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    #2042
    Slowyourrole
    Registered Users Posts: 288 ✭✭Slowyourrole


    Clareman wrote: »
    Vaccine should be optional, if a lot of people decide not to get vacinnated it'll help sort out our pension deficit fairly quickly, I would also suggest that if anyone decides against a vaccine that they should have to pay for any costs incurred for treatment of the disease afterwards.


    They should be banned from public places.


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    #2043
    mikhail
    Registered Users Posts: 3,863 ✭✭✭mikhail


    Clareman wrote: »
    Vaccine should be optional, if a lot of people decide not to get vacinnated it'll help sort out our pension deficit fairly quickly, I would also suggest that if anyone decides against a vaccine that they should have to pay for any costs incurred for treatment of the disease afterwards.
    That'd be fine if the risk was only to themselves. Unfortunately, any vaccine is not 100% effective, and there are those who can't take them because of, e.g. compromised immune systems. Those innocent people are placed at risk from antivaccine nutters.


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    #2044
    lawred2
    Registered Users Posts: 24,297 ✭✭✭✭lawred2


    What's 'top' about him?


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    #2045
    mikhail
    Registered Users Posts: 3,863 ✭✭✭mikhail


    Harry Palmr wrote: »
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_fake_news_websites

    https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/next-news-network/

    I found this interesting too:
    In 2007, Buttar was charged by the North Carolina Board of Medical Examiners with unethical treatment of four cancer patients.[6] The panel recommended that Buttar's "license be suspended indefinitely, but that the suspension be immediately stayed".[7] In 2010 the board, in response to this and other concerns, chose to formally reprimand Buttar but allowed him to continue to practice.[2][8]
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rashid_Buttar

    "Top doctor", my ass.


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    #2046
    lawred2
    Registered Users Posts: 24,297 ✭✭✭✭lawred2


    This is the type of moronic drivel that my mother in law keeps sharing with us. Without questioning for a second..

    Definitely a sign of early onset dementia for me


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    #2047
    Mister Vain
    Registered Users Posts: 6,045 ✭✭✭Mister Vain


    lawred2 wrote: »
    What's 'top' about him?
    Did you listen to the introduction?


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    #2048
    Danno
    Registered Users Posts: 8,913 ✭✭✭Danno


    Slowyourrole wrote: »
    They should be banned from public places.

    My body, my choice. ;)


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    #2049
    FFVII
    Registered Users Posts: 1,382 ✭✭✭FFVII


    Harry Palmr wrote: »
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_fake_news_websites

    https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/next-news-network/


    So what network does it have to be on?


    mikhail wrote: »
    I found this interesting too:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rashid_Buttar

    "Top doctor", my ass.
    If you cant be arsed to press play and watch a minute then don't comment.




    It really is getting to be painful reading comments from you sheep on here.


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    #2050
    Allinall
    Registered Users Posts: 6,587 ✭✭✭Allinall


    Danno wrote: »
    My body, my choice. ;)

    And I'll use the freedom I have with my body to punch you in the nose. :pac:


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    #2051
    Mister Vain
    Registered Users Posts: 6,045 ✭✭✭Mister Vain


    It's not just Dr Buttar who is calling it out.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6C_26ZIUlrQ




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    #2052
    FFVII
    Registered Users Posts: 1,382 ✭✭✭FFVII


    Clareman wrote: »
    Vaccine should be optional, if a lot of people decide not to get vacinnated it'll help sort out our pension deficit fairly quickly, I would also suggest that if anyone decides against a vaccine that they should have to pay for any costs incurred for treatment of the disease afterwards.
    What disease?
    lawred2 wrote: »
    Without questioning for a second..
    Exactly. You question nothing. Sheep.


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    #2053
    Tokyo
    Politics Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 22,655 Mod ✭✭✭✭Tokyo


    Mod: Moved to Conspiracy Theories. xl9hyAS.gif


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    #2054
    FFVII
    Registered Users Posts: 1,382 ✭✭✭FFVII


    mike_ie wrote: »
    Mod: Moved to Conspiracy Theories. xl9hyAS.gif
    What part is a conspiracy?


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    #2055
    Guy:Incognito
    Registered Users Posts: 38,247 ✭✭✭✭Guy:Incognito


    FFVII wrote: »
    What disease?

    Exactly. You question nothing. Sheep.

    You're refusing to even entertain the questioning of the guy making the claims.

    FFS. Thought you lot were all about "truth".

    Par for the course though , "always question MSM and dont believe anything they (or this list of other people I will provide you with) say" , but unquestionably believe these people that say the things I like. It's funny calling other people sheep while swallowing whatever is approved by certain online communities who think they know the truth.

    Ive no idea about the guy in the video but dont try to be all superior because you dont believe official information but will believe anything that contradicts it.


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    #2056
    Harry Palmr
    Closed Accounts Posts: 40,061 ✭✭✭✭Harry Palmr


    Sheep = 100% BS approved.


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    #2057
    Mister Vain
    Registered Users Posts: 6,045 ✭✭✭Mister Vain


    FFVII wrote: »
    What part is a conspiracy?
    I guess if you try to even question the official narrative you're now a conspiracy theorist.


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    #2058
    Ipso
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,995 ✭✭✭Ipso


    What is he is called out by a Top doctor?


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    #2059
    Ipso
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,995 ✭✭✭Ipso


    Mister Vain wrote: »
    I guess if you try to even question the official narrative you're now a conspiracy theorist.

    Bill Gates is a lightning rod for the tin foily challenged, dig deep enough and you’ll be immersed in sheep sh1t.


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    #2060
    Cheerful Spring2
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,705 ✭✭✭Cheerful Spring2


    splashuum wrote: »
    Apparently stating facts is now labelled as propagating conspiracies hence why I have to post here instead of the C-19 main forum.:confused:

    Many people seem to be changing their stance on the true origin of Covid-19.
    A recent U.S. Defence Intelligence report, dated March 27 and corroborated by two U.S. officials, reveals that U.S. intelligence revised its January assessment in to now include the possibility that the new coronavirus emerged "accidentally" in Wuhan due to "unsafe laboratory practices".
    Personally this doesn't come as a surprise.
    The Wuhan lab received funding to do some questionable research, including $200 million for the international program called PREDICT, Some of this research involves taking deadly viruses and enhancing their ability to spread quickly through a population—research that took place over the objections of hundreds of scientists, who have warned for years of the program's potential to cause a pandemic.

    Interestingly enough a tweeted report from 2015 article explains how the Wuhan virology lab was testing a "bat" based coronavirus. I think its far more likely at this stage that the virus came from the Wuhan lab rather than some wet market.

    https://twitter.com/naturenews/status/666158895149264897?s=21&fbclid=IwAR25DKbdJV5FuJIxajl8EildQmMA6niys3JMhoRY0uTSQbIQaZ1C-b5oAwQ

    Looks like the conspiracy folks are right again :) Trump says he saw evidence the virus came from the Lab in China. Now we wait, to see this new evidence.



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    #2061
    Dohnjoe
    Registered Users Posts: 17,802 ✭✭✭✭Dohnjoe


    Mister Vain wrote: »
    I guess if you try to even question the official narrative you're now a conspiracy theorist.

    Right, but you questioned the Youtube video you posted in which the doctor claims that Covid19 isn't real..

    And the fact that the Youtube channel takes people like David Icke seriously, a man who believes reptiles run the world..


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    #2062
    Dohnjoe
    Registered Users Posts: 17,802 ✭✭✭✭Dohnjoe


    Cheerful Spring2 wrote: »
    Looks like the conspiracy folks are right again :) Trump says he saw evidence the virus came from the Lab in China. Now we wait, to see this new evidence.

    Except that the US intelligence community is now stating that it looks like it wasn't man-made..

    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-52496098
    The US intelligence community has determined Covid-19 "was not manmade or genetically modified", though it is still investigating the virus' origins.

    The National Intelligence chief's office said agencies are looking into whether the outbreak began from animal contact or a laboratory accident.

    President Donald Trump later suggested he had seen evidence the virus came out of a Chinese laboratory.


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    #2063
    Cheerful Spring2
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,705 ✭✭✭Cheerful Spring2


    Dohnjoe wrote: »
    Except that the US intelligence community is now stating that it looks like it wasn't man-made..

    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-52496098

    You believe US intelligence :D Trump likely saw evidence and then leaked it. His known for leaking classified information. US intelligence does not want the Wuhan lab to be investigated because it will link back to Fort Detrick.
    US intelligence will spin facts they don't provide the public with real information.


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    #2064
    Ipso
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,995 ✭✭✭Ipso


    Well if the pathological liar says so.


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    #2065
    Dohnjoe
    Registered Users Posts: 17,802 ✭✭✭✭Dohnjoe


    Cheerful Spring2 wrote: »
    You believe US intelligence

    Over Trump? of course. US intelligence is based on scientific consensus.
    Trump likely saw evidence

    He saw a political opportunity to attack China, he doesn't give a damn about the truth. He was on a few days ago suggesting people ingest or inject bleach.


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    #2066
    Cheerful Spring2
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,705 ✭✭✭Cheerful Spring2


    Dohnjoe wrote: »
    Over Trump? of course. US intelligence is based on scientific consensus.



    He saw a political opportunity to attack China, he doesn't give a damn about the truth. He was on a few days ago suggesting people ingest or inject bleach.

    The US National Institutes of Health, a government agency, awarded a $3.7million research grant to the Wuhan Institute of Virology
    The lab is the center of several conspiracy theories that suggest it is the original source of the coronavirus outbreak
    The institute experimented on bats from the source of the coronavirus
    They were captured more than 1,000 miles away in Yunnan
    Sequencing of the Covid-19 genome has traced it to bats to Yunnan's caves
    The U.S. government funded research on coronavirus transmission in the lab over the past decade

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8211291/U-S-government-gave-3-7million-grant-Wuhan-lab-experimented-coronavirus-source-bats.html

    The Key points are above. US Scientists funded this virus research in Wuhan. US neck deep in it and that don't want thier involvement investigated.


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    #2067
    Dohnjoe
    Registered Users Posts: 17,802 ✭✭✭✭Dohnjoe


    Cheerful Spring2 wrote: »
    The US National Institutes of Health, a government agency, awarded a $3.7million research grant to the Wuhan Institute of Virology
    The lab is the center of several conspiracy theories that suggest it is the original source of the coronavirus outbreak
    The institute experimented on bats from the source of the coronavirus
    They were captured more than 1,000 miles away in Yunnan
    Sequencing of the Covid-19 genome has traced it to bats to Yunnan's caves
    The U.S. government funded research on coronavirus transmission in the lab over the past decade

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8211291/U-S-government-gave-3-7million-grant-Wuhan-lab-experimented-coronavirus-source-bats.html

    The Key points are above. US Scientists funded this virus research in Wuhan. US neck deep in it and that don't want thier involvement investigated.

    Current scientific consensus is transmission from animals rather than man-made origin


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    #2068
    Ipso
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,995 ✭✭✭Ipso


    Cheerful Spring2 wrote: »
    The US National Institutes of Health, a government agency, awarded a $3.7million research grant to the Wuhan Institute of Virology
    The lab is the center of several conspiracy theories that suggest it is the original source of the coronavirus outbreak
    The institute experimented on bats from the source of the coronavirus
    They were captured more than 1,000 miles away in Yunnan
    Sequencing of the Covid-19 genome has traced it to bats to Yunnan's caves
    The U.S. government funded research on coronavirus transmission in the lab over the past decade

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8211291/U-S-government-gave-3-7million-grant-Wuhan-lab-experimented-coronavirus-source-bats.html

    The Key points are above. US Scientists funded this virus research in Wuhan. US neck deep in it and that don't want thier involvement investigated.

    US don’t want their involvement made public, so Trump says it’s man made.


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    #2069
    King Mob
    Registered Users Posts: 25,229 ✭✭✭✭King Mob


    Cheerful Spring2 wrote: »
    The lab is the center of several conspiracy theories that suggest it is the original source of the coronavirus outbreak
    The institute experimented on bats from the source of the coronavirus
    They were captured more than 1,000 miles away in Yunnan
    Sequencing of the Covid-19 genome has traced it to bats to Yunnan's caves
    So the article says the virus isn't man made...
    Is it lying there?


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    #2070
    ohnonotgmail
    Registered Users Posts: 40,284 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    Cheerful Spring2 wrote: »
    You believe US intelligence :D Trump likely saw evidence and then leaked it. His known for leaking classified information. US intelligence does not want the Wuhan lab to be investigated because it will link back to Fort Detrick.
    US intelligence will spin facts they don't provide the public with real information.
    you believe trump?


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    #2071
    Hoop66
    Registered Users Posts: 2,310 ✭✭✭Hoop66


    Cheerful Spring2 wrote: »
    You believe US intelligence :D Trump likely saw evidence and then leaked it. His known for leaking classified information. US intelligence does not want the Wuhan lab to be investigated because it will link back to Fort Detrick.
    US intelligence will spin facts they don't provide the public with real information.

    But in this case you believe Trump? Who got his "intelligence" from?


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