After Hours Election 2020 poll

Duke of Url

So where will your votes be going in the upcoming Election?

optogirl

Where's the poll?

Sky King

Duke of Url wrote: »

So where will your votes be going in the upcoming Election?

In the ballot box

Duke of Url

Maybe a mod can fix FF and SF due to the fada issue in the poll

EmmetSpiceland

Does anyone know if Deirdre McMorrow is “running”? Really enjoyed her posters in the last one.

Not my constituency and my “memory” isn’t short enough to vote FF but she’s still a cracker.

Duke of Url

I will be voting for James Lawless who is FF and I guy I respect.

Arghus

It's tough to decide. Everyone is different degrees of useless

I'm not a big fan of FG, they strike me a pompous and aloof, more interested in delivering "the message" than actually delivering. Everything feels without substance and I always detect an element of condescension and self righteousness with them. I don't think they genuinely care about people less well off then themselves.

FF are disengenous gombeens who bankrupt the country and now are hoping that no-one remembers that. So no. No forever and ever from me. Even though I think they might have marginally more compassion and empathy than the other crowd, but that isn't saying much. They're just intellectually inept.

SF are the ultimate hurlers on the ditch. Who can say and promise anything because they know they'll never be held to account. I'd nearly vote Sinn Féin, but I don't believe a word they say and I still get the whiff of cordite off them.

I feel sorry for Labour. I think they mean well and I can't argue with a lot of what they say, but they're uninspiring bunch. I reckon they'll get wiped out.

And the rest are the rest.

Earthhorse

We have ranked choice voting and didn't make the poll multiple choice?

Bobblehats

Drain the bog!

Duke of Url

Earthhorse wrote: »

We have ranked choice voting and didn't make the poll multiple choice?

I guess a mod could change it if its the way to do it. I cant change it

Bobblehats

Earthhorse wrote: »

We have ranked choice voting and didn't make the poll multiple choice?

There’s a multiple choice at the bottom. Aka anyone but those cnuts

Obvious Desperate Breakfasts

Arghus wrote: »

It's tough to decide. Everyone is different degrees of useless

I'm not a big fan of FG, they strike me a pompous and aloof, more interested in delivering "the message" than actually delivering. Everything feels without substance and I always detect an element of condescension and self righteousness with them. I don't think they genuinely care about people less well off then themselves.

FF are disengenous gombeens who bankrupt the country and now are hoping that no-one remembers that. So no. No forever and ever from me. Even though I think they might have marginally more compassion and empathy than the other crowd, but that isn't saying much. They're just intellectually inept.

SF are the ultimate hurlers on the ditch. Who can say and promise anything because they know they'll never be held to account. I'd nearly vote Sinn Féin, but I don't believe a word they say and I still get the whiff of cordite off them.

I feel sorry for Labour. I think they mean well and I can't argue with a lot of what they say, but they're uninspiring bunch. I reckon they'll get wiped out.

And the rest are the rest.

:eek:

Signore Fancy Pants

"None of the above".

Duke of Url

Signore Fancy Pants wrote: »

"None of the above".

So you’re not voting?

Marhay70

With the numbers intending to vote Fine Gael I might have to vote Fianna Fáil to compete, problem is I would then have to kill myself. As for those intending to vote Green, get a fcuking grip,

Kivaro

I know it's early stages, but good to see Inds/Others winning this poll.
If enough of them get elected, it could see the formation of a party that represents the majority of working/former workers/contributing/law abiding citizens of this country.

Arghus

Kivaro wrote: »

I know it's early stages, but good to see Inds/Others winning this poll.
If enough of them get elected, it could see the formation of a party that represents the majority of working/former workers/contributing/law abiding citizens of this country.

In reality they'd squabble amongst themselves and almost nothing would get done.

Kivaro

Arghus wrote: »

In reality they'd squabble amongst themselves and almost nothing would get done.

You mean, like the current FG/FF coalition.
I'd take that risk.

Necro

Kivaro wrote: »

I know it's early stages, but good to see Inds/Others winning this poll.
If enough of them get elected, it could see the formation of a party that represents the majority of working/former workers/contributing/law abiding citizens of this country.

You're having a giraffe right?

Most Independents elected are subscribed to parish pump politics and don't give two hoots about national issues.

Or they wind up like Shane Ross.
Wasting a vote imo going Independent.

New party my eye :pac:

Eggs For Dinner

My take on it

FG are incompetent
FF are crooks (still)
SF will always be scum of the highest order
Green Party make it up as they go along
Labour are not Labour
PBF, Aontu etc not living in the real world, but sure the do no harm and it's good for them to get out in the fresh air.
Independents can promise whatever they like and hope their seat/principles can be bought by a minority party looking to form a government, which is fair enough.

GLaDOS

I'll vote Green if it pisses off the farmers who doubled my commuting time today

The Rape of Lucretia

The sensible option is best candidate in your offering from FF/FG/Lab/Grn. And certainly to use all top number on these four parties.

Which have a very comfortable majority showing that Ireland is happy with the politics this group (being essentially indistinguishable politically - its just what colour or personality do you prefer) presents.

That 24% are wasting their votes on independents though is troubling, and is becoming increasingly reckless and problematic for good governance of the country.

And that 13% might vote SF is remains an even greater embarrassement for Ireland, even if a porttion of them can be considered to be more part of the Independent mindset who are having their tantrum in an even worse mannerm exposing the low morals of a not insignificant minority of the country.

The Rape of Lucretia

The Rape of Lucretia wrote: »

The sensible option is best candidate in your offering from FF/FG/Lab/Grn. And certainly to use all top number on these four parties.

Which have a very comfortable majority showing that Ireland is happy with the politics this group (being essentially indistinguishable politically - its just what colour or personality do you prefer) presents.

That 24% are wasting their votes on independents though is troubling, and is becoming increasingly reckless and problematic for good governance of the country.

And that 13% might vote SF is remains an even greater embarrassement for Ireland, even if a porttion of them can be considered to be more part of the Independent mindset who are having their tantrum in an even worse mannerm exposing the low morals of a not insignificant minority of the country.

Thanks for the lesson in upstanding morality. I'll have to tattoo it on my backside.

JohnnyFlash

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Thanks for the lesson in upstanding morality. I'll have to tattoo it on my backside.

You’ll hardly be able to read it from there, dude.

The Rape of Lucretia

Necro wrote: »

You're having a giraffe right?

Most Independents elected are subscribed to parish pump politics and don't give two hoots about national issues.

Or they wind up like Shane Ross.
Wasting a vote imo going Independent.

New party my eye :pac:

They are opportunists and snake oil merchants. It was tolerable when there was only a handful of them, but the virus has propogated over the last couple of elections and they are now causing a serious distortion in parliamentary numbers. Neither fit to govern, no coordinated enough to be an opposition, it effectively is a subtraction from the 158 TDs to 20 or so less. Risking hung parliaments. The upside is that with the death of the old FF/FG sworn-enemy dynamic and them being able to work together, with the correct coalition, we could end up with a numerically strong coalition government (albeit with the undercurrent of petty interparty rivalry) with effectively no opposition - there being only a rag tag bag of independents in that role, who are really little more than late night chatshow fuel.

Agricola

Ill give FF a vote. Let's face it, theres nothing between them and FG. Anyone that thinks FG is the party of prudence and bean counting and is the only option for safeguarding "the recovery" is in cloud cuckoo land. They were goading the FF government of the 2000's to dump as much petrol as possible on the growing economic bubble. No one has a fúcking clue what's going on, least of all the teachers, solictors, publicans and career politicians that sit in the Dail.

With that in mind might as well give the other crowd a go behind the wheel. Don't let anyone get too comfortable or arrogant. And the added benefit of seeing that pompous media whore Leo Varadkar on the oppostion benches would be almost reason enough to vote anyone but FG.

dxhound2005

Agricola wrote: »

Ill give FF a vote. Let's face it, theres nothing between them and FG. Anyone that thinks FG is the party of prudence and bean counting and is the only option for safeguarding "the recovery" is in cloud cuckoo land. They were goading the FF government of the 2000's to dump as much petrol as possible on the growing economic bubble. No one has a fúcking clue what's going on, least of all the teachers, solictors, publicans and career politicians that sit in the Dail.

With that in mind might as well give the other crowd a go behind the wheel. Don't let anyone get too comfortable or arrogant. And the added benefit of seeing that pompous media whore Leo Varadkar on the oppostion benches would be almost reason enough to vote anyone but FG.

Who would you want in coalition with them? Unless they go full Jack Lynch on us and promise to abolish property tax, water charges, bin charges and motor/road tax like they did in 1977 they won't get an outright majority?

Agricola

dxhound2005 wrote: »

Who would you want in coalition with them? Unless they go full Jack Lynch on us and promise to abolish property tax, water charges, bin charges and motor/road tax like they did in 1977 they won't get an outright majority?

Meh, tis fairly academic. Short of Sinn Fein becoming attractive all of a sudden it's same old same old. All coalition variations are going to result in similar policies. ie keep the growth going, keep people in jobs and keep the FDI sweet as a nut. Maybe the Greens will give them an excuse to do a tap about the environment/climate but it's all token stuff. All must bow at the altar of the €!

Better Than Christ

I'd vote for the Workers' Party, but they aren't running anyone in my constituency. If People Before Profit had a decent candidate, I'd vote for them, but they don't. I'll probably end up unenthusiastically voting for Sinn Féin.

Hamsterchops

Better Than Christ wrote: »

I'd vote for the Workers' Party, but they aren't running anyone in my constituency. If People Before Profit had a decent candidate, I'd vote for them, but they don't. I'll probably end up unenthusiastically voting for Sinn Féin.

Sinn Fein, is that the best you can do?

Drip drip allocations if bullying, infighting & ranker within the party, discontent + the obvious baggage from the recent past, and you'd vote for them

Couldn't imagine voting for that lot in my wildest dreams.

Better Than Christ

Hamsterchops wrote:

Couldn't imagine voting for that lot in my wildest dreams.

I couldn't give a fuck who you would or wouldn't vote for, to be honest.

Gretas Gonna Get Ya!

Definitely SF this time around...

Can't stand FG & FF. For all intents and purposes, they are both essentially the same party these days... they're arrogant and they don't really give a f*ck about the average person on the street. Voting either of them back in, is basically a vote for more of the same backwards policies and wasted opportunities!

Hamsterchops

Better Than Christ wrote: »

I couldn't give a fuck who you would or wouldn't vote for, to be honest.

Classy :rolleyes:
I've changed my mind, you should definitely vote for Sinn Fein. Your kind of people I guess.

dxhound2005

I think it's unique in the world that we can judge a party, Sinn Fein, both on their performance in government and in opposition. Their dismal record in the North would not give any confidence that they would be a good party for government here.

PhuckHugh

I'll be voting Sinn Fein - While the Party have a bit to learn still --- I simply could never in a million years vote FF/FG again --- FG are ideologically welded to this nonsense of a 'market' and have no regard for citizens needs or wants. They are ridiculously insensitive to the average citizen's daily struggles and continually prove this every time they open their mouths. That's not what a government is - they are about protecting those that have and have no regard for those that dont ---that leads to more crime, suffering, mental health issues and on and on and on. FF are almost the opposite --- they'll do anything for power - beg, borrow, steal and they dont care who suffers because of it. They can both have such a mindset because they know the Irish people will vote for them in their droves and they'll never be far off being in government - no matter what crimes or misdeeds they do.

It's tragic really.

You'll get the usual finger wagging about SF's past ---- but did we not sign up to the GFA agreement to move on? It seems we did when it suits, but as soon as SF look like they might get near power the GFA is rapidly disregarded and the boot is firmly put to their throats --- we dont mind them being in gov up north, but not down here iit seems - which is totally hypocritical. FF/FG have ignored the north for 100 years and abandoned our fellow Irish to Orange mobs and gerrymandering for generations .... let's not forget that FF/FG both have this blood on their hands also --- not to mention the crimes of the civil war, that have rarely been spoken about, are as bad as anything done on this Island. More recently FG covered up the DUB/MON bombings --- and let's not mention the aftermath of the last FF led crash.

I've seen reference her to SF as scum ---- it's laughable when you hold up FF/FG as a comparison --- they're the biggest scum bags in the country but because they are middle class they are given a pass --- an age old Irish tradition.

retalivity

Im voting for labour - due to the candidate herself (moynihan, dublin sc), not the party. My next prefs will be Inds, SD, Green. I would give a pref to SF if it was anyone but O'Snodaigh.
Not goving any prefs to FG, FF.

DavyD_83

Arghus wrote: »

It's tough to decide. Everyone is different degrees of useless

....

And the rest are the rest.

I'm starting to suspect Arghus may be me sneakily posting in my more articulate moments..
That post sums up my thoughts perfectly, but I've never bothered to think it through even that far.

nkl12xtw5goz70

EmmetSpiceland wrote: »

Does anyone know if Deirdre McMorrow is “running”? Really enjoyed her posters in the last one.

Her name is Denise, not Deirdre. But no, I don't believe she's running.

DavyD_83

Arghus wrote: »

In reality they'd squabble amongst themselves and almost nothing would get done.

Every day would be like an episode of the apprentice

Better Than Christ

Hamsterchops wrote: »

Classy :rolleyes:
I've changed my mind, you should definitely vote for Sinn Fein. Your kind of people I guess.

What part of "I couldn't give a fuck who you would or wouldn't vote for" did you not understand? I wouldn't dream of coming on here and berating someone for voting for a party that I don't like.

Hamsterchops

I didn't birrate you, I simply said in post #30...

'Sinn Fein, is that the best you can do"
I then listed their shortfalls as a party with infighting etc...

And then you come back with "I couldn't give a ****"

Classy.

How Soon Is Now

https://ireland.isidewith.com/political-quiz


So this place is telling me based on the questions i answered there 80% sure i should vote for Fianna Fail.


Mmmm i wonder....


I didnt think there was much difference in FF and FG these days but according the results on there i was wrong!

AudreyHepburn

I’ll vote Fine Gael as I always do. Contrary to popular belief they are not the root of all evil and most of not all of the problems with the health services and housing are not of their doing.

If you seriously believe that by voting in a whole new government these issues will disappear overnight you are at best very deluded.

Fianna Fáil I don’t trust and Sinn Fein I wouldn’t touch with a barge pole for obvious reasons.

The Rape of Lucretia

PhuckHugh wrote: »

You'll get the usual finger wagging about SF's past ---- but did we not sign up to the GFA agreement to move on?

Sure. We move on. But that is no reason to vote for people who are comfortable with murdering others and a party who has violence and terrorism as part of its ethos. Most people realise that SF are dispicable people, and that voting for them to be a step to low for anyone with respect for their own morality. That they are not out murdering today, doesnt change the character behind them.

Edgware

Better Than Christ wrote: »

I'd vote for the Workers' Party, but they aren't running anyone in my constituency. If People Before Profit had a decent candidate, I'd vote for them, but they don't. I'll probably end up unenthusiastically voting for Sinn Féin.

The highlight for me so far is the sickening head Mary Lou had on when she had to face up to having to apologise and suspend the gob****e who criticised Varadkar. In due course she will be asking herelf "what the **** am I doing with this shower?"

Church on Tuesday

Exactly no one.

Not that I can't be arsed, it's just nobody appeals to me.

Better Than Christ

Hamsterchops wrote: »

I didn't birrate you, I simply said in post #30...

'Sinn Fein, is that the best you can do"
I then listed their shortfalls as a party with infighting etc...

And then you come back with "I couldn't give a ****"

Classy.

That's democracy. Sometimes people vote for candidates or parties that you don't like. They all have their shortfalls - even whoever you're planning on voting for. When you grow up, you'll learn to quietly accept that.

Phoebas

An After Hours election poll and Sinn Fein isn't on 80%!

Is Boards broken?

MichaelKnee

Fine Gael for me. The only ones who even mention lowering taxes.

freshpopcorn

I'm voting for Mickey Joe Harte from Lifford!

Anyone but the Greens.

There’s an awful amount of votes for them here. People must not like seeing much of their wages.
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