kind of a weird stage of 'business as usual' but expect restrictions, cancelations, closures etc to really ramp up over this weekend. They had Mardi Gras last weekend which had half a million people hugging and kissing each other so maybe that wasn’t the greatest idea. A few schools, old folks homes and childcare places closed but only those that had a confirmed case. A few business's closed for the same reason.
The numbers are interesting considering the huge amount of travel between Sydney and China. Australia host 2 million Chinese students each year. The start of the university term was third week of Feb. 10s of thousands would have travelled from China in the weeks prior to term. Sydney Uni have just set up one of their campus accommodation buildings as an isolation centre for incoming students. On top of this, 5% of the Sydney population was born in China. So considering all of this the number of cases I think is still quite low. The temperatures here have been consistently mid to high 20s for the last few weeks. A few days in the 30s on top of that. There might be a case for high temperatures slowing things down a bit. I don't know but wouldn't rule it out. Its been crazy to see people wearing face masks since November because of the fires and masks back on for this. Throw crazy storms and massive flooding in between the two and its been a rough few months for New South Wales. I'm working in a 50 floor office building in the CBD. Got an email today that one of our consultants that works on a lower floor has been in contact with a confirmed case has put himself into self isolation. So not a confirmed case but I'm wondering what happens if he does have it. Full building shut down?? Just hoping this thing calms down quickly. Take care everybody and wash yer oul hands.

Kermit.de.frog

The HSE has got 25 extra ICU beds for €20 million and are going to get more.

That's a forewarning of what they know is coming.

People are going to have to get use to changes (restrictions and the like) in everyday life that has not been experienced in the lifetimes of many in this society.

Kermit.de.frog

https://twitter.com/BNODesk/status/1235762174737473538

owlbethere

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

The HSE has got 25 extra ICU beds for €20 million and are going to get more.

That's a forewarning of what they know is coming.

People are going to have to get use to changes (restrictions and the like) in everyday life that has not been experienced in the lifetimes of many in this society.

😬

I was reading the Facebook comments on a Corona article from an Australian TV network. Many were worried and showed concern over their health system with one comment saying:

This has the potential to collapse many health systems around the world.

It's right.


As for restrictions - are we looking at world war 2 type of restrictions?

Goldengirl

dePeatrick wrote: »

I had it, I never want to go through that again, I ended up on my hands and knees in a pool of my own vomit violently dry retching...I thought 'This is it' Never want that or anything even close to it again, I was as weak as a kitten for weeks afterwards.

Had it too. The worst sore throat and such a high temp was nearly delirious, lost 24 hours in and out of consciousness. Took me 2 weeks to get back on my feet and wiped me out for a lot longer. Lost about 7 kg without trying.

Goldengirl

owlbethere wrote: »

😬

I was reading the Facebook comments on a Corona article from an Australian TV network. Many were worried and showed concern over their health system with one comment saying:

This has the potential to collapse many health systems around the world.

It's right.


As for restrictions - are we looking at world war 2 type of restrictions?

That is scary because Australia has one of the best healthcare systems in the world.

I had to laugh at one poster earlier who said if he wanted bread he would just go and buy bread!
I think the real problem is would there be any bread on the shelves? Will the Baker still be in production?
Or would the shop be even open, if everyone is sick or self isolating?

Kermit is right..things will be changing , but hopefully for a limited time and we will recover.

Kermit.de.frog

https://twitter.com/BNODesk/status/1235764694524276738

NIMAN

Brooklyn Freezing Saltine wrote: »

Apparently there's 14 unconfirmed cases in the Mater in Dublin..

When I see this word on the internet, I usually ignore most of what comes after it.

No offence poster.

Kermit.de.frog

Turkey has closed it's border with Iran.

Turkey say they have no cases. But it's with actions like this you realise that things are probably far, far worse than we are led to believe.

Erdogan thinks by his country lying or hiding information they will get by. That did not work out so well for Iran when dead people started appearing in the street so I don't see why it will work for Turkey.

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Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

Turkey has closed it's border with Iran.

Turkey says they have no cases. But it's with actions like this you realise that things are probably far, far worse than we are led to believe.

Erdogan thinks by his country lying or hiding information they will get by. That did not work out so well for Iran so I don't see why it will work for Turkey.

Not looking to be a great strategy by the HSE either. Fair dues to the newspapers and for the CUH staff jumping the gun and going to the media. It's so important that that information is out there so people can assess their own risk factor with all the current facts. Including specific counties being fecking named.

Someone please point out where we genuinely tried containment? Impossible without closing borders. I hope people look back on this and remember that if was never set in stone.
We are an island, we could of used our one major advantage

MUFC91CS

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

The HSE has got 25 extra ICU beds for €20 million and are going to get more.

That's a forewarning of what they know is coming.

People are going to have to get use to changes (restrictions and the like) in everyday life that has not been experienced in the lifetimes of many in this society.

How can you manage to make everything so incredibly negative? Most worried people whinging the HSE weren't doing anything probably would have been glad to receive an update from you reading "The HSE has got 25 extra ICU beds for €20 million and are going to get more". Instead you had to make it sound like the worst news imaginable. Would you have been more at ease if they didn't get any extra ICU beds at all?

What kind of restrictions are you referring to?

Talisman

Pencil in 32 days to recovery.

Epidemiology and Transmission of COVID-19 in Shenzhen China: Analysis of 391 cases and 1,286 of their close contacts

Ninety-one percent had mild or moderate clinical severity at initial assessment. Three have died, 225 have recovered (median time to recovery is 32 days).

Kermit.de.frog

MUFC91CS wrote: »

How can you manage to make everything so incredibly negative? Most worried people whinging the HSE weren't doing anything probably would have been glad to receive an update from you reading "The HSE has got 25 extra ICU beds for €20 million and are going to get more". Instead you had to make it sound like the worst news imaginable. Would you have been more at ease if they didn't get any extra ICU beds at all?

What kind of restrictions are you referring to?

I'm not being negative. It's clearly a good thing to secure extra beds of whatever type.

What I am saying is that things are going to get a lot worse going on the experience of other countries around the world but particularly in Europe and people may be alarmed when they see daily figures in the next few days.

The St Patrick's Day events - they are not going to happen. Large gatherings and sporting events will most likely be banned or cancelled. I expect all schools will be shut at some stage. Lock downs of "red zones" or clusters be it towns or cities will have to happen...

How people are going to react to these restrictions remains to be seen. They won't be happy.

This goes back to what I have said from the start to those saying "just the flu", "not so bad"...it's not just the virus - it's the ancillary effects that people will find difficult to accept.

That's my view anyway. I'm not being negative.

Candamir

Goldengirl wrote: »

I wouldn't say pharmacists are brave either?
I am sure Tinychancer meant frontline staff !
ie. Nurses , doctors , porters, healthcare assistants, physios.

You probably don’t know much about a hospital pharmacists job then. They have plenty of patient contact, and would be considered frontline staff. I think everyone who heads into a hospital deserves our thanks.

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The WHO situation report for 5 March still lists Ireland as having two cases.

billybonkers

Is this real?

billybonkers

billybonkers wrote: »

Is this real?

Coronavirus case identified at Trinity College Dublin
http://www.rte.ie/news/coronavirus/2020/0306/1120531-coronavirus/

Kermit.de.frog

https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2020/mar/06/coronavirus-update-latest-live-news-symptoms-cases-global-infection-rate-uk-usa-australia-italy-china-updates

South Korea calls Japan's approach to virus 'opaque' and 'passive'

The war of words over the coronavirus outbreak between South Korea appears to be escalating. Earlier we reported that Seoul had strongly protested on Friday Japan’s decision to impose a two-week quarantine for visitors from South Korea, calling it “unreasonable, excessive and extremely regrettable”.

Now Reuters is reporting that the South Korean National Security Council (NSC) has called the measures “unjust” and “unacceptable”.

The NSC said Seoul would consider countermeasures based “on principles of reciprocity”.

It also said South Korea had “transparent control over coronavirus cases, “unlike Japan’s opaque, passive policy”.

Candamir

owlbethere wrote: »

I'm thinking about todays case from cork.

There's an incubation period of 14 days after infection. So far our cases have been linked with travel from Italy. We can presume a lot of this travel occurred over the mid term break which generally came to an end for Monday 24th of February. In relation to this new case in Cork, he tested positive for Coronavirus so that would have been maybe Wednesday of this week. Giving a 14 day incubation period, that would have been about the 16/17/18th February approx when he became infected. He didn't travel abroad. This would tell me the virus has been circulating around since mid February, at least.

14 days is thought to be the outside limit for incubation, but typical incubation would be much shorter, I think I saw 2-5 days being typical.

MadYaker

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

I'm not being negative. It's clearly a good thing to secure extra beds of whatever type.

What I am saying is that things are going to get a lot worse going on the experience of other countries around the world but particularly in Europe and people may be alarmed when they see daily figures in the next few days.

The St Patrick's Day events - they are not going to happen. Large gatherings and sporting events will most likely be banned or cancelled. I expect all schools will be shut at some stage. Lock downs of "red zones" or clusters be it towns or cities will have to happen...

How people are going to react to these restrictions remains to be seen. They won't be happy.

This goes back to what I have said from the start to those saying "just the flu", "not so bad"...it's not just the virus - it's the ancillary effects that people will find difficult to accept.

That's my view anyway. I'm not being negative.

Yet another massive post of nonsense speculation in a thread full of morons. So far there’s one major cluster in Italy and you think we’re going to see multiple clusters like that in Ireland?? Why? Currently Italy is the only country experiencing any kind of restrictions and it’s only in certain areas, apart from schools and universities life goes on fairly normally. That’s how life will continue here, as normal for the vast majority.

Kermit.de.frog

MadYaker wrote: »

Yet another massive post of nonsense speculation in a thread full of morons. So far there’s one major cluster in Italy and you think we’re going to see multiple clusters like that in Ireland?? Why? Currently Italy is the only country experiencing any kind of restrictions and it’s only in certain areas, apart from schools and universities life goes on fairly normally. That’s how life will continue here, as normal for the vast majority.

Believe what you want to believe but these restrictions are coming to France, Germany, Spain (these three in the coming days) and many other countries on the continent and they are coming here too.

Best deal with it.

NIMAN

billybonkers wrote: »

Is this real?

Its on the internet, must be true.

Traumadoc

tails_naf wrote: »

The HSE are a disgrace. I know a doctor in CUH, who's colleague was literally coughed on by the person in Cork who has been confirmed, and at the time she didn't have PPE. She's not been tested or told to self isolate. With that kind of approach amongst medical staff we're fecked.

Hospitals will close due to no staff, the case in Sydney , where there was a single infected doctor, resulted in 40 staff having to isolate. Actually accelerated now to 80!
https://7news.com.au/lifestyle/health-wellbeing/more-than-80-staff-from-two-sydney-hospitals-to-self-isolate-over-coronavirus-fears-c-732340


We have no spare capacity in our healthcare system save forbanning elective work and accelerating the funding for home care packages .

Kermit.de.frog

https://twitter.com/BNODesk/status/1235773377589243904

Kermit.de.frog

https://twitter.com/ChampChong/status/1235392773378805760

Irish Guitarist

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-51761294

deisedevil

MadYaker wrote: »

Yet another massive post of nonsense speculation in a thread full of morons. So far there’s one major cluster in Italy and you think we’re going to see multiple clusters like that in Ireland?? Why? Currently Italy is the only country experiencing any kind of restrictions and it’s only in certain areas, apart from schools and universities life goes on fairly normally. That’s how life will continue here, as normal for the vast majority.

Is that why huge companies are getting employees to work from home from now on. Big pharma companies have started to get all employees who are not physically needed to be there to work from home to reduce the risk to those who have to be onsite. That's not normal at all. But it is sensible.

DOCARCH

billybonkers wrote: »

Is this real?

Apparently....on the news.