FG to just do nothing for the next 5 years.

satguy

markodaly wrote: »

This is hilarious, it was the OP, Satguy, a self confessed FF voter /

Never again, it turns out a vote for FF is just a vote for FG,, if the last two GE's are anything to go by.

And if this makes me grumpy,, I can only imagine how the FF backbenchers feel.

markodaly

satguy wrote: »

markodaly wrote: »

This is hilarious, it was the OP, Satguy, a self confessed FF voter /

Never again, it turns out a vote for FF is just a vote for FG,, if the last two GE's are anything to go by.

And if this makes me grumpy,, I can only imagine how the FF backbenchers feel.

Do you still think your beloved FF will outpoll FG in an election?

James Brown

markodaly wrote: »

Do you still think your beloved FF will outpoll FG in an election?

Can I ask what your point is? You want to know if FF will get more votes than FG again? If theres a veiled insult here just save us all the suspense.

markodaly

Bowie wrote: »

Can I ask what your point is? You want to know if FF will get more votes than FG again? If theres a veiled insult here just save us all the suspense.

My post wasnt directed at you. Tbh, this extra attention from you is getting abit weird.
If you want to discuss, PM me

Muahahaha

RandomViewer wrote: »

The Battersea power station sale will come under scrutiny again as will the sale a few weeks ago to Ronan and the bankrupt Americans

That sale of Battersea by NAMA was an absolute joke. It was the jewel in NAMAs crown and they let it go for a song of £400m. It was a city centre site right on the south bank of the river Thames with planning permission already having been granted for 4,000 apartments, loads of office and retail space and a new underground Tube station beneath it.

After the sale for a paltry £400m a London hedge fund manager who made his fortune in property came out and labelled it "the deal of the century". He wasnt wrong either, the Malaysian investors who bought it more or less immediately sold out phase 1 with £750m worth of apartments sold off the plans without even putting a shovel in the ground. Phase 2 sold out in 4 days for £650m. The demand to live there was off the scale, billionaires were competing with each other to get a foothold on the best apartments.

Im familiar with it a bit as a mate is a senior project manager on the site for almost four years now and he brought me inside the power station for a gander a couple of years ago. Since then I know Niall Horan bought an apartment paying several million for a unit that is nowhere near the top floors. In one block a Saudi royal family came in carte blanche bought every apartment they could on the top floors, prices paid were £8m to £10m per unit and even more if they were the ones designed by Sir Norman Foster and Frank Gehry. They lie empty most of the year until some crown prince decides to bring 50 of his family members on a shopping trip to London. Another block has a bunch of Chinese billionaires using it as their London bolthole. Vast swathes of office space are also in the development and Apple is the main tenant with 1,500 Apple staff due to move in to their new London HQ next year. When all the construction phases are finished around 2025 they project total sales of circa £10bn.

And NAMA sold that jewel in their crown off for a paltry £400m. Even if they had just have sat on the site for a few years and done nothing whatsoever they would have achieve a far better price than £400m. It was an absolute farce of a transaction by NAMA letting that go for a snip. It is the biggest building site of any major city in Europe, 42 acres of prime London land in the city centre and NAMA let it go for next to nothing and the Irish taxpayer is left paying for their incompetence. And this all happened under the Minister for Finance Michael Noonan. Him, NAMA and the taxpayer were absolutely rinsed on that deal.

smurgen

Muahahaha wrote: »

That sale of Battersea by NAMA was an absolute joke. It was the jewel in NAMAs crown and they let it go for a song of £400m. It was a city centre site right on the south bank of the river Thames with planning permission already having been granted for 4,000 apartments, loads of office and retail space and a new underground Tube station beneath it.

After the sale for a paltry £400m a London hedge fund manager who made his fortune in property came out and labelled it "the deal of the century". He wasnt wrong either, the Malaysian investors who bought it more or less immediately sold out phase 1 with £750m worth of apartments sold off the plans without even putting a shovel in the ground. Phase 2 sold out in 4 days for £650m. The demand to live there was off the scale, billionaires were competing with each other to get a foothold on the best apartments.

Im familiar with it a bit as a mate is a senior project manager on the site for almost four years now and he brought me inside the power station for a gander a couple of years ago. Since then I know Niall Horan bought an apartment paying several million for a unit that is nowhere near the top floors. In one block a Saudi royal family came in carte blanche bought every apartment they could on the top floors, prices paid were £8m to £10m per unit and even more if they were the ones designed by Sir Norman Foster and Frank Gehry. They lie empty most of the year until some crown prince decides to bring 50 of his family members on a shopping trip to London. Another block has a bunch of Chinese billionaires using it as their London bolthole. Vast swathes of office space are also in the development and Apple is the main tenant with 1,500 Apple staff due to move in to their new London HQ next year. When all the construction phases are finished around 2025 they project total sales of circa £10bn.

And NAMA sold that jewel in their crown off for a paltry £400m. Even if they had just have sat on the site for a few years and done nothing whatsoever they would have achieve a far better price than £400m. It was an absolute farce of a transaction by NAMA letting that go for a snip. It is the biggest building site of any major city in Europe, 42 acres of prime London land in the city centre and NAMA let it go for next to nothing and the Irish taxpayer is left paying for their incompetence. And this all happened under the Minister for Finance Michael Noonan. Him, NAMA and the taxpayer were absolutely rinsed on that deal.

But but but FG are the brightest and bestest? Surely developers didn't run rings around them and NAMA at a massive cost to the tax payer?!

James Brown

smurgen wrote: »

But but but FG are the brightest and bestest? Surely developers didn't run rings around them and NAMA at a massive cost to the tax payer?!

It's funny that isn't it? Being the law and order party it must be down to complete incompetence.

NovemberWren

never knew things were so bonkers in Letterkenny. such a good video on youtube:

https://www.bing.com/search?q=Siol na Eireann Protest Pearse Doherty on baby murdering

Siol na Eireann Protest Pearse Doherty on baby murdering!

now, that, - really is a protest.

Muahahaha

NovemberWren wrote: »

never knew things were so bonkers in Letterkenny. such a good video on youtube:

https://www.bing.com/search?q=Siol na Eireann Protest Pearse Doherty on baby murdering

Siol na Eireann Protest Pearse Doherty on baby murdering!

now, that, - really is a protest.

What has Pearse Doherty got to do with a thread on Fine Gael ?

IAMAMORON

NovemberWren wrote: »

never knew things were so bonkers in Letterkenny. such a good video on youtube:

https://www.bing.com/search?q=Siol na Eireann Protest Pearse Doherty on baby murdering

Siol na Eireann Protest Pearse Doherty on baby murdering!

now, that, - really is a protest.

Niall McConnell genuinely scares me, he is frighteningly vacuous. He believes his own tripe, it is terrifying.

Brendan Bendar

Muahahaha wrote: »

What has Pearse Doherty got to do with a thread on Fine Gael ?

Supposed to be an opposition dude?

smurgen

Imagine Leo could send revenue officers to the airport to check for PUP travellers but couldn't send inspectors the the meat factories to ensure Covid preparedness?

McMurphy

smurgen wrote: »

Imagine Leo could send revenue officers to the airport to check for PUP travellers but couldn't send inspectors the the meat factories to ensure Covid preparedness?

Yep, yet another example of the cart before the horse.

Meanwhile, Kildare, Laois and Offaly are in lockdown part 2, despite planeloads from everywhere landing in the country on a daily basis, and also despite Leo and chums telling us localised easing of restrictions would be impossible, yet localised lockdowns are no bother at all.

It's make it up as you go along stuff.

smurgen

Varadkar lying yet again. Saying that the lockdown in New Zealand failed that they had new cases every day. Compulsive liar of a man.

Speaking to Newstalk:

""The objective was to flatten the curve, suppress the virus, it was never to eliminate the virus. New Zealand thought they'd done that and they haven't - they now have new cases every day."

https://www.irishmirror.ie/news/irish-news/health-news/coronavirus-airbourne-travel-ireland-america-22353169

The reality

https://twitter.com/FergalBowers/status/1292395106717306885?s=19

markodaly

smurgen wrote: »

Varadkar lying yet again. Saying that the lockdown in New Zealand failed that they had new cases every day. Compulsive liar of a man.

When did Leo say the NZ lockdown 'failed'?
Link please?

smurgen

markodaly wrote: »

When did Leo say the NZ lockdown 'failed'?
Link please?

He said there was new cases everyday. That has now been proven false. He lied.

markodaly

McMurphy wrote: »

Yep, yet another example of the cart before the horse.

Meanwhile, Kildare, Laois and Offaly are in lockdown part 2, despite planeloads from everywhere landing in the country on a daily basis, and also despite Leo and chums telling us localised easing of restrictions would be impossible, yet localised lockdowns are no bother at all.

It's make it up as you go along stuff.

If we are going to lockdown borders, do you think we should include NI in that?

markodaly

smurgen wrote: »

He said there was new cases everyday. That has now been proven false. He lied.

Link please...

RandomViewer

IAMAMORON wrote: »

Niall McConnell genuinely scares me, he is frighteningly vacuous. He believes his own tripe, it is terrifying.

FG gene pool, grand uncle and cousin were FG councillors,

IAMAMORON

RandomViewer wrote: »

FG gene pool, grand uncle and cousin were FG councillors,

You terrify me now, waaaaay to much information.

McMurphy

markodaly wrote: »

Link please...

Leo Varadkar wrote:

"The objective was to flatten the curve, suppress the virus... it was never to eliminate the virus. New Zealand thought they'd done that, and they haven't - they now have new cases every day.

link

That was on the 14th of July, which was 26 days ago.

Meanwhile.....

New Zealand marks 100 days without a case of coronavirus

So Leo made a statement that new Zealand were having new cases everyday, despite (by my maths) they had been 74 days without a new case on July 14th.

Now what?

Muahahaha

Reports coming out now that thousands of migrant workers in meat plants are not paying any tax or PRSI in Ireland but through a company in Poland instead. This also saves the meat plant owners from having to paying employers PRSI to the exchequer. What is it Fine Gael like to say- "Ireland is the best small country in the world in which to do business". It certainly fcuking is when you can have thousands of workers on Irish soil not paying a bean into our tax system and the meat plants owners dodging PRSI.

Fine Gael have been in power since 2011 so they knew well this was going on and did nothing about it They literally allowed meat plant owners to hollow out our tax base all the while Irish taxpayers were pinned to the wall with USC.

https://www.oceanfm.ie/2020/07/30/questions-over-how-meat-factories-recruit-and-employ-foreign-workers/

James Brown

Muahahaha wrote: »

Reports coming out now that thousands of migrant workers in meat plants are not paying any tax or PRSI in Ireland but through a company in Poland instead. This also saves the meat plant owners from having to paying employers PRSI to the exchequer. What is it Fine Gael like to say- "Ireland is the best small country in the world in which to do business". It certainly fcuking is when you can have thousands of workers on Irish soil not paying a bean into our tax system and the meat plants owners dodging PRSI.

Fine Gael have been in power since 2011 so they knew well this was going on and did nothing about it They literally allowed meat plant owners to hollow out our tax base all the while Irish taxpayers were pinned to the wall with USC.

https://www.oceanfm.ie/2020/07/30/questions-over-how-meat-factories-recruit-and-employ-foreign-workers/

I always took 'great little country to do business' or whatever was a pitch to the business world not a positive for the working tax payer.

Well there goes the myth of soft touch on big business always equating to jobs and taxes.

McMurphy

Bowie wrote: »

I always took 'great little country to do business' or whatever was a pitch to the business world not a positive for the working tax payer.

Well there goes the myth of soft touch on big business always equating to jobs and taxes.

Tbf, these meat processing plants sound like right shìtholes to be working in, cramped, no sick pay etc, having to pay for your own PPE, what did they expect was going to happen?

This article makes the place sound hellish tbh.

https://amp.theguardian.com/environment/2020/may/14/everyones-on-top-of-you-sneezing-and-coughing-life-inside-irelands-meat-plants-covid-19?CMP=Share_AndroidApp_Tweet&__twitter_impression=true

Let this bit sink in.

“One hundred per cent, I know I got it in the factory,” he says. “If the disease was in the animals, they’d have closed the place. But for workers, the factories can do what they want.”

James Brown

McMurphy wrote: »

Tbf, these meat processing plants sound like right shìtholes to be working in, cramped, no sick pay etc, having to pay for your own PPE, what did they expect was going to happen?

This article makes the place sound hellish tbh.

https://amp.theguardian.com/environment/2020/may/14/everyones-on-top-of-you-sneezing-and-coughing-life-inside-irelands-meat-plants-covid-19?CMP=Share_AndroidApp_Tweet&__twitter_impression=true

Let this bit sink in.

One of thsee meat magnets supplies beds and treatment for Covid overflow. Doesn't bear thinking about.

markodaly

McMurphy wrote: »

link

That was on the 14th of July, which was 26 days ago.

Yes, and in those 26 days they have reported, 27 new Covid-19 cases.
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/new-zealand/

So Leo made a statement that new Zealand were having new cases everyday, despite (by my maths) they had been 74 days without a new case on July 14th.

Now what?

They reported 1 case on the 14th of July and 2 cases on the 15th of July.. and so on and on....

You didnt answer the question, do you think we should close the border to NI, like NZ would have if it had a land border with another country.

Yes/No please.

markodaly

Muahahaha wrote: »

Reports coming out now that thousands of migrant workers in meat plants are not paying any tax or PRSI in Ireland but through a company in Poland instead. This also saves the meat plant owners from having to paying employers PRSI to the exchequer. What is it Fine Gael like to say- "Ireland is the best small country in the world in which to do business". It certainly fcuking is when you can have thousands of workers on Irish soil not paying a bean into our tax system and the meat plants owners dodging PRSI.

Fine Gael have been in power since 2011 so they knew well this was going on and did nothing about it They literally allowed meat plant owners to hollow out our tax base all the while Irish taxpayers were pinned to the wall with USC.

https://www.oceanfm.ie/2020/07/30/questions-over-how-meat-factories-recruit-and-employ-foreign-workers/

If these 'reports' are true or not, 40% odd of workers pay no income tax anyway. I hope the opposition rebalances this! :P

Yurt2

markodaly wrote: »

If these 'reports' are true or not, 40% odd of workers pay no income tax anyway. I hope the opposition rebalances this! :P

Why the need for the quotation marks on 'reports'? Why are you soft-peddling shocking behavior on the part of the meat plants? You'd think people across the political spectrum would abhor practices like this.

McMurphy

McMurphy wrote: »

link

That was on the 14th of July, which was 26 days ago.

Meanwhile.....

New Zealand marks 100 days without a case of coronavirus

So Leo made a statement that new Zealand were having new cases everyday, despite (by my maths) they had been 74 days without a new case on July 14th.

Now what?

Lol.....imagine trying to convince people,that wasnt a lie

James Brown

Yurt! wrote: »

Why the need for the quotation marks on 'reports'? Why are you soft-peddling shocking behavior on the part of the meat plants? You'd think people across the political spectrum would abhor practices like this.

It's more brand loyalty than politics.