Leinster vs. Lyon, Sunday 12th January, 13.00 (BT2)

Very inaccurate half from Leinster. Just a yard off the pace and need to tighten up now and play a pragmatic game for the next 20 minutes after half time. They can open up again for the final quarter but they need to put the game away and not let this turn into a battle.

clsmooth

PhlegmyMoses wrote: »

Weird game for Leinster. Could easily be 3 or 4 more tries to the good but look a bit ropey in defence.

Think defence has been a big concern this year. Playing some lovely stuff going forward but we seem to leaking a lot of points this year. I know sometimes it happens in games where we’re winning well such as Ulster and Northampton but we need to sort it.

PhlegmyMoses

mangobob wrote: »

Not to labour the point, but they dont "back down" because its not their job to "stand up" to the ref in the first place. Their job is simply to bring the evidence to the refs attention and he makes the final decision because he is the sole authority on the field. Its a pretty simple chain of command.

He said something weird for the McGrath try as well. "I will bring you irrefutable evidence that 9 was in front of the kicker". It's a weird way to position something to the ref imo

Neil3030

pickarooney wrote: »

Come off it. That's like if you want chicken and your wife tells you you're having fish and you pretended you never actually wanted chicken.

I might frame this as a great example of when argument from analogy wastes everyone's time.

hogandrew

Looked like Fardys left foot was in front of the ball when he picked it anyway?

Clegg

clsmooth wrote: »

Think defence has been a big concern this year. Playing some lovely stuff going forward but we seem to leaking a lot of points this year. I know sometimes it happens in games where we’re winning well such as Ulster and Northampton but we need to sort it.

We've been inconsistent in defence. Against Lyon and Munster away we shut them out completely. But against sides that wanted to throw the ball around we did the same and leaked some easy scores. Need to be better.

Neil3030

mangobob wrote: »

Not to labour the point, but they dont "back down" because its not their job to "stand up" to the ref in the first place. Their job is simply to bring the evidence to the refs attention and he makes the final decision because he is the sole authority on the field. Its a pretty simple chain of command.

And that chain of command was followed today, but with referee trusting the man analysing the clearer evidence to have made a correct call.

troyzer

clsmooth wrote: »

Think defence has been a big concern this year. Playing some lovely stuff going forward but we seem to leaking a lot of points this year. I know sometimes it happens in games where we’re winning well such as Ulster and Northampton but we need to sort it.

The Leinster defence has been unbelievably stingy this season with very few exceptions.

Dunney848

I think people are forgetting this is a top class Lyon side and they have been playing like it

yerrahbah

Are the mics picking up a strange noise?
On the phone so hard to tell

Clegg

Big fan of Larmour literally spinning in a circle yet still beating his man.

PhlegmyMoses

Ref gonna have to look at another card soon if they keep that up

clsmooth

Think Robbie Henshaw really needs to get his passing game going.

pickarooney

Neil3030 wrote: »

Haven't been to the RDS in a few years. Are they handing out multiple high resolution screens to fans, control over replays from multiple angles and the ability to shield crowd noise to aid concentration? Wow, serious advances in gameday experience there.

It's TMO, not CSI. If it can't be seen on a big screen with multiple replays it didn't happen. We can't have a man in a high castle carrying out molecular analysis and calling the shots when nobody else in the stadium can see what he apparently sees (which, moreover, was nothing, in this case;he called it on a hypothesis).

Clegg

Lyon have infringed a lot on their own line again.

ongarite

Cynical play again from Lyon.

Squidgy Black

Beaker gone to the bin, really need to score from here

PhlegmyMoses

Ryle Nugent saying that Lyon have been good on their own line. They have just consistently infringed imo, rather than any serious play.

Larbre34

Can't believe we haven't gone for the corner at some point in this phase, if we thinned them out with 14 we'd be done and dusted by now.

Dave_The_Sheep

Keep ****ing them in the scrum, see if Whitehouse has the balls to send off a second player.

Clegg

Squidgy Black wrote: »

Beaker gone to the bin, really need to score from here

Two scores I think.

Put the game to bed.

Neil3030

pickarooney wrote: »

It's TMO, not CSI. If it can't be seen on a big screen with multiple replays it didn't happen. We can't have a man in a high castle carrying out molecular analysis and calling the shots when nobody else in the stadium can see what he apparently sees (which, moreover, was nothing, in this case;he called it on a hypothesis).

At least you've moved on from bad analogy to bad straw man. The variety is appreciated. TMO has the best tools in the house to make the correct call (which was confirmed by former professionals at half time).

ongarite

They are killing the time on the clock, sin bin already 3 mins down with no play.

PhlegmyMoses

Deegan has been excellent today.

Clegg

Best Leinster player on the pitch. Just like last week.

ongarite

Fair play Deegan

Squidgy Black

Imagine a backrow of Doris at 6, Deegan at 7 and Conan at 8

PhlegmyMoses

These scrums have chewed up so much of the yellow card time.

PhlegmyMoses

Squidgy Black wrote: »

Imagine a backrow of Doris at 6, Deegan at 7 and Conan at 8

No VDF no party

Clegg

Squidgy Black wrote: »

Imagine a backrow of Doris at 6, Deegan at 7 and Conan at 8

Would be great to watch against the weaker sides. But VDF is the best 7 in the country and would also thrive playing alongside any of those lads.